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In the article, it states that "Irving's affairs caused his first marriage to end in divorce in 1981." - but there is no citation. I think this should be removed as per ]. ] (]) 21:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC) In the article, it states that "Irving's affairs caused his first marriage to end in divorce in 1981." - but there is no citation. I think this should be removed as per ]. ] (]) 21:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

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Is anyone interested in fixing up this article, or should it go to ]? ] (]) 02:56, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

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Early life 3,299 3,299
Student years 2,000 5,513
Carnival Times article 3,513 3,513
The Destruction of Dresden 5,470 6,073
1963 burglary of Irving's flat 603 603
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Revisionism 17 13,736
Hitler's War 4,701 4,701
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Ernst Zündel trial 8,336 8,336
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Date of order for extermination of Jews.

The statement that Hitler still advocated only the expulsion of the European Jews in December 1941 and only changed his mind to order the extermination of the Jews in 1942 is historically inaccurate and should be removed from an edited version of the text. I suggest that the following be inserted in the text as a replacement: "On July 31,1941, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer, Hermann Goering, signed an order authorizing Reinhard Heydrich, head of the the Reich's General Security Office (SD) to prepare a plan for the final solution" and "total solution" to the "Jewish Question." At a conference at a government-confiscated mansion in on Lake Wannsee January 1942, Heydrich. citing the Goering order of July 31 1941 as his authoritzation presided over a meeting of government officials from several departments of the Reich in which detailed plans were drawn up for the extermination of European Jewry, and tasks were assigned to several departments of the Reich to assist in achieving this objective. According to an entry in the Diary of Joseph Goebels, minister of enlightenment and propaganda,Hitler presided over a meeting of senior Nazi Party officials in which he announced that he had ordered the extermination of European Jews. This indicates that the Goering order of July 31, 1941 and the subsequent conference at Wannsee in January 1942 had Hitler's full approval." 2603:7000:CF00:1202:28FD:F1E1:5F4E:12BA (talk) 14:29, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Hitler's possible motives for not signing the July 31 "final solution" order and instead apparently delegating this task to his deputy Goering.

This following addition-revision of the text should be added after my previous suggested edit of the text concerning the date of Hitler's decision to authorize a "total solution" of the Jewish question. "No historian of any repute professes to know why hitler delegated the signing of the "final solution" and "total solution" order to his deputy Goering rather than signing it himself. We sugtgest that perhaps Hitler realized the criminal nature of the order, and felt more comfortable ordering his deputy to sign the order rather than doing so himself. 2603:7000:CF00:1202:28FD:F1E1:5F4E:12BA (talk) 14:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

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Requires n doord comma. 64.189.18.44 (talk) 15:22, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 16:40, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

uncited claim about divorce

In the article, it states that "Irving's affairs caused his first marriage to end in divorce in 1981." - but there is no citation. I think this should be removed as per WP:BLP. 45.178.73.82 (talk) 21:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are listed below:

  • At over 11,000 words, WP:TOOBIG suggests that it might be split up or summarised more effectively.
  • The article relies too much on block quotes: removing and summarising these will help reduce the article length.
  • There are many sources listed in the bibliography that are not used as inline citations: these should be considered for their inclusion or removed.
  • Some sections are too large and should be broken up with headings.

Is anyone interested in fixing up this article, or should it go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 02:56, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

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