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== Single Article == |
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Why do we have a single article for the island and the country? Islands that are shared by multiple countries, such as Hispaniola have their own separate article from the country, as do the Dominican Republic and the Republic of Haiti. And England and Scotland and Wales and Great Britain and the United Kingdom have their own separate articles, as well as Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and Northern Ireland. And conversely, countries with multiple islands have an article dedicated to the country and each of the islands, such as Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Java, Sumatra, Borneo, Mindanao, Luzon, Sulawesi, New Guinea, Japan, Honshu, Hokkaido, etc. But when it comes to Cuba or Puerto Rico or Jamaica or Madagascar the articles are condensed into a single article. The same goes for subnational jurisdictions as well, such as Hainan, Taiwan (disputed), Hawaii, Tasmania, etc. ] (]) 01:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:On a side note I could ask why older versions of current countries have their own articles, such as the Soviet Union or the Ottoman Empire have separate articles from the articles for Russia or Turkey, while current countries such as the People’s Republic of China or the Arab Republic of Egypt have the history of the entire region since ancient times. Or ask why the articles of those defunct countries have population data and other information which is frozen at the point at which they ended, the point being that Misplaced Pages could stand to be sorted out better than it is. But I won’t get sidetracked. ] (]) 01:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Schrodinger's executions == |
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In part about the Communist Revolution, article states "Castro's legalization of the Communist Party and the hundreds of executions of Batista agents, policemen, and soldiers that followed caused a deterioration in the relationship between the two countries.", |
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Note the word "hundreds", because the source cited neither is adequate in my opinion, but also does not state that, but anyways previously in article: |
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"official death sentences from 1959 to 1987 numbered 237 of which all but 21 were carried out.", |
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Now reasoning behind these can be interpreted to death but I am of the opinion one number should be chosen at least. Multiple sources, including direct numbers given by Che in his books but also many other put number of executions below 100, with those 21 being only concretely proven, and from what I know also official number given by Cuban government. ] (]) 12:19, 4 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2024 == |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2024 == |
Here it is mentioned that the statistic stems from 2008, which is good. But this statistic is kind of useless other then mentioning a previous condition. It missrepresents Cuba for the average reader. Cuba did not even make the list of this 2018 ranking for imprisoned journalists: https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2018/12/13/where-the-most-journalists-are-imprisoned-worldwide-infographic/?sh=1b693b336332
The situation of journalists in Cuba is still under scrutany, but for different reasons. For example HRC writes: Cuba has the “most restricted climate for the press in the Americas” according to a 2019 Committee to Protect Journalists report.
The section does not balance out the negatives with the positives, such as information about Cubans access to healthcare, free abortions and school etc. Accusations from 70 years ago are being represented as if they are currently being made (torture and executions)
1. Remove claims of torture and extrajudicial executions from the first sentence
2. Mention were all accusations come from and source it
3. Remove the part about sexual abuse of inmates
4. Update section to represent current conditions.
5. Extend the section about the media with more information and remove the part about imprisonment of journalists.