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Rollbacks don't count as edits?

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T382592
Open

Since I gotten rollback, I've noticed that every revert I did earlier counted as 2 edits (revert+warn) but now it counts as 1. Does it have something to do with rollback being used? If so, wouldn't not counting it provide an inaccurate edit count figure? Thanks! randomdude121‎‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 16:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi Randomdude121, where exactly are you checking the edit count? At Special:Preferences, meta:Special:CentralAuth/Randomdude121 or using an external tool? Because these edit counts will differ for many reasons, some of which are explainable and some of which seem pretty random. Rollback may actually make a difference, deleted contributions may too, page protections do to my knowledge, page moves are probably counted differently too. Everything else than a normal edit may end up being filtered by one or another tool or counting method. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

I usually check at Special:Contributions/Randomdude121. Just tried with another rollback and warn, the count still incremented by 1, making it 848 while it should have been 849. Perhaps it takes a few hours to count that edit because of its "special" nature? randomdude121‎‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 04:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

I'll test this now. 127,703 + this one. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

127,704 + this one, at Special:Preferences and Special:Contributions/ToBeFree. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:08, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

127,714 + this one, after 9 edits and one rollback. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Randomdude121, I've tried it in the sandbox with multiple rollbacks now and you're completely right. My edit count didn't increase. Rollbacks currently do not count towards the edit count at Special:Preferences, at the top of the contributions list or at CentralAuth. This used to be different, however, I'm pretty sure. Perhaps I'll find details about this change if there was one. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

It's a bug! A regression. It used to work and it's currently broken. See phab:T382592 for details. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! randomdude121‎‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 06:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Request for Assistance

You are an experienced administrator that I respect, @ToBeFree. If possible, I would value your contribution to the Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Palestinian political violence (3rd nomination). It would mean a lot to have your third-party, neutral, and experienced perspective. Firecat93 (talk) 19:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi Firecat93, this invitation is an honor I am very thankful for.

Merges are normally proposed using the process described at Misplaced Pages:Merging § Proposing a merge, and deletion nominations that don't argue for deletion may be closed as "speedy keep" (perhaps only proposing an alternative action such as moving or merging).

I have protected the deletion discussion (and the other one) to enforce the extended-confirmed restriction in this topic area, but I have no opinion on whether the articles should be merged or not, and if I had an opinion, I'd still prefer to avoid getting involved.

Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the information, @ToBeFree. I will be sure to properly follow the merger proposal process next time.

Best wishes, Firecat93 (talk) 00:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

Sennecaster

CheckUser changes

Worm That Turned

Ferret

Oversight changes

Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

Following an RFC, Misplaced Pages:Notability (species) was adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.

Technical news

The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration

Following the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: CaptainEek, Daniel, Elli, KrakatoaKatie, Liz, Primefac, ScottishFinnishRadish, Theleekycauldron, Worm That Turned.

Miscellaneous

A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2025 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Sign up here to participate!

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