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Birmingham the second city redux

Hi - You removed the {{fact}} tag from tne Birmingham article - I'm curious to know whether this is to avoid potential POV (e.g. it might lead to too many references to Birmingham being second city, where it may be a contentious issue), or you don't agree that the phrases "considered by some" or "widely considered" are weasel words. - Tiswas 10:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I refer you to the same, extensive, talk page debates referenced in my edit summary. Andy Mabbett 10:21, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Which, in all fairness, is not refering at all, merely brushing off. I have, of course, made the effort to read the Birmingham|discussion pages. There is limited discussion with regard the use of weasel words, other than echoing that either claims are to be verified or not included, in order to avoid weasel words. You appear to have made the reversion summarily - Tiswas 11:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

1) Please read WP:AGF. 2) "You appear to have made the reversion summarily" - Yes: "without delay". Andy Mabbett 12:54, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Good faith is assumed by default. I'm not sure that I understand your implication`. I'm merely seeking a more reasoned response for what appeared to be a perfunctory edit - Tiswas 13:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

"I'm not sure that I understand your implication" - you accused me of "brushing you off". My edit was considered, based on the discussions to which I once again refer you. Andy Mabbett 13:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

In which case, and to avoid any ambiguity or misunderstanding, feel free to point me to the specific section (or sections). As mentioned previously, I found nothing pertinent to the attachment of a {{fact}} tag. - Tiswas 14:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Not to worry - I've found the relevant section. - Tiswas 14:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Skin complaints?

The alterations you made to the Infobox UK station template don't appear correctly with my browser (IE6) and skin (classic). I don't get any coordinates at the top, they just appear twice at the same place (see Image:WP Screenshot - Infobox Uk Station.PNG). If I switch to monobook, however, it works. I've cleared my cache and purged the page, without success. I've recently added the code to my standard.css (the classic equivalent of monobook.css) to make co-ordiantes appear as d-m-s - could this have something to do with it? Any help or suggestions you could offer would be appreciated. – Tivedshambo (talk) 15:28, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

It does look to me like either a cache issue, or mis-applied CSS changes. Try reverting your CSS changes, then doing them again, from scratch. If that doesn't fix it, please replot it on the {{coord}} talk page. Andy Mabbett 15:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll ask for that to be fixed. Andy Mabbett 16:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:Main coordinates templates

The template has been unprotected by another sysop via RFPP, so now you and Docu can edit it on equal footing and I can go on to other things. The goal is to encourage everyone to compromise, not to enable an edit war, so please try to find a compromise everyone is willing to accept. CMummert 20:01, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I'd be happy to compromise; but it's difficult, when the other person won't even say why they're reverting edits or what they have against them. Andy Mabbett 20:31, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

My hope is that now that everyone involved has the ability to edit the page, this will encourage dialogue. Good luck. CMummert · talk 23:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

hCard on Infobox musical artist

Hi, saw that you added hCard marku to the template and want to use class="fn" and class="fn org" conditionally. One way to do this would be to create a template subpage. It itself will be a template with one parameter, the background color, and based on that, it would return either "fn" or "fn org".

For example, replace
<big class="fn">{{{Name}}}</big>
with
<big class="{{Template:Infobox musical artist/hCard Class|{{{Background|}}} }}">{{{Name}}}</big>

In the sub-page, use a switch to map the colors to either "fn" or "fn org" like
{{#switch: {{{1|}}}
| solo_singer = fn</nowiki>
| non_vocal_instrumentalist = fn
| non_performing_personnel = fn org
| group_or_band = fn org
| cover_band = fn
| classical_ensemble = fn org
| temporary = fn
| {{{1|fn}}}
}}
--soum (0_o) 07:42, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Bad Cat!

Hi - could I ask you to comment out or remove Category:UK railway maps from User:Pigsonthewing/scratchpad5 please. It is a user page appearring in an article category (see WP:CAT#User namespace and WP:CAT#Keep cats out of the sandbox. Many thanks. – Tivedshambo (talk) 09:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

It's not on that page. Andy Mabbett 10:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes it is - bottom line . I've taken the liberty of commenting it out for you - hope you don't mind! – Tivedshambo (talk) 10:33, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

OK - no prob. Andy Mabbett 10:37, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Regarding User:Lewisskinner

Hi Andy. Whilst I note your opinion that Lewisskinner has been uncivil towards you on a number of occasions, I'd suggest that highlighting this during discussions is not the best course of action. Instead, I feel it would be better to ignore any such issues and concentrate on the matter of discussion. If you feel that Lewisskinner's behaviour continues to be inappropriate then you should of course raise this through the appropriate channels which I'm sure your familar. Regards. Adambro 11:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Horace Alexander

We seem to be the only fans around ! Very interesting biography I presume. Unfortunately do not have access to much of the material. Perhaps you have access to the Oxford DNB . Cheers. Shyamal 12:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

You've got e-mail ;-) Andy Mabbett 12:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Do you have the Duncan J Wood book ? Shyamal 01:38, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes. It's a good read. Andy Mabbett 04:49, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I am sure it is. Unfortunately I dont think I can get my hands on it easily. Could you please check and let me know the summary of his contributions to Indian ornithology. Apparently there is a chapter on it. Thanks a ton. Shyamal 04:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do, but Amazon UK have it (despite what they say, it's not a hardback); and the publishers are on-line. Andy Mabbett 17:18, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Reversal

Please contribute to Template_talk:Infobox_Swiss_town before reversing. -- User:Docu

Template talk:Infobox musical artist

This is to confirm that I didn't knowingly make any deletion. If I did make one in the course of editing, it was completely unintentional. --Kleinzach 00:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Untested additions to often used template

Please discuss changes first, rather that adding untested additions to templates. Such changes may negatively affect many articles.

You may use Template:Infobox_Swiss_town/Test to debug your additions. -- User:Docu

• I haven't made nay "untested" additions to templates. Andy Mabbett 10:19, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

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TfD nomination of Template:AVFC-infobox

Template:AVFC-infobox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Qwghlm 08:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Please don't

Your suggestion that the Comic opera and Opéra comique articles be merged is exceptionally unhelpful. Opéra comique is a specific genre of French opera and it is important not to confuse it with comic opera. As the (somewhat inadequate) article itself says: "Associated with the Paris theatre of the same name, it is, despite its name, not necessarily comic or light in nature." --Folantin 13:35, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

RE Coldspot

Yeah, that was a particularly tricky AfD closure - the Delete !voters had a stronger argument, but they were numerically outnumbered by Keeps, and I felt I couldn't close according to my own opinion. At the time I wasn't aware of the sockpuppetry. Unfortunately, procedure doesn't let me reverse my decision - what I would suggest is that you take it to WP:DRV, and I will add a note supporting deletion. Walton 08:24, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Reversals

Please participate in working out a solution at Template:Infobox Swiss town/Test or Template talk:Infobox Swiss town#Font problems. -- User:Docu

Birth and death

Hi Andy,

Just run first test on Afrika Bambaataa, birth only atm, looks OK. There are a lot of articles.... <grin> Rich Farmbrough, 19:18 5 May 2007 (GMT).

Ok I'm not happy that {{birth date}} displays a leading zero, though, see Hagigat Rzayeva. Rich Farmbrough, 20:16 5 May 2007 (GMT).

"My bad." I should suppress the zero, the template re-adds it for the ISO function. Rich Farmbrough, 20:40 5 May 2007 (GMT).

Help to work out a new version

Pigsonthewing, please contribute to Template_talk:Infobox_Swiss_town#Vcard to work out a new version. -- User:Docu

RL delayed answer

Ping here, apologies on the delay -- interesting btw! // FrankB 17:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

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Category:Articles needing coordinates from May 2007

Andy, do you know how articles listed in this category are being categorised? I cannot fathom how the category is being attached to the article - presumably some sort of esoteric template-fu. Reason I ask is that I'm concerned that we should be boxing a little cleverer in categorising articles needing co-ordinates. Specifically, I've been going through the April 2007 list picking off UK locations. All well & good, but my heart sink at the thought of wading through hundreds of Indian location (I know damn all about the place) looking for UK locations which I might add a coordinate to. The - to me - sensible solution is to categorise articles needing coords by their geolocation, so giving us a list of UK locations needing coords, Indian locations needing coords, &c. As I cannot work out how the current category is being generated, I'm at a loss to further my suggestion by discussing my concerns with whoever is causing the articles to end up in the cat. Any help / pointers you can give would be much appreciated. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk)

Articles are added to that category by {{LocateMe}}, {{LocateMeLong}} and {{LocateMeText}}; and were being added by {{Infobox Indian Jurisdiction}}. I've now created Category:Articles on India needing coordinates from May 2007 et seq, for use by the latter. Andy Mabbett 07:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Excellent; thanks. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Checkuser case completed

Hi, A checkuser IP Check case you filled has been completed by a CheckUser, and archived. You can find the results for 7 days at Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/IP check/Archive. -- lucasbfr , checkuser clerk, 20:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC).

BT Tower

That was a genuine mistake by me, though, coincidentally, the Skyscrapernews.com link does state the number of floors as five. - Erebus555 15:49, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Terrorists

I see you're a bird watcher, you definitely have the social skills of one. Be careful in your bird huts, they might be boobytrapped one day. All our love, the IRA. 81.102.236.73 21:24, 12 May 2007 (UTC)