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JoeM, if you'd like to start contributing again, please email me at jwales@bomis.com. Probably best to put 'wikipedia' in the subject line,
so I'll be sure to see it.

One thing about a lot of the comments that you've made here that struck
me is your opposition to leftist ideas, and the idea that Misplaced Pages is
controlled by leftists. But the founder of Misplaced Pages (me) is not by any
stretch of the mind leftist politically, philosophically or otherwise!
Indeed, if you toned it down a touch, I'm sure that you and I would have
rather a great deal of political ground in common.

What I'd like for you to consider is that the problems you've had here stem
more from your style than anything else.

Many years ago, when I was an Undergraduate and a huge fan of Ayn Rand, I went to the philosopher Tibor Machan (also known as a fan of Rand) for advice. He told me something that stuck with me to this day: Don't write like Ayn Rand. Write in such a way that what you say is unassailable, and you'll be fine.

Misplaced Pages especially demands of us that skill. We all come from very different political and philosophical perspectives, so it's important to write in a non-partisan fashion, a non-polemical fashion.

Here's the thing -- write the facts and let the reader draw the conclusions.
Don't draw moral conclusions in articles. Don't pull attention-getting stunts like putting the 9/11 photo on the Islam page.

I'm not a conservative, exactly, although I'm sure a lot of people on the left
would see me that way. But I do agree with conservatives in the value of a classical education. Think of the value of Misplaced Pages in that mindset -- it's an
encyclopedia, not a political tract, but if people genuinely study to obtain real knowledge, in-depth knowledge, then we can all rest assured that we will stand the best chance of ultimately coming to the right political conclusions.

It's really important to have fire-brand young College Republicans helping out here, just as it's really important to have fire-brand young communists working here, but ONLY so long as they agree to set aside differences in order to lay out the facts, not the moral or political conclusions.

Anyhow, email me, and let's chat some more, if you're interested. Otherwise, I'm afraid I'm just going to have to say: go away. If you respect private property, and I guess you do given your support for capitalism, you'll respect my wishes here.

All the best,

] 19:54, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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GOD BLESS OUR FREEDOM FIGHTING TROOPS DEFEATING ARAB TERRORISM IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.

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DEFEAT totalitarian Islamofascism


Our commander in chief liberated Iraq and Afganistan. But there's much left to TAKE OUT. These are the regimes that we need to take out sooner or later:

Most urgent:

Iran, Syria, Red China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Liberia, Laos, Lebanon, Vietnam, Libya, Zimbabwe, Burma, Malaysia, Belarus, Venezuela, Moldova (elected an actual Communist Party member) Palestinian Authority

Less urgent, but necessary one day:

Brazil (elected a Communist), Ecuador (elected a Communist), Argentina (elected a Communist sympathizer), Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Pakistan (the military dictator they have is ok to keep a lid on the Islamists, but he'll fall one day so we might as well occupy them), Qatar (Al Jazeria is based there spewing its anti-American propaganda), Tunisia, and every other country that is not a democracy or is a democracy that elects anti-democratic leftists like Hugo Chavez

Countries we should destabilize, but not necessarily prusue regime change through military means:

France, Germany, Belgium, Canada, Mexico, South Africa, Turkey, Russia, Sweden, and more...

Countries WHERE FREEDOM RINGS

AMERICA (NUMBER ONE ON THIS ACCOUNT), UK, Australia, Israel, Italy , Spain, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Czech Republic, and more...

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Above: me at a pro-Iraq War rally supporting our troops.


COLLEGE REPUBLICANS MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!

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DO YOUR PART AMERICA: BOYCOTT FRENCH GOODS.

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Evil exists. And militant Islamism (the militant Islamism of bin Laden, the Saudis, Saddam Hussein, the Baathists, and the Palestinian suicide bombers) or Islamofascism is the enemy of freedom and the distilled essence of evil. Totalitarian ideologies and fanaticisms have come in gone and have been defeated by America. All these ideologies are one in the same. They hate modernity, hate America, hate freedom, hate capitalism, hate liberal democracy, and love terrorism, oppression, genoicide, and fanatic hatred. In Germany the tyranical enemies of freedom and capitalism rallied behind Nazism, in Italy they rallied behind fascism, in Russia they rallied behind totalitarian socialism and communism, and now in the Middle East, where a lot of dictators and tyrants are threatened by freedom and American values, they rally behind militant Islamics. It is fact that there isnt a single Arab democracy. Muslim leaders (Saddam was just the worst of the lot. There will be more dictators/terrorists to fight like the Syrians) are all tyrants and terrorists who stifle the free press, kill their own people, crush their citizens hopes and dreams, and want to kill Americans like they did on 9/11. Their desire to kill Americans and supprot terror rests on one deep, abiding hatred: their irrational fear of America, which sticks up for freedom and opposes their tyranny with great scarafices, like America is doing right now defeating evil in the Arab countries of Iraq and Afghnaistan.

The ideology of militant Islamist terrorism is the totalitarian enemy that America confronts today. And patriotic Americans say it will be defeated like America defeated totalitarianisms in the past through heroic struggle: Communism, fascism, Nazism.

A lot of conservative commentators who speak with moral clarity call America's struggle against the evil of Islamofascist totalitarianism right now World War IV. That this is freedom's fourth struggle against a totalitarian evil. In WWI it was the despotic rule of the Kaiser, in WWII it was the Nazis, in freedom's third struggle it was the communists in the Cold War (although it wasnt a "hot war" it was another global stuggle like a world war). Now America's forth stuggle is a worldwide campaign against states like Iraq that hate the free world, kill their own people, desire weapons of mass destruction, and support terrorism.

The antiwar liberal left appeases totalitarian evil, which they love to do. They rallied to defend the Communists in Vietnam. Now the amoral liberal left is opposing America's commander in chief George W Bush in his struggle in Iraq. Hundreds of millions were slaughtered (Communism murdered 100 million people while the liberals opposed the Cold War at every step) and Communism threatened the freedom of America and her allies. Conservatives say that America must stop this new totalitarian enemy before its murderous hate claims as many victims as Communism.

Common sense articles written by JoeM and censored:

Read: User:JoeM/on Al Gore

Read: User:JoeM/on homelessness

User Contributions

JoeM, if you'd like to start contributing again, please email me at jwales@bomis.com. Probably best to put 'wikipedia' in the subject line, so I'll be sure to see it.

One thing about a lot of the comments that you've made here that struck me is your opposition to leftist ideas, and the idea that Misplaced Pages is controlled by leftists. But the founder of Misplaced Pages (me) is not by any stretch of the mind leftist politically, philosophically or otherwise! Indeed, if you toned it down a touch, I'm sure that you and I would have rather a great deal of political ground in common.

What I'd like for you to consider is that the problems you've had here stem more from your style than anything else.

Many years ago, when I was an Undergraduate and a huge fan of Ayn Rand, I went to the philosopher Tibor Machan (also known as a fan of Rand) for advice. He told me something that stuck with me to this day: Don't write like Ayn Rand. Write in such a way that what you say is unassailable, and you'll be fine.

Misplaced Pages especially demands of us that skill. We all come from very different political and philosophical perspectives, so it's important to write in a non-partisan fashion, a non-polemical fashion.

Here's the thing -- write the facts and let the reader draw the conclusions. Don't draw moral conclusions in articles. Don't pull attention-getting stunts like putting the 9/11 photo on the Islam page.

I'm not a conservative, exactly, although I'm sure a lot of people on the left would see me that way. But I do agree with conservatives in the value of a classical education. Think of the value of Misplaced Pages in that mindset -- it's an encyclopedia, not a political tract, but if people genuinely study to obtain real knowledge, in-depth knowledge, then we can all rest assured that we will stand the best chance of ultimately coming to the right political conclusions.

It's really important to have fire-brand young College Republicans helping out here, just as it's really important to have fire-brand young communists working here, but ONLY so long as they agree to set aside differences in order to lay out the facts, not the moral or political conclusions.

Anyhow, email me, and let's chat some more, if you're interested. Otherwise, I'm afraid I'm just going to have to say: go away. If you respect private property, and I guess you do given your support for capitalism, you'll respect my wishes here.

All the best,

68.200.9.222 19:54, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC)