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June 2

Exceptions to categories added by templates

I have a template that has a category in it. For example, a Template:Edit that is applied to pages that need to be edited in some way might include a "Category:Pages to be edited". So every page that includes that template is part of that category. That's good in almost all cases. But then I want to have a guidelines page that describes how the template is used. On that guidelines page I would like to have an instance of the template appear. But then my guidelines page will be categorized as "Pages to be edited", when there is nothing wrong with it.

Is there a way on my guidelines page to tell the wiki to exclude that page from the category, even though it includes a template that automatically puts that page in that category? -- Llarq 00:19, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

One way would be to add an optional input value to the parameter to the template, for example you might call it: nocat, along with template code that would conditionally exclude the category link if nocat has some value. See: m:ParserFunctions##if:. I don't know if that is the best or only way. --Teratornis 11:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

That did the trick, and gave me the opportunity for an enjoyable excursion into the world of parser functions. Thanks for the tip, Teratornis! -- Llarq 22:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Deleteing Account

How can i delete my wekepidia account?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rorx14 (talk • contribs) 00:33, June 2, 2007

You can't. -- Kesh 00:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

See also Misplaced Pages:Right to vanish. The only registered edit by your account was asking that question. PrimeHunter 00:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Deleted history

Could someone take a look at the Rabbit calicivirus history and tell me how to fix this? The article rabbit calicivirus had existed for some time, and today I see some changes in it on my watchlist. To my surprise, I see the history only goes back a few hours, due to some odd moves. Looking at Rabbit Green, an unrelated topic, the history of rabbit calicivirus is there instead (prior to June 1). I can guess what happened (rabbit calicivirus moved to rabbit green, via a different redirect, Green Rabbit Syndrome, at which point the editor realizes they made a mistake, and cuts and pastes the material back to rabbit calicivirus over the redirect), but I have no idea how to merge the page histories back together. Thanks. --Joelmills 01:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I already removed the redirect from Talk:Rabbit calicivirus and replaced a project tag that had been there. Hope I didn't make this more complicqated. --Joelmills 01:48, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, don't touch anything else :) Here is where the article changes, correct? Prodego 01:50, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, should be good now. Prodego 02:02, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, that fixes the rabbit calicivirus history. I see that you also deleted Rabbit Green, which is not a problem for me, but it doesn't need to redirect to rabbit calicivirus either, as it has no relation to it. Thanks again, I really appreciate it. --Joelmills 02:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Photos uploading blank

I've tried several times to upload a photo at Image:M1887 Shotgun.JPG, but I can't see any visible image after doing so, nor is the image showing up when linked elsewhere on WP. I'm using Firefox 2.0 with all the latest updates, if that helps. Anyone know what's going on?--Commander Zulu 02:05, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I can see it using the same browser. Try purging your cache and/or restarting your browser. --YFB ¿ 02:12, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Tried that, still no luck. The image isn't visible in Internet Explorer, either. --Commander Zulu 02:24, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

That's weird. I can still see it and it shows up, at the image page and in the article, in Internet Exploder as well. Have you tried clearing your browser cache/temporary internet files? If they've got a dead image stuck in there, they may not be loading the new version. Otherwise, I'm out of ideas... sorry. --YFB ¿ 02:49, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I uploaded the image using a different filename, and now its working just fine. I'll have to get the non-working image deleted now, in the interests of not cluttering up the server. Thanks very much for your help, though! --Commander Zulu 02:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

My User Page

I have a warning on my User Page from something I didn't do. Should I be worried? Please help. --69.134.117.202 02:18, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

That isn't your user page. That is a page for the IP address you are currently using. Create an account and you will have your own user page and you won't have to deal with anonymous IP problems anymore. --Kainaw 02:20, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

If another user had the same IP address as you now do (and most ISPs change IP addresses pretty often) you may well get msgs intended for that user. The best solution is to register and use an account. DES 02:20, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Triple braces

I know that putting a word or phrase into {{double braces}} indicates a template, but what do {{{triple braces}}} do? Hallpriest9 (Talk | Archive) 03:26, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

{{{nothing}}} Dismas| 03:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, we use it for parameters in templates. See and the various triple braces being thrown around. x42bn6 Talk Mess 04:00, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

School being Slandered on Misplaced Pages

An anonymous user keeps writing slanderous, and entirely unreferenced content in the article on my school National Academy For Learning. Marking the article as biased, or NPOV, and even nominating it for deletion simply results in the anonymous IP removing the tags, with no mention whatsoever in the discussion page.

The entire article is poorly written, and offers little to no actual content. It has a heavy bias, and this is just a small excerpt: 'It has been the experience of a few parents during the years 2002-05 that such new-age remedies for little children was being administered under an earlier Principal Mrs. Benjamin and an incompetent kindergarten teacher (IMHO).'

I would like to re-nominate the article for deletion, but I don't believe I am permitted to do the same. Please advise Tdinkar 03:28, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism and POV edits are no reason to delete an entire article. If we did that then every article would be gone by now. Please see Misplaced Pages:Vandalism for information on dealing with vandalism. This will probably lead you to WP:REVERT which has information on how to revert an article back to the "good" version before the vandalism was posted. Also see, WP:BLOCK for info on what you can do to get anonymous IP vandals blocked. Dismas| 03:42, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I've removed a lot of the obvious junk, but not knowing anything about the school I don't want to proceed further, so I've left the {{cleanup}} tag there to alert readers and editors of problems (it's still quite badly written). I'm not sure whether there is a rule about whether you can re-nominate an article for deletion, so if you want to re-nominate it, I think you can go ahead. (If you do, I suggest the best process to follow in this case is Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion.) However, my opinion is that the article should stay as the school appears notable and that's all that should be considered. Also, blocking anonymous users and continual reversions won't help in the case of a persistent, dedicated vandal/POV pusher; instead, semi-protection may be the best course. --A bit iffy 09:33, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I have had the same problem with my school article. Wiki.user 20:13, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I suspect this would be less of a problem if school attendance was voluntary rather than compulsory. As it stands, there seem to be many disgruntled students out there, and they constitute a vast reservoir of potential Misplaced Pages vandals, particularly as it only takes one disgruntled student at a given school to discover Misplaced Pages and then alert all his peers (I assume most of these school article vandals are male, but I have no data). There is even a {{Schoolblock}} template for use when vandalizing a particular school article becomes a fad. Naturally, school article vandals share the general vandal preference for editing without creating accounts. --Teratornis 23:54, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Font Issue

I recently removed some system fonts from my system using Adobe Type Manager. I reinstalled them again but now I am having a problem. The wikipedia website must use a font that IE cannot find. The type is so ugly I don't want to visit wikipedia until it is fixed. To see what I am talking about look here.

If you know how to fix this please post to my talk page or here.

Thank you! Joneboi 03:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages specifies the CSS 'sans-serif' default font, which is easily configurable to whatever font you like in Firefox or Opera, but not in Internet Explorer. It seems to be a well-hidden variable (its not even in the registry), but it's one that IE has changed automatically -- because you deleted Arial, the default -- but has not changed back when you restored Arial. Thus, the way for us to proceed is to delete the new font it has latched on to (which appears to be Agency FB), which will hopefully make IE search around for another one and snap back to its default, Arial. So follow these steps:

• Close Internet Explorer
• Open 'Control Panel' -> 'Fonts'
• Double-check that Arial is installed
• Find and delete the Agency FB font
• Open Internet Explorer.

Hopefully, that should have fixed it. If not, please contact me at my talk page. Thanks! -- Simxp 04:43, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Pro vs. Contra

Does anyone know where I can find the templates for pro and contra when used on a discussion page debating whether an article should be added and such? — Supuhstar * —

I am not familiar with these templates, but you can find a lot of templates on WP:TEMPLATE or the pages linked therefrom. --Teratornis 10:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Didn't help — Supuhstar * —

Security Firewall

What are the types of Security Firewall? What is the purpose and configuration setting for FORITNET Security Firewall?

This question belongs at the Misplaced Pages:Reference_desk desk. Specifically in the computers section. The help page is only for the editing of Misplaced Pages. -- _Hdt83 05:07, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Technical Help

Sorry, but I do not know if you could help me. I have to develop a webpage for a Newspaper and it is my first experience with it. I'd like to know which is the best way to develop the page so the users do not to duplicate efforts re-typing the data twice. It is, they have a software to edit the News and I want to take the information from the generated file and uploade to a dynamic web page. So how can I develop that dynamic page so they can do their job that way.

Again, if I am out of context with my question please I apolozige. But if some one can help me out I would appreciate it.

Best Regards,

Radhames Lopez

You can try CuteNews which is a PHP-based news system for most websites. As for the other things, you can also most likely use the same software that Misplaced Pages uses, called MediaWiki. E 05:50, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Data conversion between incompatible application programs is often a nightmare, and MediaWiki is incompatible with almost everything else. Your options depend on the capability of the "software to edit the News" you mention in your question. What is the name of that software? What file formats can it write? Do other users of that software publish their news on Web sites? If so, you could ask some of those other users how they do it. --Teratornis 11:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Table help

I'm working on the Appalachian State Mountaineers page and using tables for the records for teams (football, basketball). The table is the sort that should be hidden with the tab that says "show" on the side. However, on mine it is always open (showing) when I browse to the page. I copied the table info from the North Carolina Tar Heels page. On that page the Season-by-season records box is always closed. Can someone browse over there and see what's preventing mine from starting closed? It's driving me crazy. Thanks =) Geologik 05:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Take a look at this guide to tables here: Collapsible tables guide. The specific section dealing with your problem is here: Misplaced Pages:NavFrame#NavFrame_divs. Hope this helps! -- _Hdt83 07:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I tried fixing it but it still dosen't hide. Could another editor try fixing it? -- _Hdt83 07:20, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I think that you need 3 of those tables there for the show/hide to work.--User:Rock2e 20:34, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Sharing Maps

Hi, I copied the map for Cranbrook, British Columbia onto the Fort Steele, British Columbia article, (which didn't have a map at all), as the two towns are only ten miles apart. But do the coordinates or anything else need to be changed?CindyBo 08:50, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the coordinates are different and will need to be changed. You can leave a note on the talk page and let someone else do it that is more capable of recording accurate coordinates. In regard to the map, you might want to request for it (the original author is Qyd). Hope that helps. E 10:33, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Changing the notification message for messaging bar for MediaWiki?

Hi, I was wondering if there was a MediaWiki:(link) that allows you to change the message being displayed when a new message is posted on an talk page? I am running MediWiki on my [rivate server and was wondering if you had any ideas?

P.S: Misplaced Pages's messaging system (orange u have new messages) bar isn't working. Just to let you know, is it disabled?

For the changing of the 'new messages' message, it would be at MediaWiki:Youhavenewmessages. And, there is no current errors with the message bar, it seems to be working for everyone else. E 10:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

No, it is not working for anons, this has been known for some time, but there is no fix yet. If you want to change colors, use Mediawiki:Common.js and add .usermessage { <attribute changes> }. Prodego 18:56, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk pages

I have no idea on what to call the question thing, but what I'm trying to get it the signature, on how to make an extra part that links to the talk page right beside your username. I've been having a look around, but so far, I can't seem to find anything on it at all. Captain Drake Van Hellsing 10:11, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

You may want to use the special 'title' template for that. The required template for your username would be {{User:1ne/Title|User:Drakehellman (])}} - try that and see if it works. E 10:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

So far, it still comes up with the whole thing being linked to my userpage, no matter what I seem to enter in the raw signature area, unless of course, that's not suppose to be where it goes....but so far, I don't know of any other areas where it goes... Captain Drake Van Hellsing 10:53, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh your after a signature extension! Simply replace the whole signature box with

] <sup>(])</sup>

and the signature will appear as this: Captain Drake Van Hellsing 10:53, 2 June 2007 (UTC). E 10:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

That's real odd, as when I put that into the signature box, it turns out like this: ])</sup>]] 11:06, 2 June 2007 (UTC) Am I doing it right at all? Or is there something that's missing from there? Captain Drake Van Hellsing 11:07, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Wait, never mind, I figured it out, stupid check box...but thank you for the help regardless ^^ Captain Drake Van Hellsing 11:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

No problem, nice signature :) E 11:15, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, though there is one small problem I've been seeing if I can it right, but it's proving to be a pain, is changing the colour of the links, so to speak, you know, so that, say, one word is orange, one is yellow, ect, ect. Not sure if this is right here or not:

] ]</span>]]

And that gave me this: Captain Drake Van Hellsing ] any advice for that sort of thing? Captain Drake Van Hellsing 11:24, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, I got it ^^ Captain Drake Van Hellsing Savvy? 11:50, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

How do I find your prize winning pictures?

I looked at some earlier but can not get back to them.

Wikimedia Commons, a Misplaced Pages sister project, has over 1.5 million freely reusable media files. You may also want to look at the Picture of the Year contest or the Picture of the Day for some of the best images on the Commons. E 10:41, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Also see: Misplaced Pages:Featured pictures. --Teratornis 10:42, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Sign in woes

When I successfully sign in, then return to the page I want to edit, I again get the "Sign in/create account" link at the top of the page.

That sounds weird. Have you tried bypassing your cache? Please see Help:Logging in for some probable reasons and solutions to this matter. I hope this helps. Peacent 14:46, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Articles Written for Specialists vs. Those Written for a General Readership

Perhaps this is a philosophical question about the nature and intended audience of Misplaced Pages. Maybe it is easier first to explain the context. I am an IT professional in my mid-50s who is currently undergoing cataract surgery, so one of the reference points that I used in the searching around this condition is of course Misplaced Pages. There are a bunch of ophthalmology articles including one on cataracts and one cataract surgery within Misplaced Pages. These are good articles, but my concern here is that they were written by ophthalmic specialists for ophthalmic specialists using a concept framework and a vocabulary that they understand, but that the typical reader (who will be a lay cataract sufferer) will find it like a reading treacle pudding. What this readership needs is an article written in some form of plain English. I developed an example of this for cataract surgery in my | sandbox. If you look at this you will see that there is some overlap with the existing cataract surgery article, yet it is also in many respects quite different:

• I have used common English terminology of the everyday English reader would understand (for example "shortsighted" instead of "myopic" -- after all, that's all that myopic means when you translate it from Latin into English).
• I have cut descriptions down to the minimum that a typical reader who is a cataract sufferer needs to know, and have linked back to the technical article for those who want to know more.
• I have posed and answered a number of questions that those facing this procedure would genuinely want to know, but don't really seem of interest to those writing the article.

I am not asking for a critique of the article as it still only a work in progress. What I am asking about is the principles that Misplaced Pages applies in such circumstances:

• Does Misplaced Pages see its role as being a somewhat erudite encyclopaedia, or a valuable knowledgebase for the wider community? Or both?
• When there are two audience community's who are interested about a single topic, is the correct thing to do to have interlinked but variant articles "talking to" each of those communities?
• Or is the desired goal somehow to address both audiences within a single article? And if this is the case, how do we balance the governance in developing the article?

TerryE 11:44, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I have thought about related issues. I think the way that this is dealt within most commonly is to write a good lead section that covers the main points in a manner that could be understood by a "smart forth or fifth grader"; for many readers they can get all the info they want from this lead section; those that desire more depth can read further. I think I understand that what you are describing is subtly different from this - in your situation I think you are a layman in the field of ophthalmology, who was actually interested in the depth of the subject, but found that the more in-depth parts of the article weren't written in the best way to help you understand. I agree that this is problematic. I don't know the answer, but I suggest that textbooks are more suited for this that encyclopedias. Textbooks are designed to introduce new material in an order so that topics are presented only after the necessary background info has been taught; encyclopedias are designed for providing less structured, random-access knowledge. I would be interested in your further thoughts on this subject (do we need to move this to a different page? It's not really a help desk topic) ike9898 14:41, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it's for a general audience, although for confusing topics, there might end up being the case of General relativity and Introduction to general relativity. x42bn6 Talk Mess 15:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Ike9898, I agree that this may not be a helpdesk topic, but one more of editorial governance. However I am not yet a power Misplaced Pages contributor, so I leave it to you to suggest location. You are close in your analysis, but my primary concern wasn't so much about me understanding the content of the current pages but more about their utility to a general readership. For every ophthalmologist or other medical professional who looks at these pages, there will be hundreds or perhaps thousands of lay people (usually cataract sufferers or relatives of the same) who do so. I think that accessability to 99% of the readership is a valid concern, yet this concern shouldn't compromise the existing work. Picking up x42bn6's example, one way to address this would be to have to link pages -- one called "cataract surgery" and the other called "cataract surgery from the patient's perspective", much as the two views of General Relativity. I will raise the subject on a talk page of the original article to see how it's contributors feel here. TerryE 15:39, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Another route (that I am not necessarily advocating) is to create a parallel encyclopedia, with articles crafted to be more appropriate to someone new to the subject. A precendent for setting up a parallel project like this is the 'Simple English' Misplaced Pages; in this case the parallel project is aimed towards readers with only rudimentary skills in English language.

I think the way Misplaced Pages articles are written causes them to become simulateously more technically correct and less accessable over time. Maybe the process for writing layman-oriented articles could be modified somehow to discourage this.

The biggest problem I see is maintaining quality when the development of an article forks into multiple articles on the same subject. ike9898 22:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Someday, computers will be smart enough to tailor content to their users, but that will probably require something like Strong AI so don't hold your breath. In the meantime, I like the idea of writing separate versions of articles for experts and laymen. However, I should add that often the main barrier to understanding expert-level writing is the specialized vocabulary, and appropriate use of links can go a long way to addressing that. For example, in the example given above, at least the first instance (and possibly any widely-separated instances) of a jargon term like myopic should link to its defining article. Misplaced Pages itself has articles for many jargon terms; other sources such as Wiktionary and various technical dictionaries can fill in most of the remainder. (Granted, in articles about higher mathematics, merely adding links to terms such as group, field, tensor and so on won't help the layman much, given that the linked-to articles are likely to be as opaque as the article that linked to them. But in medicine, at least most of the jargon is about reasonably tangible things, or things which are not far removed from reasonably tangible things, such as the patient's own physical sensations.)

I have found while reading some articles on various technical topics such as computer science and web mapping that often the newer ones feature a high density of jargon with way too few links on the jargon terms. It's an interesting exercise to hunt down defining articles for all the terms likely to confuse the nonspecialist and add the links. By looking up the defining articles, I can verify that the article I'm editing is using correct terminology (or at least the terminology that can be linked on Misplaced Pages). Sometimes various practitioners in a field will use different technical dialects, or use slightly different word forms. If it's hard for me to look up the most definitive article for a jargon term when I know something about the subject, it would probably be prohibitive for someone with no background at all.

Thus I would suggest to TerryE that while you are preparing simplified versions of abstruse technical articles, also examine the technical articles to insure that at least the first instances of any jargon terms unlikely to be familiar to the nonspecialist link to defining articles. While it may not be ideal for the reader to have to click a few dozen links to get through a technical article, at least that method works, and often by reading at least the introductions in the linked articles, the reader gains useful background that would not fit into the primary article.

Any way you slice it, however, this is an encyclopedia. When I was a child, the fact that I liked to read encyclopedias (much like the Great Leader, it turns out, and we even read the same brand) set me apart from many of my peers. The popular view seemed to be that encyclopedias were never meant for popular consumption, but only to be reluctantly consulted under duress, for example to complete a personally irrelevant school assignment. As Albert Einstein said, "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." --Teratornis 22:29, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Teratornis, I agree with your analysis and points. If you have a quick look at my draft cataract surgery article then you will see that I have already anticipated many of them. Like Ike9898, I have very mixed views on whether this issue will be best served by a fork or by making the original more accessible. I also think that articles can be overworked in terms of technical detail and in the process of doing so lose their overall coherence. Maybe we should have a rule of thumb: spring clean every 50 edits.

I work as an IT professional and often write detailed working papers for senior execs and customers, and I have a rule: never use jargon where it adds no value over plain English.

As I said above, I will discuss my concerns with the authors of the current article and see if we can reach a consensus (and my draft will remain in my sandbox). By the way Professor Einstein was paraphrasing the famous razor of a countryman of mine William of Ockham :-P

Thanks again guys/gals TerryE 01:14, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Categories (lack of Preview)

Why is it that a Category tag cannot be previewed (to check a category exists) without saving the page, unlike main article content? Gaz (talk?) 12:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean? When previewing a page, the categories are shown at the bottom of the window. PrimeHunter 13:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

It is easy to miss. When you are previewing the changes, the categories don't appear where you might expect them at first. Scroll all the way down and you'll see them. ike9898 14:29, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I found them now, thanks a lot. Annoying for checking edits, but at least I know they're there now. Thanks again, Gaz (talk?)

tag for an article that needs an image

It there a tag that can be added to articles to indicate that the article is special need of an image or illustration? ike9898 14:27, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you can add {{tl|image}} on to the article talk page and then it will be brought to the attention of Wikipedians and an image may or may not be added. Regards --The Sunshine Man 14:42, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

How do I modify the main title of my article? I only want to change the case of one letter.

I was creating the article 'Active seating' but I wanted both words to begin with capitals as such 'Active Seating'.

Please let me know if I can modify the title, or delete the article and start over? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ergo360 (talk • contribs).

You can move the page to its new location (see the move tab up there?). Note that only accounts that are older than 4 days can move pages. Though I would suggest you redirect the page to Active Sitting instead, because they have the same meaning. x42bn6 Talk Mess 15:07, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Featured images

Can commons images be featured images, the answer is bugging me. Francisco Tevez 15:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, images from the Wikimedia commons can be linked to all other Wikimedia projects but if an image is a featured image on commons it would have to go through the featured picture candidates process here on Misplaced Pages to be granted the featured picture status here, and the same if it wasn't a featured image on commons, it would still have to go through the same processs here. Hope that helps! The Sunshine Man 16:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Submitting pages

How would I submit a new page to Misplaced Pages?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Shzam (talk • contribs)

You may wish to take a look at Help:Starting a new page, dont forget to make sure it meets the notability guidelines and is suitable for Misplaced Pages. Hope that helps! The Sunshine Man 16:54, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Burmese fonts & reference

I edited or rather added more information on the article 'Sittwe'. It has some Burmese fonts. How can I edit so that the Burmese fonts will come into effect? I do not know how to put reference. So I just put it along with the text. Kindly enlighten me in these aspects. Thank you.

Religious Belife, forbidden depicting of holy person.

In the article, http://en.wikipedia.org/Muhammad, it shows maybe 2-3 pictures that kinda pictures Prophet Muhammad's body. But what I was taught that it's forbidden to make any kinds of images of any type of prophet. Can someone please help take down these images?

It might be for muslims but wikipedia is a secular encyclopedia, while we don't go out of our way to cause offence, we don't observe the tenets of various world religions or censor content on that basis. --Fredrick day 19:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Exactly, the policy on this is outlined in Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages is not censored. Prodego 19:15, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

It's one thing for a religion to tell its followers what they may or may not do, but quite another thing for that religion to assert what everyone must do or not do. Given that religions appear to evolve much like other social contructs (e.g., language, music, politics, art, and fashion), it is virtually inevitable that competing religions will generate conflicting claims about what is proper behavior. When one religion tries to impose its notions of proper behavior on everyone else, the result is Religious war. It is disturbing that billions of humans continue to be so intolerant of people who disagree with them. Also note: even if Muslims succeed in controlling the behavior of all non-Muslims, there is still the problem that Islam is as vulnerable to schism as any other religion, with the result being Sectarian violence (for example, see the conflict between Sunni and Shia). The same result would almost certainly follow if any other religion were to gain supremacy through violence, for example Christian fundamentalism. As evidence, consider the centuries of sectarian violence during the time when Europe was mostly Christian. Indoctrinating people to settle disagreements with violence dooms them to fight forever, because there can never be an end to disagreements. I suggest it is better to leave Medieval values behind and enter the 21st century in which we accept the fact that people are diverse. --Teratornis 17:23, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Possible Combination of Two Pages

I was wondering if Acra should possibly be combined with Acre, Israel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scout32 (talk • contribs)

No, Acra is a disambiguation page which means it links to other pages so merging the page seems unnecessary, hope this helped. The Sunshine Man 19:15, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree there is no reason to merge, but the two names could easily be confused so I have added a link at Acra per Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)#The "See also" section. PrimeHunter 20:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I mis-stated the question. Should Acra (fortress) be combined or added to Acre, Israel? - Scout32

From Acra (fortress): "The Acra was a fortress or citadel built in Jerusalem". From Acre, Israel: "... is a city in the Western Galilee district of northern Israel". I don't see any reason to combine them. They have similar names but are in different places. PrimeHunter 22:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for looking! - - Scout32

Biography

Why can't I make a biography on myself?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Beefmasterson (talk • contribs)

Because it would not meet WP:BIO, however you can use your userpage to post a small amount of information about yourself but this is used mainly for the sort of edits you make on Misplaced Pages, please see WP:USERPAGE for more information. Hope that helps! --The Sunshine Man 19:47, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Try piczo or myspace Regards Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 20:01, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Sending finished article by mail

A retired professor has written a short biography of "Jean Charlot," at the moment described only in a short note.

Can the author send the article to you directly for inclusion in Misplaced Pages? If so, to what address?

He will not be able to handle your instructions for submitting an article by computer.

Thank you.

John Charlot —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.22.251 (talk • contribs) (E-Mail removed for security purposes)

Well, Misplaced Pages articles must adhere to the biographies of living persons policy, it also has to meet WP:BIO. You will probably have to state here who the person is and say what context the article will have, unless this is provided I would say the article would not be suitable for Misplaced Pages. Please add what context the article would contain below. Please remember to insert ~~~~ at the end of you messages — this automatically produces your username/IP address, the date and time. Thanks --The Sunshine Man 20:11, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

There is also a potential issue of copyright here; the article cannot be published under a license that doesn't allow editing/alteration, and it must also adhere to the policy on original research. Bjelleklang - talk Bug Me 21:42, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Image

Can you have an image which links to an external website without having clicking the arrow that comes beside it?Wiki.user 20:16, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes on other wikis but over here it's been dsabled--User:Rock2e 20:52, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Ugly spaced in citation format

How do I fix the ugly spaces after the article title in this reference? I didn't add any, and don't see them in the article, so I don't know what is going on. Thanks. KP Botany 20:47, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Clifford

I'm trying to find out what store i can buy the movie Clifford starring Martin Short 1994 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.80.5.169 (talk • contribs)

If you go to an online store that sells DVDs and enter this code 027616902900, you can find the film Clifford directed by Paul Flaherty, and starring Martin Short, is available in DVD and you can order it from them. KP Botany 21:16, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

what are chinese mitten crabs

what purpose can mitten crabs provide here in maryland —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.99.94.52 (talk • contribs)

There is a Misplaced Pages article on Chinese mitten crabs. Click on the link to find out what you need to know. If you want more information than the article has, click on the Discussion tab at the top of the page and ask a question on the article's talk page, maybe an editor can help you out. KP Botany 21:18, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, article talk pages are for discussing changes to its associated article. If you want more information than the article provides you can ask a question at the WP:Reference desk. ssepp 21:52, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

That's not quite correct, asking questions on an article talk page about something not in the article is one method editors learn about changes or additions to articles. The reference desk should properly be refering questions about missing parts of articles to the articles' talk pages. KP Botany 21:56, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

creating account problems

After making a very minor edit of "proparoxytone" a day or two ago, I decided to add to the "monel" article because I have an object made of it. I made an image of the object and starting reading about how to upload the image, a confusing set of instructions in the midst of which was your claim that creating an account would simplify things. Now I am in a coil over that and have wasted more time than I intended to devote to the entire editing matter and still, apparently, don't have an account. Since the original edit (of text only) was so simple, I'm surprised that this day's trials have been beyond me.

Hello. You can create an account here. You just need to enter a desired username and password, and fill in the word you see in the image in the text box, to show you are not a bot. ssepp 21:59, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Who verifies links?

On a particular wiki, it states "DO NOT ADD MORE LINKS TO THIS ARTICLE. Links that have not been verified WILL BE DELETED"

Is this allowed and who is in charge of verifying the links?

For reference, the question appears to refer to the {{NoMoreLinks}} template. Read the text on the template page for more information. --Teratornis 22:50, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

To clarify: Yes, it is valid to add this template. Occasionally, we'll have problems with people attempting to advertise their company/forum/blog/etc. by adding a link to a related article. These have to be deleted repeatedly. There's also problems with articles where people attempt to link to every possible site they can think of that has more information, whether or not it's appropriate to the article's subject. In any case, it's the other editors of the article who verify the links. Post the link to the article's Talk page, explain why you think it would add to the article, and let a Consensus develop there. -- Kesh 00:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

How do I merge articles?

The game Naruto: Narutimett Portable now has a seperate page saying the English version is a new game. It clearly isn't, and needs to have the info for the English version moved to the Japanese version page.

Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kylemcauliffe15 (talk • contribs).

Do you mean Naruto: Narutimate Portable? I'm not sure what you mean by "English version" and "Japanese version" because there appears to be only one article on this game. Unless you mean the Japanese Misplaced Pages, but I don't know the Japanese equivalent of this article. Either way, do you have any more information on what needs merging? x42bn6 Talk Mess 23:20, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Maybe it refers to Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Heroes. If you want to merge those articles then you should probably propose it first as described at the link. PrimeHunter 23:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

June 3

Newest Articles

Hello all, I was wondering, are there any criteria for posting something on the Did you know part of the main page, and if there are, how does one go about doing it? Thank you so much, Neranei 00:41, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Yup, if you make a new article (or significantly expand an existing one), you can submit a fact from it at Did you know?, where it will be considered and if accepted, eventually make it onto the main page. --YFB ¿ 00:44, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Uploading an Image

I am inexperienced with copyright tags and image uploads and so forth. so what information would I need, and how would I use that info, to upload the third picture on ths page (http://www.starcraft2.com/wallpapers.xml)? The Clawed One 00:43, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

You can't. Pictures on Misplaced Pages (in most cases) have to be released under a free licence. The contents of that page is copyrighted by Blizzard Entertainment (see the small text at the bottom of the page) and all rights are reserved, meaning it's not suitable for use on Misplaced Pages. Most images found on the internet can't be uploaded here. --YFB ¿ 00:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

So, even though it's allowed to be downloaded as a wallpaper, it cannot be uploaded here? The Clawed One 00:50, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Correct. In the case of wallpapers, the copyright holder generally releases the image for personal, private use but does not permit commercial use or the creation of derivative images, both of which are requirements for images on Misplaced Pages. --YFB ¿ 00:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you. The Clawed One 00:56, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome :-) --YFB ¿ 00:57, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Printing problem

List of military aircraft of the United_States

The above site seem to have a problem printing beyond page 7. Is there a universal problem or is it just my system?

Thanks,

Gary Wolfe

<email redacted to prevent spam>

Might just be your system. Be sure to use the special printable version to remove unneeded text (e.g. navigation bar). E 02:16, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Template:Column and related templates

Hi. I currently edit on the wiki WoWWiki.com, and I was wondering about how to make Template:Columns-start, Template:Column, and Template:Columns-end work there. I have the templates copied to a set of my user sandboxes there, but when I try to apply them, they do not work. The sandboxes are located at here, here, and here, respectively. I also set up a sample list here that shows the issue. Feel free to leave your message here. If this is a little too specific for the help desk, send me where I need to go. :) --Izno 01:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

These templates are only very new and are still under development. You must copy all syntax from the edit page. E 02:18, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

The last edits made to each were in October. Not only that, but peaking through Whatlinkshere shows that the template is done. Are you sure? ;P --Izno 02:26, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Oops, it is. Wrong template I looked at there :P Yes, just copy all syntax from the template edit page to that one and it should work. E 02:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Except... it didn't work, as explained. Which made me sad. --Izno 03:06, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

adding info

how do you add information to it?

To what? The Misplaced Pages? If you have information that you would like to add to a certain article, simply go to that article and click the link at the top that says "edit this page", and then add the info. Maybe you'd like to have a look at our help pages. Dismas| 02:46, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Citing republished material

lol how thrilling. When you are citing something that's been republished (as in the EA Poe society of Baltimore republishing a journal article from here: Jeffrey A. Savoye, “Two Biographical Digressions: Poe's Wandering Trunk and Dr. Carter's Mysterious Sword Cane,” Edgar Allan Poe Review, Fall 2004, 5:15-42), and you've only clapped eyes on the republication, how are you supposed to make that clear in your citation? (you can see how we're doing it so far at Death of Edgar Allan Poe). I've read WP:CITE and it's a bit unclear on this. Thanks. -Malkinann 03:38, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

hi i have a 10doller bill that haz a star at the end of it what dose that mean

tis sn is removed what dose this mean if u can tell me hears my ph number phone number removed pleas tell me—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.129.248 (talk • contribs) 03:42, June 3, 2007

... I think Lolcats have learned how to use Misplaced Pages. *ahem* This page is for questions about Misplaced Pages itself. For other questions, use the Reference desk. -- Kesh 04:00, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Silver Labrador Retrievers

The information regarding Silver Labradors (under the main heading of Labrador Retrievers) is predominantly unsubstantiated opinions of blatantly biased non-silver lab breeders and owners, who post their personal anti-Silver Lab nonsense from anti-silver lab sites on the internet. Not only is the section referring to Silver Labs grossly biased, it contains considerable falsehoods and intentional disinformation, If those contributing editors can not substantiate and document: 1) "the original silver lab kennel had Weimers", 2) gene mapping was NOT done on silver labs in the 80s, and 3) Silver Labs are a "scam" (and all like accusations and slurs made throughout this category), then Misplaced Pages should insist these inflammatory and fraudulent accusations be withdrawn. In short, contributors on this site should be pressed by Misplaced Pages to either PROVE IT; or REMOVE IT.

By no stretch of the imagination is this site either correct or objective on the topic of Silver Labrador Retrievers. More importantly, when editing is done to this site to correct the incorrect allegations and accusations made by the anti-silver factions, this site editor (Sarrandúin ) removes the corrections in accordance with her own bias regarding Silver Labs (see site history as well as her remarks).

Because this site editor is incapable of editing for objectivity instead of her bias -- or even allowing both sides of the controversy on the site -- I request another editor be assigned to this site. If this editor is so delusional she believes she is being objective on the topic of silver labs, then the topic of what information is posted under the heading of Silver Labs should be settled by Misplaced Pages's Arbitration Board.

Dean Crist Crist Culo Kennels (email address removed)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.73.71.126 (talk • contribs) 04:16, June 3, 2007

I assume you are referring to Labrador Retriever#'Silver', 'blue', 'grey', and 'charcoal'? If you'll note the numbers in that section, they lead to specific articles which you can read to verify the statements. If you feel that these are not sufficient, discuss it on the Talk page until a consensus is reached, or request a commentary on the article.:If you have a problem with User:Sarranduin, please discuss it on that user's Talk page or use the dispute resolution process. This page is not for venting your frustrations with a particular editor. Further, there is no such thing as a "site editor." All users are editors on Misplaced Pages.

Finally, please read WP:NPA. Using terms like "delusional" is frowned upon. -- Kesh 05:01, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the article's talk page is the best play to go. I don't know which side you are on, but some of the links are problematic, and I had to remove the one statement and its dead link. The other links may have to be changed. I started a thread on the talk page, please join us there, line up your specific arguments on the context of the article only (not the editor) and your references and help fix the article to make it accurately reflect breed standards and general descriptions of the dog. KP Botany 05:07, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Lee Majors tv commercial

I have a bet that Lee Majors is currently appearing in a commercial for Coors Light Beer as a father offering advise to his son. Can anyone verify that my observation is correct? 76.209.55.83 05:18, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but Misplaced Pages is not the place to ask that. You will just have to see for yourself.--Jupiter12 05:31, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Try a Google Search perhaps? E 05:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Lee Majors#Recent activities says he continues to appear in commercials. You may have a chance to win your bet. Try: Google:"Lee Majors" "Coors Light" commercial. That turns up a References page on Bionic Wiki which shows promise but does not quite deliver. It says Coors ran a "Six Million Dollar Can" commercial but does not say that Lee Majors appeared in it. --Teratornis 16:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

The commercial is apparently called "Protection" and can be seen at http://www.coorslight.com. I don't know Lee Majors and cannot say whether it's him. The commercial is discussed at without naming actors. PrimeHunter 20:33, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Inactive Project Page

If there's a project page I'm interested in helping with, but it seems that no one is really running it, is it OK to just step in and organize going-ons for the project page?

If you need to see it, I'm talking about ] Thanks! Miles Blues 05:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Why not leave a note on the project's talk page and see if they need a leader. E 05:31, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

searching

I want to search universities city vises — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.18.170.58 (talk)

Go to this page, select your country from the list and there you have a list of universities in your country. E 05:49, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Templates

How do i view all availible templates for user pages. not only can i speak english, i can speak Japanese and i want to find a template for Japanese speaking like the english one. Efansay 06:29, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages:Babel for the language-based userboxes. E 06:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

To learn about the other userboxes, see User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Misplaced Pages#Use and scroll down to the Userboxes entry. --Teratornis 14:07, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Time Zones user box

How do i add a Time Zone user box? Efansay 07:07, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

You might choose one of the boxes listed at Misplaced Pages:Userboxes/Time. Peacent 07:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Userbox placement

Now that I've got a second userbox, here, how can I place them so that they're one underneath the other at the right of the page, not side-by-side? AndyJones 07:17, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. I hope you don't mind me editing your page. Peacent 07:22, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Good one, thank you. AndyJones 08:12, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Edit section 0

Is there some user-made plugin or something that would make a button for section 0? At least on talk pages. Because as it is, every time I want to edit section 0, I have to click on some other section and then manually change URL to say section=0. Shinhan 07:29, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there is. Just copy the script into your monobook. Peacent 07:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, thats exactly what I was looking for. And now I also know where to look for more scripts :) Shinhan 10:15, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Of course, you could just click 'edit this page' at the top. Daniel (‽) 16:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Imperial names and Misplaced Pages style

Hi!

I would like to know, which expression Misplaced Pages preferes when discussing matters pertaining to the pre-communist era of Russia. Should we use, when writing about the emperors, its Russian name:Tsar and tsarist or Emperor and imperial? --Tellervo 08:53, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

The people who decide such things often band together into WikiProjects. Browsing from there leads to: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Directory/Geographical/Europe#Russia which lists the promising WikiProject Russian History (it looks like a high percentage of members claim to hold PhD's in the subject). You might inquire on its talk page. --Teratornis 16:15, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Minimizing userboxes

I just wanna know how to minimize the userboxes. like if you have a lot and you want to save space. i'm asking because i have this problem of too many userboxes. Efansay 09:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Make a user subpage for them all, e.g. User:Efansay/Userboxes. E 09:14, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

That is one possibility, E, but I think they mean minimize like as in the Table of Contents; the show and hide function. A good template for this is the {{hidden}} template. Misplaced Pages:Userboxes has a few ways you can also use the same function. Good luck with it ;) –Sebi ~ 09:15, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Another way is to put them into a scrolling box can be found on Duggie647's user page. You can copy the code from his page (I'm sure he won't mind, I have a pretty good idea where he got it from ;) ), and paste it onto your page. –Sebi ~ 09:19, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

UserBox

Can someone please help by moving my user boxes to the center of the right box please it looks messy. Also could you look at my sandbox page and integrate the boxes to my main page. Separate boxes to the different subcatagories. PleaseWiki.user 10:36, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I've just fixed it. Hope that helps. E 11:00, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I've saw it up one but i didn't think that would help. If you could put my things into boxes like Jimmy Wales userpage that would be a big big help. ThanksWiki.user 11:03, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Your template in your sandbox looks good so far, try and improve that. E 11:05, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I can't get the code right though. Everytime i try to do something it gets messed. I was hoping someone with a bit more experience would be able to help me??Wiki.user 11:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

RE: Article on F. S. C. Northrop

Dear Sir or Madam:

The article "F. S. C. Northrop," which I wrote, in headed with the sentence, "This article is in need of attention from an expert on the subject." I have reviewed the article and could find nothing amiss. Perhaps you should remove the above mentioned sentence.

Thanks,

Dr. Fred Seddon author of Introduction to the Philosophical Works of F. S. C. Northrop 216.151.119.126 10:51, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

It has been removed as I went over the article too, looks pretty good and well documented. E 11:35, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the removal, however, the article currently does not cite any references. I've added a tag, please see Misplaced Pages:Citing sources and consider adding references for the article. If the books mentioned on this page are the sources, please specify them. Peacent 12:13, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

The expert tag was added in Februar 2006. PrimeHunter 12:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Changing the colour of your text.

I've only noticed just now that some people have their names and text coloured. Can someone tell me how to do this please. Efansay 10:59, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

You might find useful instructions on how to format text, including changing fonts, colours, etc here. Peacent 11:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

If you refer to signatures then see Misplaced Pages:Signatures#Customizing your signature. PrimeHunter 12:06, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Ah yeah, if that's the case, see also Misplaced Pages:How to fix your signature :) Peacent 12:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Site Suggestions

Hi

I have a suggestion you may wish to consider for Misplaced Pages and that is to allow users to rate entries for usefullness. I have just found out some really usefull information about smartmedia cards and it may be nice for the person who took the time to upload it if I rate them 5/5 stars for example.

Perhaps a league table could be developled which would encourage more and more users to upload usefull documents for the kudos of seeing their name high in the rankings? In a similar way to deciding whether to buy from a seller on ebay you could then use the users ranking as a means to gauge how much faith to put in the credibility of their entries.

Anyway, this is one of my top 10 internet sites, Keep up the goodwork.

Regards Forbury Lion —Preceding unsigned comment added by Forbury Lion (talk • contribs)

Hi there, it's me again, um well that is a good idea because then admins or users can see overall which articles need attention. Ranking an article overall is a good idea but making it so that there are league tables over complicates things and ranking users is i believe unfair and people could fake opinions to get higher in the league.Wiki.user 11:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Many people have usually contributed to good articles. Once an article is created, anybody can edit it (except rare cases where it is protected after a lot of vandalism). Some of the best articles are rated as Misplaced Pages:Featured articles or Misplaced Pages:Good articles. An editor can show appreciation of another editor (not just for good article writing) with Misplaced Pages:Barnstars. PrimeHunter 12:03, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:9/11 Memorial (Arizona)

It appears that it is considered a supage of Talk:9 due to the slash. If you look at the page you'll see what I mean. If there's a way to fix it, then please do so. 70.59.227.206 12:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I have no idea. Gotta go ask this question somewhere... Peacent 15:50, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Question asked at Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions. Peacent 16:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Searching for a missing or deleted article--"list of Disney Characters"

Hello. I have no idea how to go about doing this. I have tried to follow the process to figure out what happened to this "article," but find it terribly confusing.

What I am looking for was an alphabetical listing of Disney characters. I found it very helpful & used it almost daily. I think it may have been deleted, and I have no clue why. If it has, is it possible to have it restored?

Thank you!

It got deleted :Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Table of Disney characters. If you get an account, I could undelete and move it to your userspace. Viridae 13:15, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the response. I created an account. Just let me know what to do next! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clgoody (talk • contribs)

Userfied per request. Peacent 15:44, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi. What does "userfied per request" mean? I still cannot find the list. Is it me being a noob, or does it take some time to "move it to (your) userspace?"--Clgoody 17:19, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Replied on user talk. Peacent 17:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I did find the list. Thank you. Last question...what does this mean: "when you're done, please tag the subpage for speedy deletion using {Userreq}."--Clgoody 17:23, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Replied on user talk. Peacent 17:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

citing a wikipedia source

How do I cite a wikipedia article in APA style?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.47.59.48 (talk • contribs)

Well, sources have to be referenced in wiki-markup, see this page on how to cite sources here. Hope that helps! --The Sunshine Man 13:51, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

To cite a Misplaced Pages article in another work, click on "Cite this article" in the toolbox to the left when you view the article. It includes a citation in APA style. PrimeHunter 14:54, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Rediting a page before it appers on search

I understand that it takes a while to appear on search - index takes 30 hours or something. I just created a page on SDV - shut down valves but cant seem to relocate it anyway to add more meat to it and create links and simply just do more work on it. How do i do locate a page i just created if i dont want to wait for more than a day before working on it again.

Thanking you in adcvance —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gunav (talk • contribs)

Check your contributions (the 'my contributions' link at the top of the page) to find out the page's name. You can add a redirect to help out the search engine before it's indexed, if you like (see the linked page for details). --ais523 14:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I added a See also section to Shut down valve (SDV) per WP:LAYOUT with some links to related existing articles. Some of these should become inline links from jargon terms in the article. While searching for other related articles, I found a (initially) red link to Emergency shutdown valve on the ESV disambiguation page. I'm fairly certain Emergency shutdown valve is a synonym for Shut down valve (SDV), so I made the former a redirect to the latter. (A search: Google:emergency shutdown valve also finds the acronym ESDV.) Note to Gunav: when we add new articles to Misplaced Pages, we do not merely add new facts, but we also Build the web. That means you should search for articles relating to the topic you are writing about, and link to them from your article. Searching first is also necessary to insure your contribution is not redundant with an existing article or section. --Teratornis 16:08, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Locating a UK Army officer

I am attempting to locate a British army officer and cannot find the location for such information on Misplaced Pages. Can you advise where the information can be found?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.155.6.79 (talk • contribs)

Herbert Lepp, <(E-Mail removed for security purposes)> 3 June 2007

Please remember to add ~~~~ at the end of your comments to produce your username/IP and the date and time automatically. As for your help request.... the article may not exist, try typing the persons name into the search bar and if it does not exist then it has not yet been wrote, you could create the article but make sure it meets the biograhpies of living persons and WP:BIO, you may wish to see Help:Starting a new page. Hope that helps! --The Sunshine Man 15:26, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews help desk

I have found Wikinews' reference desk (now renamed "global networking") but I'm not well aware where the help desk of that project is. Could you please help?
Where should I ask?
MaxDZ8 talk 15:49, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

n:WN:WC? It's the Water Cooler. x42bn6 Talk Mess 15:52, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Uh... I spent some time navigating the help pages, main page talk and such but I didn't figure out it was this one.
Thank you very much.
MaxDZ8 talk 04:37, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

How do I report an insulting member?

"They weren't the same people stupid. You know what you are just being stupid."

Called stupid twice in one sentence.

When I try to reason with him...

"I don't care anymore. I'm not letting you win.."

All this, is in;

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Angry_Sun#DesGhidorah

It almost embarasses me to be arguing over such a trivial issue, but I will not stand to be insulted like this.83.100.253.141 16:16, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I reccommend first informing the editor of what he or she has done, and requesting the remain civil, and do not make any personal attacks. After that, if they continue, perhaps informing an admin would be a good idea. --Tλε Rαnδоm Eδιτоr 16:49, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

My personal take is to be more concerned with the facts than with irrelevant commentary about the participants in a discussion. Someone may think I am stupid, or I may in fact be stupid, but those possibilities have no bearing on the validity of any arguments I may advance. All arguments can be judged on their logical merits, regardless of who they come from. See Critical thinking, Ad hominem, Appeal to emotion, and Reductio ad Hitlerum. If you understand the rhetorical tricks your opponent is employing in an attempt to fluster you and distract from the real issue under discussion, you can learn to avoid being bothered by your opponent's tricks. Your opponent wants you to stop thinking about whatever point you were trying to make, and waste your time getting excited about being insulted, which is futile in any case because simply as a practical matter it is very difficult to dictate your notion of allowable speech habits to everyone else in the world (see Free speech; Libel; Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy). And yes, it should embarrass you to fall victim to such a playground trick, but only momentarily as it is so simple to learn to see through such tricks and get control of your emotions to keep them working productively for you. --Teratornis 16:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

huuuuuuuuu♦

What do you do here?

Here on wikipedia, we are trying to write and give away a free encyclopædia. ~ ΜΛGиυs ΛΠιмυМ ≈ √∞ 17:07, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages, Project:About, Wikimedia Foundation, Jimmy Wales, and The Hive by Marshall Poe. --Teratornis 03:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

image contributions

How do I view a user's edits that revert or change images? basically I want to see all the edits by this vandal: UmagaOwnsAll!. I've reverted his changes to articles, but I can't seem to find a way to list all his edits to images such as this one: (see history). I revert them as I find them, but is there any where that lists all of these image edits in one place? --Krsont 17:08, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Go to Special:Log and enter the user's username in the username field to see all non-edit actions that user has taken, such as image uploads. --ais523 17:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

This asserts that the vandal has made no image edits, however. ~ ΜΛGиυs ΛΠιмυМ ≈ √∞ 17:12, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Which he clearly has, see the history of that example I gave (there are many others I have found too)... --Krsont 17:17, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

ah ok, found it . Good to know for future editing :) --Krsont 17:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Creating a new infobox for Malaysian schools

I would like to create a new kind of infobox for Malaysian schools. I want to make something similar to Template:Infobox country, which looks like this: 120px And I want the syntax to look like this: 120px Does anyone know how to create a new template page like this? Thanks! --Edmundkh 17:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

There is always {{High School Infobox}}. ~ ΜΛGиυs ΛΠιмυМ ≈ √∞ 17:13, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

But I prefer my own design! That template you mentioned is not suitable for Malaysian schools. If you're not Malaysian, then you may not understand why I designed another type. --Edmundkh 17:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Creating a complicated infobox like those illustrated by your images would be rather difficult. I suggest you ask for further help at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Infoboxes. Peacent 17:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I was going to suggest you inquire at WikiProject Malaysia, but that WikiProject does not seem to exist yet. Perhaps you could start one (see: WP:PROJGUIDE). Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Directory/Geographical/Asia#Southeast_Asia lists a WikiProject Southeast Asia which appears to have a section for Malaysia. You might ask on its talk page if anyone can help you. If you can't find anyone to help, then you will have to study template design, at least enough so you can figure out how to edit an existing similar template into the template you need. See: Help:Template, Help:Infobox, and User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Misplaced Pages#Tem. Other advice:

• A scan of a hand-written prototype to illustrate your template layout is difficult for others to read. You should instead type the layout you want, perhaps on your user page. Just type the text the way you want it to appear, within a <pre>...</pre> tag. See: Misplaced Pages:How to edit a page#No or limited formatting - showing exactly what is being typed. Also type your prototype template call that way. Then others can easily see what you want.
• List of Wikipedias lists a Malay Misplaced Pages; you might find a suitable school template you can copy and adapt from that. Or if not, you should also develop your Malaysian school template there, where I am sure you will find other Malaysians who understand your design.

--Teratornis 17:49, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Charlie Card

How do I obtain a Charlie Card?

If you mean CharlieCard you could start by reading that article. --Teratornis 18:56, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Requesting Adoption

How do I find A list of Adopters? So I might request them to Adopt Me--Goldiesmoon 18:57, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Here is a complete list of adopters. Misplaced Pages:Adopt-a-User/Adoptee's Area/Adopters. --Tλε Rαnδоm Eδιτоr 19:15, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

searching for a particular articles form papers

How can i search for specific paper articles?

Can you clarify what you mean? --Tλε Rαnδоm Eδιτоr 19:42, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikisource ? ? ? ?

Go to www.wikisource.org, and search the name of the paper you want. --Tλε Rαnδоm Eδιτоr<;/font> 22:28, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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