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	I'm surprised this article isn't fuller; Giuliano is an important figure in Sicilian history. I'm going to try to fill it out a bit. Incidentally I believe Pisciotta was Giuliano's cousin. --] 12:20, 1 August 2005 (UTC)		I'm surprised this article isn't fuller; Giuliano is an important figure in Sicilian history. I'm going to try to fill it out a bit. Incidentally I believe Pisciotta was Giuliano's cousin. --] 12:20, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

			==Pisciotta==
	Pisciotta was ''not'' Giuliano's cousin. Professor Chandler's book puts this to rest. I'll be doing some work on the article based on this book		Pisciotta was ''not'' Giuliano's cousin. Professor Chandler's book puts this to rest. I'll be doing some work on the article based on this book
	"King of the Mountain" soon. --] 22:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)		"King of the Mountain" soon. --] 22:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

			==Thompson beretta?==
	There's no reference or documentation for the forensic evidence from the Portella della Ginestra massacre. The language, "9 mm Thompson beretta" is suspect. Thompson is a type of American submachine gun never manufactured outside the US to the best of my knowledge. Beretta is the family and brand name of an Italian arms manufacturer. If there is an English translation of any recently discovered forensic evidence, could someone please post a link? If untranslated, could someone please translate and post? Thanks!		There's no reference or documentation for the forensic evidence from the Portella della Ginestra massacre. The language, "9 mm Thompson beretta" is suspect. Thompson is a type of American submachine gun never manufactured outside the US to the best of my knowledge. Beretta is the family and brand name of an Italian arms manufacturer. If there is an English translation of any recently discovered forensic evidence, could someone please post a link? If untranslated, could someone please translate and post? Thanks!
	--] 20:52, 20 June 2007 (UTC)		--] 20:52, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

			I agree the article is hopelessly short in references. The historian Giuseppe Casarrubea (see his blog in Italian ) talks about "il mitra corto Thompson" without mentioning "beretta". I am not a weapon expert, but it seems you are right. By the way, I would not only take Chandlers's book as a reference, but have a look at 'Storia segreta della Sicilia: Dallo sbarco alleato a Portella della Ginestra' (The secret history of Sicily: From the allies' landing to Portella della Ginestraof) by Casarrubea as well. Not translated (yet), I am afraid (from a flyer of the publisher: "Following scrupulous study of the papers declassified by Bill Clinton in 2000 at the National Archive and Records Administration (Maryland), together with other Italian secret service documents, never systematically analysed before, Giuseppe Casarrubea reconstructs the map of subversion in Italy in the period featuring the constitution of national unity governments and of paramilitary groups, after April 25th 1945 - the date of Italy’s liberation. In doing so he turns the spotlight on the 1947 massacre of a group of civilians in Portella della Ginestra in Sicily." ) He comes up with the theory that the Portella della Ginestra massacre was an attack by clandestine anti-communist networks (a kind of forerunners of the ] network), often composed of former fascist militia's. - ] 21:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

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I'm surprised this article isn't fuller; Giuliano is an important figure in Sicilian history. I'm going to try to fill it out a bit. Incidentally I believe Pisciotta was Giuliano's cousin. --61.68.103.208 12:20, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Pisciotta

Pisciotta was not Giuliano's cousin. Professor Chandler's book puts this to rest. I'll be doing some work on the article based on this book "King of the Mountain" soon. --Tapered 22:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Thompson beretta?

There's no reference or documentation for the forensic evidence from the Portella della Ginestra massacre. The language, "9 mm Thompson beretta" is suspect. Thompson is a type of American submachine gun never manufactured outside the US to the best of my knowledge. Beretta is the family and brand name of an Italian arms manufacturer. If there is an English translation of any recently discovered forensic evidence, could someone please post a link? If untranslated, could someone please translate and post? Thanks! --Tapered 20:52, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree the article is hopelessly short in references. The historian Giuseppe Casarrubea (see his blog in Italian ) talks about "il mitra corto Thompson" without mentioning "beretta". I am not a weapon expert, but it seems you are right. By the way, I would not only take Chandlers's book as a reference, but have a look at 'Storia segreta della Sicilia: Dallo sbarco alleato a Portella della Ginestra' (The secret history of Sicily: From the allies' landing to Portella della Ginestraof) by Casarrubea as well. Not translated (yet), I am afraid (from a flyer of the publisher: "Following scrupulous study of the papers declassified by Bill Clinton in 2000 at the National Archive and Records Administration (Maryland), together with other Italian secret service documents, never systematically analysed before, Giuseppe Casarrubea reconstructs the map of subversion in Italy in the period featuring the constitution of national unity governments and of paramilitary groups, after April 25th 1945 - the date of Italy’s liberation. In doing so he turns the spotlight on the 1947 massacre of a group of civilians in Portella della Ginestra in Sicily." ) He comes up with the theory that the Portella della Ginestra massacre was an attack by clandestine anti-communist networks (a kind of forerunners of the Gladio network), often composed of former fascist militia's. - Mafia Expert 21:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

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