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	Thanks for the support! I am flattered by your comments. :) Also, just as a procedural note: The way that RfAs are structured is different from AfDs. Instead of people adding their comments to the bottom of the current list, there are three sections for "Support" "Oppose" and "Neutral". So I'd recommend moving your comment into the appropriate section. Also, there's a "total tally" number at the top of the page which should be updated to reflect the current totals. Though even experienced Wikipedians often forget to update that number, so it's usually a good idea to do not just a "plus 1", but to actually double-check totals and see if it needs to be brought into line with some earlier comments. Another etiquette thing is that it's usually a good idea to put a note in your edit summary indicating what you just did. But all of this is really just FYI... I'm sure that even if you don't do anything, the page will get cleaned up (it's getting watched pretty closely). But I did want to let you know! Thanks again, ]]] 21:25, 28 July 2007 (UTC)		Thanks for the support! I am flattered by your comments. :) Also, just as a procedural note: The way that RfAs are structured is different from AfDs. Instead of people adding their comments to the bottom of the current list, there are three sections for "Support" "Oppose" and "Neutral". So I'd recommend moving your comment into the appropriate section. Also, there's a "total tally" number at the top of the page which should be updated to reflect the current totals. Though even experienced Wikipedians often forget to update that number, so it's usually a good idea to do not just a "plus 1", but to actually double-check totals and see if it needs to be brought into line with some earlier comments. Another etiquette thing is that it's usually a good idea to put a note in your edit summary indicating what you just did. But all of this is really just FYI... I'm sure that even if you don't do anything, the page will get cleaned up (it's getting watched pretty closely). But I did want to let you know! Thanks again, ]]] 21:25, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

			*Thanks,''' Elonka''', yeah, I had figured out that my Support vote shouldn't be at the bottom of the page in the Oppose section. ] 21:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

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thank you

I completely understand what you are saying about the supercouple page and I think you are right in doing so, I don't by any means want to start a wiki war, or anything so thank you for correcting my error. I was trying to put a picture for the EJ Wells page last night but I couldn't do it so if you could please help me next time I'd be very grateful.once again thank you. User:Perfecttlovee

Sure, I can help you with putting up an EJ Wells picture. Just point me to the right site to snag it, and I'll upload it for you, if you have any difficulties with uploading an EJ Wells picture yourself. Flyer22 00:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I took care of the picture problem you mentioned. Flyer22 00:58, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much.Oh I also commentted the supercouple page. Im just trying to fix it so it can remain neutral, but people keep on changing things.

It really doesn't matter if EJ and Sami are mentioned in supercouples today, as long as we dont have the back and forth, but I think it'd be better if you just to sami and lucas off to so no other fans will be fighting.

Hey, I'm not sure why you removed Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston from the celebrity supercouple list, but I added them back, because although they are a past couple, they were definitely a supercouple. And these lists also state past supercouples.

As for the Lucas and Sami topic you mention, I explained with this link... Flyer22 01:54, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

sorry to bother you again but can you help me with this situation, there is this user 74.100.47.13 that keeps changing things on the EJ character seperate page as well as the sami one. Putting things like soulmate and the paternity of the babies which neither are concluded are true I have changed this time and time again but nothing works it keeps getting changed, so can we prevent this without deleting there pages?

I'll check it out. If this user is reporting things that are untrue, then you can defintely report this user to an administrator here at Misplaced Pages. And this user most definitely shouldn't state soulmate in their separate articles...unless there is a verifiable source beside it.

Also, don't forget to sign your user-name on talk pages, even though I know that it's you I'm talking to as of now, but such as on the Supercouple talk page, you forgot to sign your user-name. Flyer22 02:34, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

about the Jennifer and brad pitt page sorry I just thought it was recent supercouples but for the angelina jolie and brad pitt I added a link that explains their supercouple status if you want it I'll be more than happy to give you the URL. whenever I have something to edit I'll check with you first but yes, I dont know if this user is anonymous but I will report when untrue things are put on there thank you. User: Perfecttlovee

You don't have to check with me first to edit anything, but just make sure that you provide good sources when adding information to the Supercouple article. And I don't feel that any couple on the supercouple lists should be removed, unless they truly aren't supercouples.

And, yes, I know of the link you speak of, if you mean the link from sofeminine.co.uk, but since that site is already referenced to twice within the Supercouple article, it's best that we don't link to them yet again within the Supercouple article. Also, to have most of the celebrity supercouples pointed out as supercouples from different sites, it adds to the fact that the reference to celebrity supercouples isn't just coming from one source. Flyer22 03:13, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, Okay thank you. Perfecttlovee 8:17 pm, June 30, 2007

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J. R. etc.

Naming conventions I'm not necessarily personally invested in the spelling of "J. R."s and "J.R."s but the naming conventions say to put in the space. While moving the pages I have seen such variations as "X. Y. Name" (correct) "X.Y. Name" "X.Y.Name" "Name X.Y. Name" "Name.X.Y.Name" "Name X.Y.Name" etc. While that isn't exactly chaotic to the point of unintelligibility, it is 1.) arbitrary and 2.) in contravention of the simple rule. I didn't take your question as snide, but genuine and reasonable. Thanks for asking. If you want to respond, please do so on my talk. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 14:42, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Spelling throughout article I would certainly think that the spelling should be the same as the article's title throughout the text, but I don't know that there is a rule as such. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 22:41, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts on the matter, Justin (koavf). I'll most likely spell it the way you suggest throughout the entire J. R. Chandler and Babe Carey article...eventually. Flyer22 23:29, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Round two? So, you're in favor of moving it back, then? I suppose if you have some source that definitively says that the character's name is "JR" and not "J. R." or what have you, then I'd be fine with moving it back. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 00:25, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Were the two links that I gave you earlier, where his name is spelled J.R. and not J. R. good enough? I take it that they are not, since you want me to provide another source, but I ask anyway. Flyer22 00:36, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Sure I'll move it back. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 00:57, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again. Flyer22 01:01, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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Bianca Montgomery and Josh Madden articles

Thanks for the request to look over your expansion of these articles; I've been out of the country and haven't had a chance yet, but I took a quick look and I'm impresed with the work you put into them! Thanks for your contributions and I'll get back to you whan I can. TAnthony 15:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, TAnthony, I'm really trying to figure out how to cut down on the plot summary of the Bianca Montgomery article, or if it's that necessary, gven her status as a long-running character on a soap opera, in which soap operas naturally have more episodes than primetime shows. Josh Madden's plot summary is more than an acceptable length, but I'm sure that it'll eventually get longer, with other editors adding on to it. When that happens, I'll just have to find a way to get his article back to an acceptable smaller length, without taking out important parts of his storyline. Flyer22 15:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Bianca Montgomery

Hi - sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I took a quick look at the article, and I would say the plot summary is a quite long, but if this is a long-running and major character I don't think it's excessive. Cheers, EliminatorJR 06:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, EliminatorJR. I'll probably edit down the plot summary eventually to the Bianca Montgomery character article, even though as I and you have stated...the Bianca Montgomery character is a long-running character of a soap opera. Well, most likely I'll definitely edit the plot summary down of that character article, if she returns for a longer stay, where then other editors will add on to her character history, making the plot summary even longer.

And, of course, don't worry about not having gotten back to me too soon on this matter. I know that editors on Misplaced Pages are busy with work, some more so than others. See you around, EliminatorJR. Flyer22 06:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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Thank you!

I just wanted to thank you for your kind comments on my talk page. I am also really impressed with the way you debate and am incredibly grateful to you for your interest and help with the EJ and Sami page. You are much more familiar with Wiki policy than I am and so I really appreciate the perspective that you can bring to the debate. I'm pleased to hear that it appears as though the article will not be deleted. I really do think it is of interest to a lot of people (with an interest in this particular soap). Thanks again! Radiantbutterfly 21:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

All neat, Radiantbutterfly.

And, on a totally different topic, as I stated on another editor's talk page, a tip that an experienced Wikipedian editor gave me when I first showed up at Misplaced Pages, is that it's best that an editor's user name on Misplaced Pages show up in blue instead of red. It just signals more a "real editor" vibe to experienced Wikipedian editors. You don't have to add on a lot to your user page, of course. You can just say "Hi" on your user page, and your user name will then show up in blue, of course. I've wanted to pass this tip on to you for a while now, so I finally did. Flyer22 23:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Lucille Ball-Desi Arnaz

Flyer22, The site that you are linking is hardly dedicated to the couple of Lucy and Desi. It's mostly about Lucille Ball with a few parahraphs on her relationship with Desi. Lucille Ball is my favorite actress and I am sure that the website I have continuously linked it to after it was removed, deals with their relationship because it is the home website for the Lucille Ball-Desi Arnaz Center in Jamestown, NY which is run by their daughter, Lucie Arnaz. Their legacy is based on lucy-desi.com, so it should remain on this website. Thank you.

I'll ask at least two other editors here at Misplaced Pages on what they think on this matter later, because even though lucy-desi.com is based on Lucille and Desi's legacy, it's probably considered more of a fansite, in which Misplaced Pages usually doesn't want links to fansites, but for now...I won't remove it, if you add it back, at least not until I discuss this issue with two or more editors here. Flyer22 02:18, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I just really love Lucy and Desi.71.125.193.129 01:21, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Jason

Thanks. It took me forever to rewrite it all, but I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out and now it has some trusted editors (who were not originally working on the page) going through and copyediting it. Thank you for attempting to fix a problem. Your correction at least made it grammatically correct. A lot of times, since I wrote it and read all the books, I tend to read everything the way it was intended. There was a quote that someone pointed out, where I typed "go" instead of "got". I kept reading it as I had intended until they bolded the words for me and I was like, "oh...duh". I have a couple more books I want to pick up, which I'm hoping will maybe help with the characterization section and maybe the popular culture section. So, it's not done yet (at least, here's to hoping they talk about Jason in the books I want to get..lol). BIGNOLE (Contact me) 00:48, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

LOL, Bignole. Well, when the Jason Voorhees article is up as a featured article candidate, let me know. That article will surely get my vote for Support. I love it already. Flyer22 00:56, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

- I'm going to hold you to that. Happy editing! BIGNOLE (Contact me) 01:01, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Happy editing to you too, Bignole. Flyer22 07:58, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

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The source for this image has been provided, along with that source's terms of use of its content. Flyer22 09:07, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Bianca Montgomery and Maggie Stone

Hi Flyer22. You are off to such a great start on the article Bianca Montgomery and Maggie Stone that it may qualify to appear on Misplaced Pages's Main Page under the Did you know... section. The Main Page gets about 4,000,000 hits per day and appearing on the Main Page may help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Also, don't forget to keep checking back at Did you know suggestions for comments regarding your nomination. Again, great job on the article. -- Jreferee 13:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I must say that I didn't expect this article to get this kind of attention within the first couple of days of its creation. Thank you for your comments on this article and for even feeling that it can be featured on Misplaced Pages's Main Page under the Did you know... section. Flyer22 20:34, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

EJ Wells Samantha Brady Page

Esse123 refuses to leave the article neutral and keeps changing the neurtal page with the correct article and puts in place her opinions. The article she is choosing to refer to is NOT about the rape but is a two page article about Santo DiMera and Colleen Brady. While I believe she has every right to have the portion of the article, her version makes it sound like the article was an official statement when it was merely a quote within an article, not any kind of official statement. Additionally, the bolding of the word rape and the word count contribute nothing. I hope I did this right. I'm sorry if I didn't.75.181.107.214 23:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I will talk with Esse on this, and see what I can resolve for you all on this matter. Flyer22 23:54, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for changing the title. I removed her comments of "despite the debate" and returned the paragraph to the neutral "in an article about Santo and Colleen" as she has no proof of debates other than message boards which are opinion, not fact. Starting with "despite the debate" only serves as inflamatory and starts the fight to make the article neutral all over again. The article is about Santo and Colleen, and the fact that producers recognize the Sweeney/Scott pairing as a popular one, not about the debate. I made it a neutral statement. Thank you for your help.75.181.107.214 13:40, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again. I included the "four times" and the bold despite my disagreement with the use of bold, but removed "despite the debate" and did what I could for neutrality.:

In an article about the Santo DiMera/Colleen Brady storyline in the July 17 2007 edition of Soap Opera Digest, Days of our Lives Co-Executive Producer Stephen Wyman refers to the December 29 2006 incident between EJ and Sami as rape four times. He is quoted as saying:

"Naturally, we don’t expect anyone to forget about the rape, nor do we expect anyone to take EJ’s rape of Sami lightly,” notes Co-Executive Producer Stephen Wyman. “However, we know life goes on. People can change. At some point, the issue of the rape is going to have to be dealt with in the fundamental way, but meanwhile, there is the audience that wants to see EJ and Sami together. they aren’t forgetting about the rape, either.”

The article which is about the Santo/Colleen storyline in which the actors Alison Sweeney and James Scott portray two characters from the past falling in love. Soap Opera Digest notes, "this story provides an opportunity for the actors to work together romantically in a less controversial tale."

I hope this stays in line with Wiki's policy and again, sorry if I did this wrong. Talk pages confuse me. Here is a link to the full article, typed by someone, http://boards.sonypictures.com/soaps/showthread.php?t=93931 if you want to decide. Thank you again75.181.107.214 14:03, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Flyer. I'm sorry to put you in the middle of all this. I don't know what Wiki's policies are on personal, verbal attacks but I'd like you to make note of some of what was said between myself and the other editor. It is all on my discussion board. I apologize for my part in this petty back-and-forth editing, but there was no call for some of what was said to me.

Also, regarding the "despite the debate" issue, the word "debate" was chosen specifically because it has been used multiple times in the article already. It was not my word, I took it from the wiki article itself. In fact the exact wording of "Despite the heated debate" begins the "Rival Couple" entry under "Details on Popularity". I would like for it to be added back to the Co-Exec Quote entry but will wait for your decision. Esse123 15:37, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

The article is not about the debate. The article is about Santo and Colleen. You cannot reference a debate as there is no reference to it in the article. "Referencing" debate indicates it is part of the article and it is not, it is the personal feelings of one editor that he made the comments because of the debate. Your not understanding that you are referencing an article, not embellishing it. You do not know Wyman knows anything of the debate. You only know what you know, that there is an online debate. As to "personal attacks" I am not putting my personal feelings into the article. I am making a sincere and concerted effort to keep the article neutral, which you do seem intent not to do. The SOD article did NOT address the debate, it addressed the storyline of Santo and Colleen and had a notation about the rape. That is all. That's what the SOD article is about and that's what the paragraph is to reference to remain neutral. Also your statement said "- Despite debate by some fans about the show's position on the December 29 2006 events between EJ and Sami" the debate is not about the "shows position" the debate is about whether or not it was rape. The "show" has used the word deal, obliged, and Wyman used rape. It is obvious even the show doesn't take a hard and fast position on the subject. I have no objection to the reference from the SOD article being included. My objection is the embellishment and personal feelings. User:75.181.107.214|75.181.107.214]] 15:59, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

DYK

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RfA

Thanks for the support! I am flattered by your comments. :) Also, just as a procedural note: The way that RfAs are structured is different from AfDs. Instead of people adding their comments to the bottom of the current list, there are three sections for "Support" "Oppose" and "Neutral". So I'd recommend moving your comment into the appropriate section. Also, there's a "total tally" number at the top of the page which should be updated to reflect the current totals. Though even experienced Wikipedians often forget to update that number, so it's usually a good idea to do not just a "plus 1", but to actually double-check totals and see if it needs to be brought into line with some earlier comments. Another etiquette thing is that it's usually a good idea to put a note in your edit summary indicating what you just did. But all of this is really just FYI... I'm sure that even if you don't do anything, the page will get cleaned up (it's getting watched pretty closely). But I did want to let you know! Thanks again, El on ka 21:25, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Elonka, yeah, I had figured out that my Support vote shouldn't be at the bottom of the page in the Oppose section. Flyer22 21:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Soap Opera Digest, "New Twist in Days's Most Controversial Tale", week of July 17 2007.