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| :::::What's the problem with using ] for this, like admins already do? This seems like unnecessary duplication with the added disadvantage that the page is protected. ] // ] 02:19, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC) | :::::What's the problem with using ] for this, like admins already do? This seems like unnecessary duplication with the added disadvantage that the page is protected. ] // ] 02:19, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC) | ||
| This is where we record suspensions '''after''' making them. | |||
| There are three kinds of users who edit pages on this website: | |||
| *Those who come to make an accurate, useful and unbiased encyclopedia | |||
| *Those who are experimenting, playing around, etc. | |||
| *Those who are determined to thwart Misplaced Pages's goals | |||
| Those in the latter group should be excluded. And admins should not have to spend days, or even hours, filling out paperwork for this. If a few genuine, heartfelt attempts to explain the rules won't work, suspend the person. | |||
| When they come back, they can try again. | |||
| And they good part is, with 100 admins able to undo a block by any one admin, there's little chance of egregious error. (Assuming the original admin doesn't launch a ] - ah, but that's against the rules too, so that shoul cover everything) | |||
| We're not here to create a blog community, but to create an encyclopedia. The rules are VERY EASY to follow, and if you can't figure them out you can always ask. The only people who will get suspended are those who are not even trying to comply with policy. ] ] 02:20, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC) | |||
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What, just "policies"? We don't have to specify which ones? Isn't that a little on the convenient side?
No wait. What I meant to say was: this page is redundant with Special:Log/Block and/or Special:Ipblocklist. Isn't it?
No wait with feeling. What is the purpose of this page, actually? It doesn't say. I suppose it's not to reinforce the clique of adminship by encouraging them to "me, too" the decisions made, and/or delineate the subcliques by encourage "me neither" responses? Because whatever it's supposed to do, I do believe that's what it's going to end up like, sure as WP:AN/I is doing it now. JRM · Talk 02:01, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)
- I think this is a good idea, and we should let Ed see whether it works. There are cases of serious policy violations where our hands are almost tied, and they shouldn't be. Noel, perhaps you could edit the page to tighten up that the specific policies have to be named. SlimVirgin 02:06, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
- It's a place to list and discuss blocks that might normally be regarded as controversial. For example, if we block a user for disruption, which we're allowed to do, or borderline vandalism, which someone else might not regard as vandalism. Or block for an NPOV violation, which again is a subjective judgment. We can discuss those issues here with other admins, and may only proceed with the block if other admins agree. Then we can list the blocks here, and monitor how effective they are. SlimVirgin 02:14, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
- Ok, maybe I misread this - I thought it would be a place to discuss potentially controvertial decisions before they were implemented. Am I mistaken? Regardless, transparency is good - better than discussing these things by email or irc. Guettarda 02:18, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- What's the problem with using WP:AN/I for this, like admins already do? This seems like unnecessary duplication with the added disadvantage that the page is protected. JYolkowski // talk 02:19, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This is where we record suspensions after making them.
There are three kinds of users who edit pages on this website:
- Those who come to make an accurate, useful and unbiased encyclopedia
- Those who are experimenting, playing around, etc.
- Those who are determined to thwart Misplaced Pages's goals
Those in the latter group should be excluded. And admins should not have to spend days, or even hours, filling out paperwork for this. If a few genuine, heartfelt attempts to explain the rules won't work, suspend the person.
When they come back, they can try again.
And they good part is, with 100 admins able to undo a block by any one admin, there's little chance of egregious error. (Assuming the original admin doesn't launch a blocking war - ah, but that's against the rules too, so that shoul cover everything)
We're not here to create a blog community, but to create an encyclopedia. The rules are VERY EASY to follow, and if you can't figure them out you can always ask. The only people who will get suspended are those who are not even trying to comply with policy. -- Uncle Ed (talk) 02:20, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)