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| I can understand wanting to link to a personal account but a less ah controversial site would be preferable.] 00:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC) | I can understand wanting to link to a personal account but a less ah controversial site would be preferable.] 00:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
| *I don't wish to carry on using your Talk for long and potentially excited defenses of edits I make, which is why I've created this page. (It has another advantage, if I talk rubbish, you can tell me so). | |||
| *Defenders of Israel have huge problems with because these folk are outraged that their faith is so horrendously abused. The fact they they're real practitioners of Judaism is only further reason to hate them, top administrator have accused them of extremism and compared them directly with the real thugs of Kahane, without giving any grounds whatsoever. This time, the reference of the JAZ I've used is not attacking Israel (elsewhere they credibly claim that supporters of Israel contributed to the Holocaust), but defends the pre-Israel state of Jewish-Muslim relations in Palestine, which they claim were always good. The "Real Torah" Jews are by no means the only ones to quote historical accounts to do this. Supporters of Israel seek to silence these real practitioners of Judaism and make constant accusations of antisemitism, against Palestinians, against editors like me - and play such very nasty tricks as accusing survivors of the Holocaust of collaboration against the Nazis on patently false grounds. (Find the link to this if you're interested). | |||
| *Ultimately, it comes down to how WP should balance race-hatred against protests against race-hatred. I think WP should stamp out the former and big up the latter. But I know I'm in a tiny minority, I earned a 1 month ban for against the constant ethnic labelling that goes on. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 06:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *PS - see - another editor (a seriously knowledgeable and productive one) has multiple issues with the editing of this particular article, and references my introducing the testimony of Baruch Kaplan as likely having been proper. My reference, than introduced by the very same editor straight after removing my JAZ reference. The reference introduced (into the lead, not just references at the end!) is non-English and appears to be the work of the notorious Hebron settlers, so unpleasant that an Israeli "senior military man" has called ''a pogrom against the Arabs of Hebron, with no provocations on the Palestinian side.'' ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 10:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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I can understand wanting to link to a personal account but a less ah controversial site would be preferable.Geni 00:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- I don't wish to carry on using your Talk for long and potentially excited defenses of edits I make, which is why I've created this page. (It has another advantage, if I talk rubbish, you can tell me so).
- Defenders of Israel have huge problems with www.jewsagainstzionism.com because these folk are outraged that their faith is so horrendously abused. The fact they they're real practitioners of Judaism is only further reason to hate them, top administrator have accused them of extremism and compared them directly with the real thugs of Kahane, without giving any grounds whatsoever. This time, the reference of the JAZ I've used is not attacking Israel (elsewhere they credibly claim that supporters of Israel contributed to the Holocaust), but defends the pre-Israel state of Jewish-Muslim relations in Palestine, which they claim were always good. The "Real Torah" Jews are by no means the only ones to quote historical accounts to do this. Supporters of Israel seek to silence these real practitioners of Judaism and make constant accusations of antisemitism, against Palestinians, against editors like me - and play such very nasty tricks as accusing survivors of the Holocaust of collaboration against the Nazis on patently false grounds. (Find the link to this if you're interested).
- Ultimately, it comes down to how WP should balance race-hatred against protests against race-hatred. I think WP should stamp out the former and big up the latter. But I know I'm in a tiny minority, I earned a 1 month ban for this protest against the constant ethnic labelling that goes on. PR 06:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- PS - see this exchange - another editor (a seriously knowledgeable and productive one) has multiple issues with the editing of this particular article, and references my introducing the testimony of Baruch Kaplan as likely having been proper. My reference, is a vastly better source than this one introduced by the very same editor straight after removing my JAZ reference. The reference introduced (into the lead, not just references at the end!) is non-English and appears to be the work of the notorious Hebron settlers, so unpleasant that an Israeli "senior military man" has called one example of their behaviour a pogrom against the Arabs of Hebron, with no provocations on the Palestinian side. PR 10:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)