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	{{nutshell\|Topics within a fictional universe are ] if they have received substantial coverage in ] secondary sources. Non-notable information should be deleted only when other options have been exhausted.}}
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	:''For articles about books and films, rather than characters and locations therein, please refer to the guidelines ] and ].''
	'''Misplaced Pages:Notability (fiction)''' covers the ] of elements within a work of fiction.
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	==Defining notability for fiction==
	This guideline is an extension of two excerpts:

	From ]:
	<blockquote>Misplaced Pages articles on published works (such as fictional stories) should contain real-world context and sourced analysis, offering detail on a work's development, impact or historical significance, not solely a detailed summary of that work's plot. A brief plot summary may be appropriate as an aspect of a larger topic.</blockquote>

	From ]:
	<blockquote>A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in ] that are ] of the subject.</blockquote>

	For articles about fictional concepts, ''] ]s'' cover information such as sales figures, critical and popular reception, development, cultural impact, and merchandise; this information describes the real-world aspects of the concept, so it is ''real-world content''.

	Based on this reasoning and the above excerpts, fictional concepts can be presumed '''notable''' if they have ''received substantial coverage in ] secondary sources''.

	==Dealing with fiction==
	The following sections use the term "article" to encompass ], sub-articles, and ].

	===Notable topics===
	Topics within a fictional work (characters, places, items, concepts, etc.) are covered in the article on that work of fiction, with two exceptions:
	*If these concepts are individually ''']''' and an ''']''' causes the article on the work itself to ], then the concepts are split into succinct ] that maintain such an encyclopedic treatment.<ref>
	] is widely known beyond the original work he appeared in, with plenty of information available, including newspaper coverage and literary analysis.</ref><ref>
	The article on ] contains significant real-world information about the character; he has his own article.
	</ref> However, material should be organized into complete articles and ]; the existence of numerous small sub-articles can lead to disorganization and unbalanced coverage.
	*Sub-articles are sometimes born for technical reasons of ] or ]. Even these articles need real-world information to prove their notability, but must rely on the parent article to provide some of this background material (due to said technical reasons).<ref>
	], ], and ] were evolved from lists of terms, characters, events, and concepts into articles with both real-world content and an ].
	</ref> In these situations, the sub-article should be viewed as an extension of the parent article, and judged as if it were still a section of that article. Such sub-articles should clearly identify themselves as fictional elements of the parent work within the ], and editors should provide as much real-world content as possible.

	===Non-notable topics===
	Discussions for articles that do not provide evidence of the notability of their subject should be guided by the following principles:
	*The article is '''kept''' if the subject has received substantial coverage in reliable secondary sources <u>and</u> this coverage is ''explicitly'' referenced in the deletion discussion or is used to add real-world content to the article. Articles about fictional topics that are notable should be given time to develop.
	*The article is '''merged''', in whole or in part, to another article to provide better context.<ref>
	The summarized a portion of the plot for the game '']''. Relevant information was merged into the plot synopsis of the ''Galactic Battlegrounds'' article, and the ] link now redirects there.</ref> If material is merged, the article ''may not be deleted'' per the ]. In-universe information should be condensed or removed as necessary, and meaningful real-world content should be integrated. If the article becomes too long and a split would create a sub-article on a subject that is not individually notable, then the content should be trimmed.
	*The article is ''']ed''' to a suitable wiki (such as or its ) if the above options are unavailable.<ref>
	The '']'' lists on , , and had no chance of showing notability, so they were transwikied to the Xenosaga Wikia and redirected to the main ''Xenosaga'' page.
	</ref> The article is then ] to the most relevant article to preserve edit history for the transwiki.
	*The article is '''deleted''' only if the above options are either redundant, unavailable, or inappropriate. To avoid inefficiency, editors should only nominate articles that clearly fall into this category.<ref>
	] was ] because it failed to include the substantial real-world information required to show notability. The information was already available on Wookiepedia and a merge was considered unnecessary, so deletion was the suitable option. It has since been created as a redirect to ], but the edit history has not been restored since no information was merged.</ref>

	Avoid creating new articles on fictional topics that lack substantial real-world content (and an ]) from the onset. Editors must ''prove'', preferably in the article itself, that there is an availability of sources providing real-world information by: providing hyperlinks to such sources; outlining a rewrite, expansion, or merge plan; and/or gaining the consensus of established editors. Otherwise, the article will be subject to the options above. Place appropriate clean-up tags to stimulate activity and mark the articles as needing attention.

	==Relocating non-notable fictional material==
	], Misplaced Pages's sibling project, contains instructional and educational texts. These include annotated works of fiction (on the ]) for classroom or private study use. ], similarly, holds original public domain and GFDL source texts. See ]. One possible action to consider is to make use of all of the Wikimedia projects combined: to have an encyclopedia article about the work of fiction on Misplaced Pages giving a brief outline, a chapter-by-chapter annotation on Wikibooks, the full source text on Wikisource (if the work is in the public domain), and ] joining them all together into a whole. However, Wikibooks , so it is not an appropriate place to transwiki large quantities of in-universe material.

	Fictional material unsuited or too detailed for Misplaced Pages can be transwikied to the appropriate Wikia, such as and . Other sites, such as , may also accept material. Transwikied material should be edited to meet the guidelines of specific wikias; do not just copy and paste. The is a staging area for transwikied material and a place for non-notable fictional material that does not have another home; the original Misplaced Pages versions will also be stored there.

	==See also==
	* For examples of high quality fiction articles, see the articles that have been rated as ] and ].
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	==Notes==


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