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==Dominion of Canada==
It comes to my attention that a few other users beilieve that"Canada" is Canada's official name. I'll be straightforward... it is NOT. I am Canadian and my cousin is Paul Martin (the former PM of Canada and in my opinion the best PM yet although my opinion is biast). This is the most important role in Canadian politics. We are close and talk to each other often. I asked him about this once (after reading about your disagreements). He said that the Dominion of Canada is the official name for our great nation. I sincerely hope that you will change the article to the truth. Thank you for your time and concern.

CANADA RULES (I know this isn't really formal, but it is true and that's all that matters)

ROCK ON <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:That sounds a pretty cool reference to me. Do you think Mr Martin would jot a few lines for us, or give a reference we could use?--] (]) 00:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing! See if you can get your "cousin" to teach you how to spell 'biased'] (]) 22:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

great nation ? that's too much, canada is not that great compared to other european nations like Germany <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:16, 5 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Everyone lives in the greatest nation on earth! --] (]) 07:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Paul Martin? Canada's best PM? ] (]) 14:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

CANADA SUCKS (I know this isn't really formal, but it is true and that's all that matters) ] (]) 01:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


== Question on an Assertion re Dieppe and Stalin == == Question on an Assertion re Dieppe and Stalin ==

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Discussion of Canada's official name

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Dominion of Canada

It comes to my attention that a few other users beilieve that"Canada" is Canada's official name. I'll be straightforward... it is NOT. I am Canadian and my cousin is Paul Martin (the former PM of Canada and in my opinion the best PM yet although my opinion is biast). This is the most important role in Canadian politics. We are close and talk to each other often. I asked him about this once (after reading about your disagreements). He said that the Dominion of Canada is the official name for our great nation. I sincerely hope that you will change the article to the truth. Thank you for your time and concern.

CANADA RULES (I know this isn't really formal, but it is true and that's all that matters)

ROCK ON —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.231.58 (talk) 02:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

That sounds a pretty cool reference to me. Do you think Mr Martin would jot a few lines for us, or give a reference we could use?--Gazzster (talk) 00:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing! See if you can get your "cousin" to teach you how to spell 'biased'Homely (talk) 22:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

great nation ? that's too much, canada is not that great compared to other european nations like Germany —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.94.171.107 (talk) 05:16, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Everyone lives in the greatest nation on earth! --Gazzster (talk) 07:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Paul Martin? Canada's best PM? GoodDay (talk) 14:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

CANADA SUCKS (I know this isn't really formal, but it is true and that's all that matters) Travis T. Cleveland (talk) 01:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Question on an Assertion re Dieppe and Stalin

The text asserts that the raid on Dieppe convinced Stalin to wait until 1944 for the Western Allies to invade Western Europe.

This is a questionable statement. Dieppe did not change Stalin's behaviour or attitude in any respect. He continued to press the Allies for an invasion of Europe sooner rather than later. At the Teheran Conference in November 1943, Stalin pushed Churchill hard for a deadline for a cross channel landing; Churchill argued for landings in Mediterranean, which to him represented "the soft underbelly" of Europe; Churchill was mindful of the failure at Dieppe, and reluctant to cross the channel.

Rather than affecting Stalin, who would have been indifferent to large numbers of British, American, or Canadian casualties, the Dieppe raid simply demonstrated to the western Allies how difficult it would be to invade a fortified coast. The meticulous attention that the Allies paid to strength in numbers, logistics, deception and secrecy all reflect the lessons learned at Dieppe.

Please remove the reference to Stalin in the article on Dieppe; it is inaccurate.

Speaking of languages that are noticed

Punjabi should be writtin there as it is the 5th most spoken language there

Canadian French language in Canada

Which is the better article to link to in the context of the lead discussing Canada's two official languages? Canadian French is a brief article discussing dialects within Canada, while French language in Canada discusses the use of French in Canada. I strongly prefer the latter but I see it has recently been changed to the former. DoubleBlue (Talk) 17:05, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

'Canadian English' yet 'French language in Canada' seems a mismatch, no? Quizimodo (talk) 18:18, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Are you saying you don't like the titles of the articles? If so, bring that there. My question remains which article is more appropriate and useful to the reader? DoubleBlue (Talk) 20:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Not so much that, but I am curious as to why 'Canadian French' is a shell of what it should be given the topic matter. I have since observed quite the discussion over at those articles about the titles and article content. Change the link back herein, if you wish. Quizimodo (talk) 20:47, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Those two articles should be merged IMHO. GoodDay (talk) 22:27, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
I'd say merge both articles into a Canadian French article title which is more consistent with naming standards across Misplaced Pages. Pointless having two articles when one would suffice and makes more sense. Ben W Bell talk 22:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
You are both likely correct but that discussion belongs at those articles. The question here is which is best for the context here. DoubleBlue (Talk) 04:54, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

the fact that the mother tongue of canadians is only 59% or whatever it was is bullshit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.208.135 (talk) 18:47, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Population forumla

this automatically updates ONCE per day at 00:00 UTC & rounds to nearest hundred - an estimate with any more sig figs can only be either false precision or extremely temporary -- Please do not change formula without discussing on talk page

I am the guilty one. I apologize but I had trouble with the formula, so I took it out and put the population update in, hoping someone else would put the good formula back in afterwards. No attempt at being in bad faith. But I tried and tried finding all over the Wiki how to make formula and codes correctly as it seems every time I try to put a new code, it comes out bad. I'd appreciate your help referring me to a page where I could do it properly so I won't annoy you unnecessarily. Thanks. But one thing, why a population clock? It seems less accurate than the Stat Canada quarterly estimates. I believe the source of these estimates are the stats in each provinces. It seems better than using the rate of growth based on a date when anything could change a lot now from then. Ex: who would've thought Newfoundland would gain population? At the July 1st, 2007 based date, Newfoundland would still be declining in the clock now. Correct me if I am mistaken. Pieuvre (talk) 20:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


General information omitted

I read the Japan article very recently and this article gives very little in comparison. I know too little Canadiana to write it but if somebody can please give at least introduction articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.232.35.71 (talk) 01:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Change to Government Type in Infobox

I would like to change the Government Type in this article's Infobox to "Federal parliamentary constitutional monarchy". The current description is "Parliamentary democracy and Federal constitutional monarchy". My reasons:

  • This does not remove any links that are in the existing description, except for the old link to federal constitutional monarchy, which just redirects to federal monarchy which is an article that is now being revamped and may be deleted. Instead, my proposal separately links to federation and constitutional monarchy.
  • It avoids the redirect that is in the current description (Parliamentary democracy redirects to Parliamentary system)
  • It puts the description into one single phrase instead of two separate ones.

--thirty-seven (talk) 16:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I think the difficulty of saying (or reading) the single phrase outweighs the benefit from having more direct links. --Haemo (talk) 22:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
I agree. The long phrase is unwieldy. --Soulscanner (talk) 04:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Population density?

This page lists the population density ranking as 219th, but Canada appears as #229 in List of countries by population density. (Thavron (talk) 06:48, 23 January 2008 (UTC))

Redundancy

I've noticed that the last paragraphs in the History and Economy section are almost identical, describing Free trade, etc. The history section is long. Can we keep the references to recent trade arrangements under the economy section and remove them from the history section? I realize that these are historically important, but I think for the sake of space they go better under the economy section. --Soulscanner (talk) 05:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Vancouver skyline missing

How about a classic pic of Vancouver skyline and Ship in English Bay to illustrate Canada's largest Port under economy section? Love that town. --Soulscanner (talk) 09:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Sure, if you can find a free image of it. -- Reaper X 17:07, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I looked for one, but couldn't find the right one. There are many nice ones already on Misplaced Pages and on Flickr, but nothing that captures a) the skyline; b) ships in English Bay (showing it's function as Canada's busiest port); c) the mountain backdrop. That's how I think of Vancouver. There are pictures of the port, but somehow that doesn't capture it. I guess I'm asking if anyone found this. --Soulscanner (talk) 19:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


CANADA'S GDP

Canada's nominal gdp in 2006 was 1.275 trillion dollars not 1.089 trillion. It even says that on the page that the highlight links to. Toronto's metro population should be treated the same way Sydney, Australia, and American cities do, expanded to include at least its cma. metro Toronto has at least 5.8 million people. The golden horse shoe area around Toronto (area comparable to metro Chicago) has 8-9 million people. Also, Canada's nominal gdp should be given higher priority since it uses updated exchange rates. 2007 estimate is 1.407 trillion US dollars, 2008 is about 1.53 trillion US dollars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grmike (talkcontribs) 00:12, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

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