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Welcome

Welcome to the talk page . --Hu12 (talk) 20:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

WP:HUG.

You're welcome. · AndonicO 16:37, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! (eo)

Thanks for your help in removing spam from the Esperanto Misplaced Pages. If you need any favors or help there, please let me know! (I'm an eo-admin.) Regards, Yekrats (talk) 20:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Great to Know, I've requested Meta Blacklist of that link, you can view the local report Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#legambientecorato.it.--Hu12 (talk) 20:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

For the help sorting the mission grounds thing. --BozMo talk 22:12, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Good catch! ;)--Hu12 (talk) 22:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Help with whitelisting

Hello Hu12, I hope you are doing well. I was referred to a discussed at Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_28#Blacklist_of_digitpress and was hoping you could be of assistance. I am linking to a specific reference which is located at digitpress and it has recently been blacklisted by the spam filter. Could you please whitelist the specific link that is located at the Cuttle Cart page? I would like to retain that reference if at all possible. I thank you in advance for your consideration in this matter. Felix the Hurricane (talk) 22:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

All set, Its whitelisted. Thanks for the note.--Hu12 (talk) 23:02, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the revert on my talk page, it is appreciated. Cheers! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 23:11, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Check this edit out

An intersting SPAM threat if you ask me. What do you think? 156.34.231.56 (talk) 03:03, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Here's my thought on that.. --Hu12 (talk) 05:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

So that means it's heading into the black?

While I have your attention. Does the blacklist cover all inter-wikis or just the en-wiki? Reason I ask... a very long time ago I did a cleanup of a Led Zeppelin fansite link which was repeatedly added across many pages by a dynamic IP range. I asked Wiki alf for some advice/assistance on it... the website owner eavesdropped the conversation and basically said "go ahead and delete it... I will just keep adding it". I did a cross-wiki search on all 57 wiks and found the guy's link on all kinds of inter-wikis. SO... being the good Wikipedian that I am... I removed them all :) . Now, every week or so, I use the cross wiki search to find where he's been and clean him out. THANK JEBUS! that all Misplaced Pages's use the same button structure :) . I can't read Japanese, Korean etc... but I have a couple dozen edits on just about every Wiki in every language going just so I can rm this el vio. The user even tried masking his website by using a # & % type character string embedded into the link. Thankfully the crosswiki search still finds the original URL. The website is www.vjez.com. I just did a "global spam clean" the other day. And, as you can see from the latest crosswiki search, The world is still pretty much clean of him. But by next week... he will have spammed a dozen Wikis with his link. Is there any way to blacklist that site Wiki-globally? It would save my tired old fingers some work every work. :) . Although I don't mind serving Wiki in this way. The spammer didn't know just who it was he was p*ssing off when he made his threat eh? :-D 156.34.231.56 (talk) 11:52, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

There is a global blacklist which is used by more than just our 700+ Wikimedia Foundation wikis (Wikipedias, Wiktionaries, etc.). All 3000+ Wikia wikis plus a substantial percentage of the 25,000+ unrelated wikis that run on our MediaWiki software have chosen to incorporate this blacklist in their own spam filtering. --Hu12 (talk) 12:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Would the vjez link qualify for a global "f**k o*f" on that blacklist? 156.34.142.110 (talk) 13:31, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

One other question... even though I am just a lowly ol' anon IP... is it still OK for me to "clan up" with the Spam Project and put a template on my user page. Or would I be shunned and boo'd because of my "non-account" stance. 156.34.142.110 (talk) 13:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

To qualify for the global blacklist (or local for that matter) one needs to demonstrate that there has been abuse, document the abuse, provide the IP's and accounts associated with the abuse and provide diffs to the abuse( specificly for a global listing is providing diffs to the abuse over multiple Wikimedia Foundation wikis). If you look at the global BL talk page, you'll get the idea. A link search does not prove vjez was spammed over multiple wikis, as much of wikipedia content gets transcluded from one wiki to another. You'd have to go and look, document where it was added and by whom. As far as a template, IP's, unfortunatly are not considered userpages, someone will most likely remove it. I'm sure you have your reasons, but you should create an account. Wish you did have an account, because I wanted to give you a barnstar for the "sneaky external link" you reported to me earlier. --Hu12 (talk) 13:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I do have a user page... User:156.34.142.110. When I am roaming around the University from 1 faculty library to the next... my IP changes a lot. When I am at my desk... like I am now... my IP ... 156.34.142.110 is static... mine and mine alone. If you want to take a peek I already have several barnstars for who I am and what I do. I am also a member of a Wiki Project related to music and it's project template sits on my user page. I even have a sandbox and a talk page archives sandbox. If you need to contact me... I watch this Static IP page no matter what part of the planet I am in/on :D. Thanks for the info above.... seems like a real pain to doc all the spam history. I can just my wekely global cleanups a lot faster than I could document the history behind it. :D . Have a nice day! 156.34.142.110 (talk) 14:41, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

In that case, add the template! Left a comment on "your" talk page..;)--Hu12 (talk) 14:50, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

If you do ever decide to take an account, you don't need to change much. for example have a look at Sixtyninefourtyninefourtyfoureleven (talk · contribs) his/her sig is 69.49.44.11 ...--Hu12 (talk) 15:21, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the token of appreciation. I have been down the account road before. After rolling over 20000 edits with it... and watching a growing anti-anon movement at the same time... I decided that if Misplaced Pages was going to be the encyclopedia "anyone can edit"... then I was going to be "an anyone". I turned down over a dozen RfA prompts when I had my account. I've said it right from the start... no lofty goals... just a humble editor... and I don't need an account to do that. Over 30000 edits as an anonymous IP later... no regrets. I am who I am. Quietly editing in the "purity" of anonymity. Thanks again for the 'shiny'. 156.34.142.110 (talk) 17:53, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

ukinvest.gov.uk

I have taken up the spamming of these sites up with UK Trade and Industry. I have a role as a non-exec in Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform which gives me some chance but it isn't acceptable for a gov to behave in this way (albeit perhaps inadvertently). --BozMo talk 15:48, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for leting me know. Thought that was a little odd for a gov, but hopefully it can be sorted out. Keep me updated.--Hu12 (talk) 16:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Shaftesbury page

Thank you so much for locking it! These people just simply will not engage in rational discussion because they know they have only commercial gains. Thank you for protecting consensus. --Curuxz (talk) 16:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

It appears the "new IP" assaulting the page is a result of 86.130.11.251's recent block. --Hu12 (talk) 16:23, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Re - talk:Iar

Now to give Your talk-page some action!

1. WP:WIARM has had considerable support for some time, and is a robust well-written document.
2. The NbgDraft is essentially the "12words" plus WIARM, and I am glad that you approve, with others.
3. "Understanding IAR" has a lot of support ( and I like it), and, a catchy title.
4. I am happy to see a debate between competing essays for the prize of going up on the IAR page.
5. Of course, many will want JUST the "12words".
6. u:Misza13 has commented along the lines of "you're wasting your breath".
7. I am happy for this process to continue, having "fresh eyes" at the discussion page has been very helpful.
8. I hope that it is not seen , totally, as MY proposal, it is a generic proposal, and I would welcome others to run with the ball.
9. Any improvements, comments, etc. heartily welcomed, (though, if it drifted from WIARM, it would lose it's main advantage).
10. For now, I am leaning to UIAR, but the prior "consensus-support" for WIARM may be a deciding factor, or not.
11. My computer is from Noah's Ark, sorry if I a little slow on the update, sometimes.

Cheers, and thanks for visiting talk:Newbyguesses, it was a ball. --Newbyguesses - Talk 22:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I have drafted over the 'provisional draft' to be 'live' at Misplaced Pages:No firm rules. Is it worthwhile for discussion to take place at Misplaced Pages talk:No firm rules, I prefer centralized discussion at IAR. Cheers, let me know if there's any problemo's --Newbyguesses - Talk 03:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Have you seen this? --Newbyguesses - Talk 05:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Bit of archiving/reorganising at talk:IAR, currently (232,124 bytes) --Newbyguesses - Talk 07:19, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

It occurs to me that all "merge" considerations can be addressed by adding the 12words in at the top of WIARM, instead of the current 'motto'. In effect, the DRAFT. That is, the DRAFT would in that case supercede WIARM, (hubris comes before a fluff). Then, the See also section on WP:IAR can get cleaned up as well, I think. Are you getting this, or am I off-base? --Newbyguesses - Talk 09:09, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

True, adding 12words to WIARM may solve this.--Hu12 (talk) 09:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Following on from that, the "merge" debate concerning WIARM and UNDERSTANDING is off-track then. The correct "Merge" debate concerns *merging* WIARM with IAR, is that the go? --Newbyguesses - Talk 11:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

No, the WIARM edit is wholy seperate. The IAR merge into WIARM is the debate on IAR. Yes they look similar, but they are seperate. Don't confuse them or edit them as the same. I just made an edit to an essay (WIARM), thats all.--Hu12 (talk) 12:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Leaving aside that I am a bit groggy, been unwell and not on top of the "merge" debate, compare and compare these. --Newbyguesses - Talk 19:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, this and the other edit have eliminated ONE confusing merge debate. --Newbyguesses - Talk 20:04, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Slowly, but seems there is progress--Hu12 (talk) 20:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Slowly, yes. Now does this look good? The "provisional draft" has not changed much, but it needed a workshop page, I think. --Newbyguesses - Talk 21:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

You want something useful to do?

What's this nonsense all about? User:VigilancePrime/Archives/Gallery Vegetationlife (talk) 22:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Lip enhancement link removal problem

Hu12, I can't remove awfulplasticsurgery.com and cosmeticsurgery.com links from Lip enhancement article because I get a spam notification page about plasticsurgery.org links (which is a reference). While I think the links I want to remove are spam related (along with plasticsurgery.com and before/after photo blogs and physician referral "associations" ), I'm not sure how to deal with this particular edit. Flowanda | Talk 00:47, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

All set, just removed the http portion of the ref link. ;)--Hu12 (talk) 01:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...is it just me and my new Lazik eyes, or do you look 10 years' fresher? Flowanda | Talk 03:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Link question

Is there anyway for you to... en masse... rm the link to www.digitaldreamdoor.com. This is, essentially, a personal website for music and the website own has compiled his personal opinions into "best-of" lists which, in turn, have been used incorrectly on Wiki as a reliable reference... which it isn't. The site is also a link for sound sample and lyrics and other WP:EL vios. By my last search it appears 118 times on EN-Wiki. Whenever I come across it I take the time to rm it. Do you have the quicky-cleany-uppy tool to rm the links in one quick whoosh? 156.34.231.56 (talk) 21:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Have the same tools as you. Look in the history and find who added it.. then remove. ;)--Hu12 (talk) 22:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, at 118 adds it was probably stuffed in by 118 different people. I was actually surprised that there weren't more of them. I will just continue with what I am doing... deleting them as I see them. I should be done in about 5 years. I'll let you know when I am through. :D Thanks and have a nice day! 156.34.231.56 (talk) 22:19, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Looked at a few of the pages, and they were god faith additions, however doesn't mean they all were. ;)--Hu12 (talk) 22:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

"Asia Prez".

Good blocks, we've had enough spider from him. · AndonicO 03:31, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Wise old admin advice needed

Hey, advisor on admin matters! Gregor Mendel is in need of semi-protection again due to IP vandalism. See Talk:Gregor Mendel#Semi-protection again.3F. Since I have made content edits to the page, am I too involved to semi-protect it? There are practically no good-faith IP contributors, unfortunately. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 05:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Protection due to heavy or obvious vandalism, would never be considered a conflict. If it is a content dispute or edit warring over content your involved with or added, then you want an outside and univolved opinion. Simply having had edited the page in the past, or it being on your watchlist should not be an conflict. I support your decision to protect the page, be sure to add a protection template to the page (I prefer {{pp-semi-protected|small=yes}} ). --Hu12 (talk) 09:28, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for review. I did the semi-protection. EdJohnston (talk) 16:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

No trouble, any time. ;)--Hu12 (talk) 16:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Reverting

Why did you do this? http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Orange_juice&diff=196989600&oldid=196958577 Graevemoore (talk) 21:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

That was an error, however your edit here, was not reverting vandalism.--Hu12 (talk) 21:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Indeed not. But I want to know what made you revert my edit in the first place. I would like to know (In a neutral sense; strip the idiomatic connotation) what you were thinking when you did it. Graevemoore (talk) 00:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

What to do in case of persistent 'occasional' vandalism?

You blocked 76.169.219.16 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • WHOIS • RDNS • trace • RBLs • block user • block log) for the first time a bit over a week ago.

09:54, 1 March 2008 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) blocked "76.169.219.16 (Talk)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 24 hours ‎ (Edit warring)

If you check their contributions they have a extensive track record, and only with the article Romano's Macaroni Grill‎. They came back today and the mass deletion didn't get noticed for awhile. So... if a 24 hour block didn't phase them (indeed, they probably didn't notice if they waited a week), what next?

BTW: do people ever publish their watchlists, just for the humor of the strange combinations therein, like Macaroni Grill and Yam? Shenme (talk) 04:40, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Your 2 weeks ought to clue them in that they _can_ be blocked if they continue. Thanks. Shenme (talk) 06:34, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Should catch their attention and is preffered to protecting the page. Thanks--Hu12 (talk) 06:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

RFA

Hi Hu12. I have been asked a few times (which is always kind of flattering so thank you for asking :) but I'm fairly reluctant. I feel like this is kind of a selfish attitude but RFA looks like a lot of hassle and grief for very little return to me. Not to mention that adminship seems to be a fairly thankless role (so thank you btw - I do appreciate your efforts). If there was a shortage of admins I'd be willing to to help the project (I nearly applied when we were having difficulty getting action on the blacklist but fortunately others stepped in). But at the moment if I need something doing that needs admin tools I just ask and it seems like there's normally someone around. -- SiobhanHansa 09:04, 10 March 2008 (UTC)