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Is Steinway the name of a place? The article seems to suggest that, but it's hard to tell. Is it is a place name, then where is it? I would have expected this article to be about the piano makers, but I suppose that might live at ] or something if this is indeed a place. I keep meaning to expand the piano related entries, not got round to it yet. --] Is Steinway the name of a place? The article seems to suggest that, but it's hard to tell. Is it is a place name, then where is it? I would have expected this article to be about the piano makers, but I suppose that might live at ] or something if this is indeed a place. I keep meaning to expand the piano related entries, not got round to it yet. --]

Don't think it's the name of a place. It's just one Herr or Mister Steinway and his extended family.

The article contains claims that would seem more appropriate in an advertising spiel - e.g. saying that their pianos are better than any others, for whatever reason. I doubt if this was ever the case.

Quote from The Economist: 'Since 1853, artists have praised their instruments. Claude Debussy remarked that piano music should only be written for Bechsteins. For Wilhelm Furtwängler, Blüthner was best. “Blüthner pianos can really sing, which is the most wonderful thing you can say about a piano.”'

One thing missing is the Steinway Artist programme: this was a scheme set up after WWII with the effect of virtually forcing every concert hall to buy a Steinway.

Another quote from The Economist: "Meanwhile, Steinway thrived in America, establishing a near-monopoly in concert grands. Most attribute Steinway's success to clever marketing as well as to the quality of its pianos. (...)

Steinway is also skilful at marrying pianists to the brand, and there is an official roster of about 1,300 “Steinway artists”, from Alfred Brendel to Billy Joel. Musicians must own a Steinway to become a member of the club; in return, the nearest local salesroom will provide a piano wherever they are performing."

I just don't think Wiki should say or imply that one brand of piano is superior to all others.

--] 14:26, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

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Is Steinway the name of a place? The article seems to suggest that, but it's hard to tell. Is it is a place name, then where is it? I would have expected this article to be about the piano makers, but I suppose that might live at Steinway Company or something if this is indeed a place. I keep meaning to expand the piano related entries, not got round to it yet. --Camembert

Don't think it's the name of a place. It's just one Herr or Mister Steinway and his extended family.

The article contains claims that would seem more appropriate in an advertising spiel - e.g. saying that their pianos are better than any others, for whatever reason. I doubt if this was ever the case.

Quote from The Economist: 'Since 1853, artists have praised their instruments. Claude Debussy remarked that piano music should only be written for Bechsteins. For Wilhelm Furtwängler, Blüthner was best. “Blüthner pianos can really sing, which is the most wonderful thing you can say about a piano.”'

One thing missing is the Steinway Artist programme: this was a scheme set up after WWII with the effect of virtually forcing every concert hall to buy a Steinway.

Another quote from The Economist: "Meanwhile, Steinway thrived in America, establishing a near-monopoly in concert grands. Most attribute Steinway's success to clever marketing as well as to the quality of its pianos. (...)

Steinway is also skilful at marrying pianists to the brand, and there is an official roster of about 1,300 “Steinway artists”, from Alfred Brendel to Billy Joel. Musicians must own a Steinway to become a member of the club; in return, the nearest local salesroom will provide a piano wherever they are performing."

I just don't think Wiki should say or imply that one brand of piano is superior to all others.

--Tdent 14:26, 9 September 2005 (UTC)