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Fethullah Gulen

Please help this article achieve some sort of NPOV and stability; just go through the recent edits to get an understand of the kind of sanitization going on. I am having difficulties with philscirel (talk · contribs) and 76.181.224.82 (talk) Could someone check for sockpuppets? --Adoniscik 15:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

If you have evidence of sockpuppetry, you can file a report at Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets. --BelovedFreak 11:53, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually the problem is very much ongoing. NPOV issues are widespread. --Adoniscik 19:39, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

More Eyes please

Please could some other people have a look at Pushkin House. I'm in the middle of a content dispute which comes down to me placing a notability tag (more than once) and another user repeatedly removing it. I may very well be in the wrong and just not be reading the article properly but, I don't want to edit war or end up with WP:OWN accusations. I'm not planning on going back to the article again until a 3rd opinion can be obtained. Thank you. Jasynnash2 (talk) 08:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

List of shopping malls in the Southern Hemisphere

Does anyone else think this article is somewhat pointless and probably unmaintainable ? CultureDrone (talk) 08:45, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Comment I agree that unless it is a list of notable shopping malls and that information is referenced properly that you are probably correct. Although bringing up more specific concerns on the talkpage of the article might be better (why you feel it is "somewhat pointless and probably unmaintainable" for example. Jasynnash2 (talk) 13:53, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

• NOTE: The page has been proposed for deletion. Fleetflame 00:52, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I get some help understanding the policy regarding reverts and talk pages

Greg Land (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I'm working on references for the Controversy section of the page for Greg Land, and a user keeps deleting the section. I don't want to break the 3 reverts rule, but he is not using the talk page so I can't even have a basic conversation with him (he wrote an argument against the section existing on the page itself rather than the talk page).

I've shortened the section and I want to add more references to be sure the point is well-established, but I've already had a lot of edits in the last 2 days so I'm trying to avoid breaking rules about reverts and/or ending up in an edit war with 'scottfavor', what is the appropriate process? Jack Fool (talk) 00:28, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for coming here. Sometimes, it helps to allow a little time to pass. Once the heat of the moment has gone, things are a little clearer. I think you're familiar with WP:3RR, and reliable sources are always important. You might try posting a message at the other editor's talk page, too. Cheers, --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:37, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Requesting Editor Assistance (as 2nd step in dispute resolution)

A number of editors and I have been trying to post information to the Virginia Military Institute page. The information we are trying to post is from a neutral source, the US News and World Report college rankings for 2008. This information was first posted on 7 February 2008 by user:Pikepk1 with appropriate and full citations. In the intervening 166 days, it has been reverted 41 times. 38 of these times has been by user:Rillian who claims it is POV and who has bounced it against the WP:PRESTIGE guideline. On two separate occasions, user:Rillian has also violated WP:3RR in this edit war, first at 14:41, 19 February 2008 and then again at 16:46, 22 April 2008.

Obviously, we disagree. The current state of argument/discussion/dispute is posted on an administator's talk page at: User_talk:El_C#Virginia_Military_Institute and on the Talk page Talk:Virginia Military Institute. The former link has some history on the dispute, including a reversion history. Talk:Virginia Military Institute/Archive 4#Rankings has some archived historical discussion on this topic between two of the parties. The administrator user:El_C has fully protected the Virginia Military Institute page and asked the parties to go back to the Talk:Virginia Military Institute for further discussion. Since this has not worked in the past, I would like to move up the dispute resolution ladder of WP:DR and ask for Editor Assistance in this dispute.

Thank you.

98.204.199.179 (talk) 13:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, thanks for posting here. Looks like you did the right thing by stating your position at the talk page. I'd suggest you allow a couple of days at least for any other interested parties to express an opinion. Who knows, some discussion might lead to a mutually agreed outcome. I realise you'd like to make this happen quickly, but there is no deadline! I'll add the page to my watchlist. Let's revisit it in a few days' time. --AndrewHowse (talk) 14:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

NPOV in Egor Lavrov article?

I am looking for help in dispute resolution for edits pertaining to an individual's article (Egor Lavrov). Although the edits I made were to approach NPOV, it appears as though every edit has been reverted by the creator of the page. Any recommendations for negotiation to convince the individual that these are not attempts to vandalize the article would be appreciated. special4k4 (talk) 14:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Thanks for posting here. It looks like User:Registrator1 has been showing some WP:OWN-ish behaviour. It also looks like the page could do with some better support for its notability. I'll drop a note on Registrator1's talk page and we'll see if that helps. --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Make sure you don't remove the references, though. In this edit, you did some fact tagging and removed some external links, but I think the information needing sourced was in some of those. I changed the tag to {{nofootnotes}}. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 22:20, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all of your help AndrewHowse and JeremyMcCracken. The links removed either did not provide any information (e.g., http://www.lavroff.com/), were dead links (e.g., http://rest.ee/journals/xakep_spec/039/006/1.php), links requiring registration (Misplaced Pages:External_links#Sites_requiring_registration) (e.g., http://zoek.volkskrant.nl/artikel?text=jegor%20lavrov&FDOC=0&SORT=date&PRD=10y&SEC=%2A&SO=%2A&DAT=%2A&ADOC=0), or appeared to be uncited linkspam (WP:LINKSPAM) (e.g., http://www.pravdasushi.com/, http://www.tattoolizator.com/en/index.html). Since my edits and revisions, more apparent linkspam has been added (e.g., http://elavrov.livejournal.com/ and http://tattoolizator.blogspot.com/) and a number of non-English links have been added (WP:NONENG), which I cannot verify (because I do not read the language).

The NPOV issues have not been addressed and it seems as though this may be a WP:AUTO. Any additional assistance in verifying this would be appreciated. special4k4 (talk) 15:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I've done a bit of cleanup of the language and started adding footnotes. I'm really not sure how reliable some of the sources are though.--BelovedFreak 18:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Can't correct error on a protected page

High Lane (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The entry for 'High Lane' ssays the village is on the Peak Forest canal. It isn't. It isits on the Macclesfield Canal (the Peak Forest canal is a few miles away). I've tried to edit the page but it is protected and I just go round in circles trying to work out how to correct the entry. Help ! Henry Keswick —Preceding unsigned comment added by Henry Keswick (talk • contribs) 14:51, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I'm guessing that you're referring to High Lane? It's not protected, in the sense used here which means that only admins can edit it. I don't see any edits to it under your user name, although you might have edited it without logging in. Perhaps you could come back here with a bit more information about what you tried to do and what happened? --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:02, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

problem with another editor

ScienceApologist is deleting the content, references, and images from the process equation article because they were placed there by me . He dislikes my edits on Talk:WP:Fringe and is trying to retaliate. Need some assistance with the article.

Another example of his non-constructive edit is here where he put back the invalid link, only because valid one was placed by me.

Lakinekaki (talk) 19:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for posting here. I can see what ScienceApologist is doing, but beyond edit summaries I don't know why. Please add more info to your post if you can show that you know why, otherwise it looks like you might not be assuming good faith. On the first diff you cited, you hadd added some text about creating 'bios' or 'infinitation', neither of which make sense there. The rest of your edit might or might not have been useful, but you don't help your case there. On the second diff the url did look like it might not work, and ScienceApologist used an edit summary describing your edit as good faith. You then reverted, with a somewhat confrontational edit summary, and that version stands. Please try to assume good faith, and realise that we can all make mistakes. --AndrewHowse (talk) 20:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Huh?! What are you referring to here with 'infinitation'? I was quoting cited articles. Whether it makes sense or not to readers is another issue. Scienceapologist used false statements in edit summaries to justify deletion of the content on process equation article, and when he realized that didn't work, he switched to ad hominem arguments. In second case, SA didn't test URL, but had actually assumed a bad faith and that I would place 'messed up' URL and had reverted my edit without bothering to click on the link and see where it links to. He also started editing few other articles that he saw in my contributions list -- therefore he finds some interest in my edits, and somehow his edits tend to be deletions, often with no explanation or with false excuses. Lakinekaki (talk) 22:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, this edit appears to be ScienceApologist's first reversion of you in that article, and you added the words 'bios' and 'infinitation'. Whether or not it makes sense to readers is a huge, core, issue; if your editing doesn't make sense to readers then what value does it have? As for the url, it looks like a good faith error to me. Such things happen. As for the rest of your accusations, I'm not going to go searching for examples to support you. You'll need to cite specifics. --AndrewHowse (talk) 23:06, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

You really expect to understand a mathematical article from edit difference, without looking at images, and references that were deleted along with words 'bios' and 'infinitation'? Lakinekaki (talk) 23:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

No, nor did I do that. All I'm suggesting is that if your edits use made-up words then they'll probably be reverted. --AndrewHowse (talk) 00:11, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

My edits don't use made-up words. If you read the cited papers, you would find those words there. I am confused why you offered to 'help' when you are not really trying to? SA first deleted the reference where those words were used, and than he deleted those words. You are attributing 'making this up' to me without even bothering to read the article and its references. Thanks but no thanks for your help. Lakinekaki (talk) 00:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I guess I don't think it would be useful to other readers. Happy editing, --AndrewHowse (talk) 00:39, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't think that, for example, today's featured article is useful to me, nor other readers, but I don't go there to delete stuff I don't like. Lakinekaki (talk) 00:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

A different user is now reinstating ScienceApologist's edits, with the summary "general fixes". Could be a sockpuppet or meatpuppet. I don't remotely understand the subject of this article, so I can't really give an outside opinion of the diagrams. I'd recommend the Mediation Cabal or Mediation Committee. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 22:30, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Mobile Caller ID

it exists, the information is on my talk page.

I am fully disclaiming that i represent the entity that owns the patent.

I have posted the relevant information on my talk page.

Please add the relevant information at your discretion to the CallerId wiki page.

Thank you

MCCSteve (talk) 19:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for posting here. Is there anything that establishes the notability of the invention? Y'know, non-trivial coverage in multiple reliable sources? Thanks. --AndrewHowse (talk) 20:06, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Does "Hot damn, I want that" count as a notability criterion? In all seriousness, though until this gains mainstream notice I would say it at least deserves a mention at Caller ID. L'Aquatique 03:14, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

How to include company information in an article

Dear Sir/Madam,

I created the article title “IAPsolutions (former DCI)” including company information and this was deleted. However, I have seen very similar articles (e.g. “Buongiorno”) in the Misplaced Pages, and I don’t really understand the difference between these two articles and why mine was deleted.

Could you please clarify this ?

Best regards --Qswi3021 (talk) 10:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for posting here. It looks like IAPsolutions (former DCI) was deleted twice, once for being advertising and once for making no assertion of notability. I can't see the deleted content, so I'm going to guess that it didn't make clear why the company is notable, and perhaps didn't have sufficient reliable sources. Please read the guidelines linked, if you haven't already, and then decide if the topic really is sufficiently notable to be included. If you think it is, then try to modify the content so that it meets the guidelines and then post it again. Feel free to leave another message here if you need help. --AndrewHowse (talk) 13:37, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Copying to Wiktionary

I've noticed that there are a number of articles in Misplaced Pages tagged as needing copying to Wiktionary (i.e. those in Category:Copy to Wiktionary. There seems to be a backlog, which is where I'm confused. I know there is a manual process to move articles (Help:Transwiki), but I thought the tag initiated some sort of automatic move, and didn't require further intervention (other than cleaning up/deleting the transwikied articles). Have I misunderstood the process, or is there a problem with the Misplaced Pages -> Wiktionary transwiki ? CultureDrone (talk) 11:45, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

That's what I thought as well. After all, the template says "automated". Template talk:Copy to Wiktionary seems to suggest that User:CopyToWiktionaryBot does this. It sure does look broken- no contributions from it since 6 May 2008. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 22:56, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I've taken this to the Administrators noticeboard for further action. CultureDrone (talk) 12:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Moshe Dovid Tendler

Moshe David Tendler (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have a long running feud with someone who is likely a Tendler student or family member. My opponent seeks to canonize him and continually deletes my request for sources (Which, had his claim regarding Tendler receiving ordination from some of the great sages of the past generation been true, it would have been stated in an abundance of places.) Instead of posting a source, he deletes my request for a citation. He continually post the content of particular Tendler responsa was is not germane to the profile, and is in fact a commercial for hods.org which has no place in the biography. This person wishes to paint Dr. Tendler as the sucessor to his father in law and continually deletes this fact as well as my 2 references to Igros Moshe, where Reb Moshe forbids the translation of his responsa. I posted a link to a website, that link gets deleted as well. If you look in the history, you'll see that I have commented on the modus operandi of this editor who has a serious aversion to the truth. He cannot be banned because he signs on a single time, edits Tendler, than deletes his profile. I have documented all of my statements, all I want is the truth to be told. Misplaced Pages is not supposed to be science fiction.pikipiki (talk) 13:33, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

And neither is it supposed to provide you, or anyone else, with a soap box. If you want to call the subject of an article a liar, you're probably better off not editing the article at all. Also refrain from characterizing your opponent as seeking to canonize the article subject, and stop making tendentious speeches (such as this) on the article's talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 09:50, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I have edited User:Pikipiki's post above to remove unsourced contentious material per Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons. Please read that policy before making any other statements about living people. As for the article, you might want to try a request for comment to get other editors involved who may have knowledge in the field. Or the talkpages of relevant Wikiprojects such as Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Judaism.--BelovedFreak 12:06, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Sargasso

i am giving up on Misplaced Pages. I have tried to add articles that would be of interest to other users, but they are being deleted before I can even contest them on the talk pages. these are also being deleted.

No wonder Misplaced Pages is so innacurate - your 'administrators' are rubbish!!!

Sfcpres (talk) 14:17, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Sorry you feel that way. One way of addressing your concern would be to ask an admin to move the deleted content to your sandbox, at User:Sfcpres/sandbox and work on the page there. If you decide to do that, then please come back here and let us know; we can advise you on how to meet the standards at Misplaced Pages. Cheers, --AndrewHowse (talk) 14:28, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

NPOV thing

I don't really know how to do it, but this article reads like a love letter to the person the article is about. Sounds like the POV of one of his staffers or something. Just wanted to bring it to attention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Leland_Yee —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.227.212.234 (talk) 20:45, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing it to our attention; I'll look into it, and I'm sure the others will too. In the future, you can place the {{POV_check}} template on any article (don't forget to discuss on the talk page!) and someone will check its neutrality. Fleetflame 01:07, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

• NOTE: Leland Yee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Fleetflame 01:09, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Branded Concept Development

I am trying to post an article about my company Branded Concept Development, but the past three times I've tried its been deleted. I changed a bunch of the content to make it more Misplaced Pages friendly; however, now its been deleted again and I can't even make the page again. What should I do?

Smr47 (talk) 23:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC) Spencer

• NOTE: See Deletion Log. Fleetflame 01:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, it looks like the article was deleted several times because various editors believed it was being used to advertise your company. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopaedia, and not an advertising service. Articles need references to independent third party reliable sources. The article also needs to show how its subject is notable. I would recommend you have a good read around Misplaced Pages's various policies and guidelines. HOWEVER, because you are trying to write an article about your company, you have a clear conflict of interest. Editors are strongly discouraged from creating articles about themselves, their companies or things they are personally involved in. You should wait for someone else to decide that the company is notable enough to need an article. Why don't you look around Misplaced Pages and edit some other articles about things that interest you? --BelovedFreak 09:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Articles "Miss Pakistan World" and Sonia Ahmed

Dear Editor,

In the past two months there has been a deletion of two articles: "Miss Pakistan World" and Sonia Ahmed Both articles were written well and with nuetraliuty but some USERS kept on refering to controversies which were not a major part of the event.

Can you please do something about these two articles.

Thanks --Sonisona (talk) 08:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

If you think that deletion was improper, you can appeal it at Misplaced Pages:Deletion review. -- Hoary (talk) 09:25, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

adding external links

Hello, I am looking for 2 wiki-answers. Yesterday i added some expertises or studies by religious scholars in PDF to a wiki-article on Dianetics, but today they weren't there anymore. Could you explain this to me?

What can i do sothat they stay?

Thx, Taodeptus —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taodeptus (talk • contribs) 17:39, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you and another editor or editors have differing opinions on this. It appears that you made some changes, the other(s) made further changes, and now you seem to have reinstated some of your earlier changes. There might be more history to it, but that seems to be the recent history. It would be better to bring this up at Talk:Dianetics and reach consensus there before making changes to the article. That usually results in an enduring improvement and avoids edit wars. Please consider that this can be a contentious topic, and that your relatively narrow editing focus will imply to some editors that you have a particular agenda. I don't suggest that you do have an agenda, only that you should tread cautiously. Happy editing, --AndrewHowse (talk) 17:55, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Posting dispute

Misplaced Pages - You are incorrect. You claim to uphold a neutral point of view, yet you outright celebrate and promote the artists of the Pirates of the Caribbean ride attraction, and you then celebrate and promote the Pirates of the Caribbean movie, but you refuse to follow through with the artist Royce Mathew and his lawsuit in regards to the Pirates of the Caribbean movie. A lawsuit against the Walt Disney Company was filed in United States Federal Court and it was in regards to Pirates of the Caribbean movie. This story was feature all over the world. GOOGLE it. Royce Mathew is also listed on IMDB.com website, which IMDB is listed on Misplaced Pages itself. The story of the lawsuit is important news and is factual. You call the additional history/facts posting to the Pirates of the Caribbean listing as "vandalism", which is completely wrong on Misplaced Pages part. To be neutral and present the facts surrounding Pirates of the Caribbean movie and such, you must include this important matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Disneysuit (talk • contribs) 19:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Please read Misplaced Pages:Verifiability, a wikipedia policy that all articles must follow. The website www.disneylawsuit.com does not meet our standards for a reliable source, which is why your edits have been reverted. SHEFFIELDSTEEL 19:33, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

After less than 24 hours of edits, Disneysuit (talk · contribs) has been blocked indefinitely for disruption and threats. See this section at WP:ANI for more details. —Whoville (talk) 01:00, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

You Should Go Ahead

I created a stub for this music artist several months ago and added two clear references to show verifiability. The current edit does not follow wiki guidelines (references were deleted, there is no internal linking, and material added is not attributed). Not exactly a sockpuppet edit, and unfortunately the edit was made by an anonymous user, but I am concerned that someone with a vested interest in the band may have edited the page. What's best to do in this case? Altlusa (talk) 20:40, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I believe you're referring to this edit. This is a clear copyright violation of their myspace page (http://www.myspace.com/ysga). I undid that copyright violation and added a warning to their user talk page. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 20:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Misquoting

Someone has put in a couple of references, changing slightly the name of the page being linked to. It's not really a big problem where it appears (and I can tell you where this is), but my question is general. Is there a rule on Misplaced Pages about not changing a direct quote or the title of a linked article? One might say there shouldn't be a need for such a rule, but it would be good to be able to point to it, if it exists. Thank you. (I'll watch this page.) --Hordaland (talk) 21:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Could you clarify please what you're identifying? It seems that you're describing something more subtle than vandalism, but I'm not sure I understand. Thanks! --AndrewHowse (talk) 22:08, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

OK. I wouldn't even call it vandalism, just a user who would prefer that the rest of the world should use terminology approved by him/her.

See: MOSMED, Talk page, discussion at allopathic. See also, if desired, more discussion on the Talk page of Comparison of MD and DO in the United States.

We figure that there must have been formulated a rule about this kind of thing?

(I'm now going to be "away from the computer" for some hours. Isn't that how one says one is going to bed? It's well past midnight here. G'nite.) --Hordaland (talk) 22:51, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Mel Gussow article - apparent family edits, now real-estate promotion

Could someone please take a look at Mel Gussow and Talk:Mel Gussow. This article about a journalist who died three years ago has a history going back to at least 5 September 2007 of what I would call a slow-motion edit war between apparent family members who each have a favorite version of Mom's maiden name, Grandma and Grandpa's first name, Dad's middle name, Dad's religion and an opinion on whether or not a brother or an earlier marriage should be mentioned; and don't mind reverting away several months of legitimate edits to get it.

More recently, in assaying a general restoration and cleanup, I removed a real-estate company link that gave the family's street address in NYC when the subject died, calling it not relevant. Now editor User:66.108.95.8 has four times added the link back in, along with another link to a second real estate company, both supporting a new (and freshly invented, as far as I can tell) claim that Gussow owned and operated a real-estate agency as well as writing for the New York Times. I have reverted three of these and warned the editor on his talk page with {{welcomespam}}, a personalized message, and most recently {{uw-spam3}}. I am now out of reverts and would appreciate someone else taking a look at this. Thanks. --CliffC (talk) 05:11, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

The First Sex

A colleague of mine recently asked me to help lend my expertise in archaeology and anthropology to the Wiki article The Firt Sex, about the book "The First Sex."

I went to the article and tried to add several referenced statements, bib. references, and a picture.

Much of what I wrote was deleted, often with no explanation. At least one accurate statement was repeatedly changed into a grossly, laughably inaccurate statement (I'd say I tried to change this statement back to its accurate form at least half a dozen times).

Although my picture was clearly related to the content of the article, it was deleted again and again. And even though a note at the beginning of the article said the article needed a picture, those who deleted my picture did not replace it with anything. (Today I notice that note is gone -- along with the note saying the article is in dispute)

My bibliographic references -- most of them from university presses, or other highly respected publishing companies -- were deleted again and again.

A direct quote about the book, by a well-known and well-thought-of author, was deleted with no explanation -- again several times.

Frankly, the entire experience was a nightmare. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Athana (talk • contribs) 11:46, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Especially the part where you started saying that all of the people who opposed you must be "virulent males" and obviously were proving the inferiority of their gender. What a nightmare! --Jaysweet (talk) 00:49, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Darwin Frank

Please see Darwin Frank. The history of this article is confusing and looks like a lot of nonsense, but I'm not sure how to get it deleted, if that's what should happen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.191.143.10 (talk) 16:27, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

USS Silversides SSN 679

I attempted to edit this page with factual public knowledge regauring its first trip to the North Pole in 1981 and it's participation in operation Urgent Fury the invasion of Grenada. It was promply deleted by MBK004. I can't figure out how to contact the admin that deleted it to resolve this. What exactly do you need for verification as both events are public record and documented by aquired military medals of it's crew. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Em1ss (talk • contribs) 02:49, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

The user who removed your addition has left a message on your talk page User talk:Em1ss you can either reply to them on your page or talk directly to MBK004 at User talk:MBK004 or it may be more appropriate to discuss the issue at the article talk page Talk:USS Silversides (SSN-679). Your entry was deleted because you did not cite a reliable source. MilborneOne (talk) 07:24, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Assistance with NPOV

Da Costa Syndrome talk pages

I would like some assistance with NPOV editors having a look at the current discussions on the Requests for comment page here , and the pages associated with it, to ensure that policies are being applied appropriately Posturewriter (talk) 11:07, 27 July 2008 (UTC)posturewriter

How do I announce that references hve been provided?

http://en.wikipedia.org/Pipeline_Bodysurfing_Classic has a note saying it needs references. I provided them. Now, how do I say they have been satisfied. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.237.51.104 (talk) 20:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Bodysurfinyon

NYU POLY Name edit

Having received direct mail July 23 from the newly named NYU-poly, and seeing that the name used by NYU-poly was not included in

http://en.wikipedia.org/Polytechnic_Institute_of_New_York_University#Name

I made the following edit:

Direct Mail, beginning July 2008, was mailed from:
NYU * poly
POLYTECHNIC INSTITUTE OF NYU
55 Broad Street, New York, NY, 10004

and it referred to itself as NYU-POLY

It was reverted within moments.

I am an NYU grad, washington square campus, and am not trying to step on anyone's toes.

The fact is that the logo on the right side of http://en.wikipedia.org/Polytechnic_Institute_of_New_York_University supports the facts I edited into the article.

To list a series of names covering over 100 years and then not include the one that the article uses for an illustration is to take away from the credibility of the editor and, by extension, of wikipedia.

Please intervene and ask the superuser/editor to included the facts I originally keyed in wherever he/she sees them as best placed. Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.236.102.73 (talk) 23:13, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

As far as I can see from the article and the institutions name is the Polytechnic Institute of NYU and NYU-POLY is just a marketing name. I would not be appropriate to add to the list of names as it is not really a change in official name. You tried to add the block of text above which was not really suitable for were you placed it and the postal address is not really relevant to an encyclopedia please note that NYU-POLY is listed in the intro as one of the titles. Suggest you bring up the matter at Talk:Polytechnic Institute of New York University and somebody may help and suggest a better place to mention it as a marketing name. MilborneOne (talk) 12:12, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Link to non-relevent page

I am trying to correct an improper link on this page http://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_North_American_named_passenger_trains_%28D-H%29

There are four links to this page http://en.wikipedia.org/Detroit_Express. This page is about a Detroit soccer team and has nothing to do with named passenger trains.

How can I edit the links to direct to a new page(s) for the passenger trains. These corrected links should also appear in red.

CarlFidy (talk) 04:26, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I have corrected the links for you, suggest you have a look at the page to see how it was done, the links now point to Detroit Express (passenger train) a format that has been used on other named trains in that article. MilborneOne (talk) 12:02, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Usertalk, threats of banning

On July 23, 2008, user ChrisP2K5 made edits to my talk page threatening blocking if I continued to make what he believes are "disruptive edits." I left a comment on his talk page explaining the edit I made and really didn't care enough about my original edit to change back his edits or get into an edit war with him.

Anyway, over the past several days I've received more comments on my talk page from presumably other users who are goading me into reporting ChrisP2K5 for his behavior because (after reading their comments on my page and previous threads on ChrisP2K5's talk page), he is apparently under close watch by moderators. The additional comments on my page came from two I.P. addresses that have no other edits logged in through Misplaced Pages. (71.72.160.133 and 70.14.69.136)

To me, the original issue is just small potatoes, but I wanted to bring the additional edits and the complete situation to your attention because it appears as if I am about to be put in the middle of a feud between ChrisP2K5 and other users who want him banned. Can you offer some assistance in helping me remove myself from this larger feud? Sottolacqua (talk) 18:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Appropriate to link to a blog?

I am a teacher at a school which has an article on Misplaced Pages Public Academy for Performing Arts, and I find myself in an editing war with one of my students Shadowsdriftwho insists on listing a scurrilous blog on the links part of the school's wikipedia entry. The problem with the blog is that it contains information that is, on its surface, true, but when you dig deeper or check the facts, you find out that they are false or are distortions. The blog was used by a faction of disgruntled employees to get rid of our principal and to harass me. Every time I delete the link, it goes back up. I want to reason with these people, but they are really unreasonable, and this particular student is particularly maddening. He uses his sister's computer at UNM 129.24.22.99 IP 76.18.86.33 IPto do edits so that the 3RR doesn't apply. What now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.2.198 (talk) 22:32, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

(ec)No, as per WP:EL, it is not appropriate to link to blogs (except in limited circumstances that do not include what you have described). Second, you should avoid edit warring. Asking for help is the right step, and 3RR does apply. The link you've given though is red. Can you give the correct article title? That'll make it easier for others of us to find the article and help patrol it. Aleta 22:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

American Indoor Football Association

My name is Michael Mink Co-founder of this league and i want the truth to be on this page. What belongs to us should be there and what does not should not be there. The information is not all correct and it is hurting our business. We want the truth and only the truth!

Please help as soon as possible.

Thank you.

Michael Mink 727-470-4369

I've left a message on this user's talk page. Dayewalker (talk) 06:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

There is also an ANI thread due to the user's "legal threat" over allegedly incorrect info. Baseball Bugs 06:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

John Edwards ALLEGED affair.

I understand the need for the wiki community to keep wild accusations from being posted on various pages that have no citations or factual basis. Due to this, I understand deletion or prohibiting an "Affair" section under John Edwards or any other politician's page.

However, the topic has been addressed by publications outside of The Enquirer and picked up by the mainstream media. There are plenty of pages with "alleged" events listed. The editing of his page should allow for "Alleged Affair" at the very least. This isn't a "Johnny's brother's girlfriend's cousin's dentist's barber" report or allegation. It's a news story that has witnesses not employed by The Enquirer, and it's been broadcast on national television as an alleged affair. Whether or not something happened in a hotel room has yet to be proven/disproven, therefore it is ALLEGED. There are citations, articles, news clips, etc., outside of the tabloid.

I'm not a fan of tabloids and could care less what a politician does with his tallywacker, but this is just ridiculous.

Locking down an article and refusing to allow addition of an event that took place, ALLEGED to be a rendezvous with a mistress, is a blatant show of personal beliefs and politics influencing admin decisions. Not only that, it's selective censorship. Either you prohibit ALL "alleged" events on a wiki page, or you allow them with citations. And you either create a list of credited or discredited citation sources. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

At which time the controversy is resolved as either proven or disproven, then the words alleged should be removed and the section changed to reflect the changing facts.

Never before have I seen something frozen in time to allow for "the story to resolve itself". Senator whoever from wherever can fart in a bathtub and the citation can be a list of telephone alleging a maid heard it, but you don't allow this?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.81.18.5 (talk • contribs) 06:44, 29 July 2008

The above is "forum shopping", as there is already discussion at WP:ANI about this "alleged affair" and attempts to push that info into the Edwards article. The argument was made that Senator Craig was covered extensively, so why not this? Well, there is no "alleged" in Craig's case: He pleaded guilty to a crime while a sitting Senator. Edwards is not a sitting Senator, nor has he been charged with a crime. Tabloid news is not necessarily wikipedia-worthy. Baseball Bugs 06:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

editor posting my legal name on several articles talk pages

User:Hillman contribution history shows all the places where he placed my real name. I did not object when it was placed in 'bios theory' article, nor even in 'process equation', but he placed it also on 'asymmetry' and 'intermitency' and this is going too far, and violates several WP policies and guidelines. If you want me to, I can place here links to specific policies.

Anyhow, I request User:Hillman be warned or banned from posting my name anywhere else, and from writing about me, and even from stalking my edits. Actually, I ask here where and how can I request above.

Thank you.

Lakinekaki (talk) 16:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I'll take this to the admin's incidents noticeboard. As an active user, the User and Talk pages should not be protected. SHEFFIELDSTEEL 17:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

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