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I have added sources to the former's article page and to the latter's talk page. Would you please review these and consider removing your request for deletion on ] and your various tags on ]? ] (]) 21:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC) | I have added sources to the former's article page and to the latter's talk page. Would you please review these and consider removing your request for deletion on ] and your various tags on ]? ] (]) 21:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Greetings Mayalld. You will have remembered me from a discussion we've had on ] you marked for 'speedy deletion' a few hours ago. I just wanted to check for your response, and for opinions from other people, but have found that the article has been deleted already! | |||
I have heard a lot of bad stories about ] in Misplaced Pages, and I must say that to this day I have defended the encyclopedia. Now I worry I should not have. Not because it is a bad system, or that the idea is flawed. The problem lies with some people who build their online career by playing content policemen, but they lack proper traning and knowledge, and (whether knowingly or not) they then start abusing their power. | |||
:I've got two questions for you, if you permit: | |||
:* How does it feel to delete someone else's work if you are unsure it was a right decision, while you seem to have been just the only person who was of such opinion. Do you feel victorious? Do you feel you've done a good work? | |||
:* You clearly were not sure why you marked it for speedy deletion, and I was able to evidence you had circumwented the normal Misplaced Pages manners of dealing with possibly suspect content. I had cited my objections with due links to Misplaced Pages help pages, in an objective and rational tone. However, your answers have been a) cursory, b) not answering my questions, c) not reflecting on the reasons I have provided, and d) you kept changing reasons for your act and still refused to re-consider. Since you seem to be very knowledgeable and immensely sure about Misplaced Pages rules, could I hereby ask you to kindly tell me what can a common user like myself to legally (that is within Misplaced Pages's realm) protest against what have you done to my work today. I mean, what is the next higher instance for complaints of this kind. As a honest Wikipedian, I am sure you will gladly help me. I need to hear from other people who supported your opinion, and from the person who did the ultimate deletion decision. I really hope to come to the root of this issue because acts of suspected self-righteous policing should definitely be properly investigated in the interest of keeping the Misplaced Pages project sound and alive for the future. | |||
:Thanks in advance and best regards, --] (]) 20:37, 7 August 2008 (UTC) |
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Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Sasha Nacevski
Author blanked the page, causing a non-admin closure due to speedy deletion {{G7}}. Cheers! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 14:23, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Speedy Deletion of Dylan's Couch
Please do not delete the Dylan's Couch article. I posted reasons on its talk page.
-Keith☺ 15:48, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Speedy Deletion of Ergohuman
Can you give me a reason why its tagged for deletion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Niceday2008 (talk • contribs) 12:08, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- Certainly. The article is not encylopedic, and serves no purpose other than to sell chairs. Mayalld (talk) 12:12, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
The Aeron page does nothing but promote it. Look all im doing is adding content, which bits do you want me to remove. I have a few chairs i want to add (such as the enjoy, the brant, the nefil, the liberty, freedom, contessa and mirra). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.119.7 (talk) 14:28, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Please reply to me as i dont think that this is at all fair. How on earth is it advertising? am i saying "buy now at $xx.xx"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Niceday2008 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not considering other articles, I'm looking at this one. The fact that other poor articles exist isn't a reason for yet another. Misplaced Pages reflects notability, it doesn't confer it, and this article doesn't demonstrate any notability. It is also seriously unbalanced. It isn't an impartial account of the chair, it is a puff piece, talking it up. Mayalld (talk) 14:46, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Barbara Allen (singer)
I'm sorry, my friend! I did not mean to attack you in person. I'm sure you are a very friendly and gentle individual. I meant to attack the notability tagging which I thought was unfair. I still think that the article met the notability guidelines.
- The sources did address the subject directly in detail and no original research was needed to extract the content.
- The sources was reliable since I appended two references from at least one online encyclopedia.
Anyhow it doesn't matter anymore. Once more, I'm sorry you were offended, I didn't mean any harm! --Popiloll (talk) 09:16, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
- Not a problem.
- Notability tagging means that I am not satisfied that article has proved by means of the references provided that the subject is notable. It makes no value judgement as to whether the subject is, or is not notable. It just says there is more work to be done here. In cases where I am convinced that the subject is not notable, I would immediately tag for deletion.
- As things stand now,the article has been deleted, not on the grounds of notability, but because you, as the only substantial author, blanked it. If you believe that notability can be established, then we can ask the deleting admin to restore it. Mayalld (talk) 09:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
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two AfD nominations for List of defunct Pennsylvania sports teams
I'm curious why you felt the need to nominate the article twice. Stepheng3 (talk) 14:48, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
- I suffered a connection glitch, and it looked like it hadn't completed Mayalld (talk) 15:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
The University of Newcastle Chamber Choir
Page is quite different now. Would like to know your comment--Jackevans83 (talk) 11:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Have added sources, would like your comment.--Jackevans83 (talk) 02:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Please read articles before deleting
I posted a new article. It had five links to daily newspapers. HYou obviously deleted it without even looking at it.Elan26 (talk) 12:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)Elan26
or, you could just take down the PROD. the error, as I have written, was that I typed reference where I ought to have typed reflist. So the references did not appear. Therefore , you auto-deleted it. Simple mistake, easy to correct without making a lot of other people spend time reading the article.Elan26 (talk) 14:03, 7 July 2008 (UTC)Elan26
I don't know what a bot is, authorized or un-. What I do know is taht I posted a simple article about a ntoable blog, I posted the footnotes wrong, and it got a delete message pasted on it instantly. If you had read it, you would have seen that there were many footnotes and, perhaps, corrected my mistyping that made the many footnotes fail to appear under References. I assume that your posting of this delete tag was in some way automatic, becaue nobody can read that fast. I was not using automatic as a term of art, merely as an assumption by a non-technical person that things that hapen instantly are done by automotons of some sort not by persons.Elan26 (talk) 14:28, 7 July 2008 (UTC)Elan
Stop being a bully
I wrote you a note. I admit that I was annoyed to see a DELETE tag posted atop an article the instant I posted it. Okay. You didn't DELETE it you proposed it for instant deletion. I speak English, not Wikiese. So I wrote delete, not , well whatever the Wiki-speak work is, because the notice that appeared instantly read Delete. Then I wrote you a note asking you to take down the PROD. There, I'm learning to speak Wiki. Now you are threatening me with blocking? Are you serious? Is this the way Misplaced Pages works?Elan26 (talk) 14:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)Elan26
Perhaps
You could simply merge the little article I wrote into the Education Week page instead of writing angry messages on my talk page.Elan26 (talk) 15:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)Elan26
- That is a matter for the Misplaced Pages Community over the next 5 days. I note, however that you are continuing to make accusations about my behaviour on the AfD page. Please accept that you broke the rules by making unfounded allegations. You have two ways forward from here;
- Continue to make a fuss about it, and accuse me of bullying on account of my having legitimately warned you that your personal attacks were not allowed, and risk a block.
- Move on. Leave the AfD to run its course, cut it out with the accusations and assumptions of bad faith, and delete the warnings from your talk page, and nobody will care about it by next week.
- Your choice to make. Mayalld (talk) 15:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Livemercial
Hi. Just wondering if it may not be best to keep the "gentleman"'s comments on the AfD so the record is maintained of their actions for future people in case the whole thing pops up again. Jasynnash2 (talk) 15:29, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
- Done! If my restoration, and comment are wide of the mark, please feel free to amend Mayalld (talk) 15:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
- Looks fine to me and thanks Jasynnash2 (talk) 15:40, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
EDITING YOU PAGE
You where wrong when you deleted my article HOWEVER i was wrong when i edited your page with a threat, well i am sorry for editing with a threat but you should not have binned by valid article Jamez21 (talk) 11:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
SO COLD
what give you the right to decide when my article is good enough to go on or not i read through ur stupid guidelines and then read them again. i didnt violate anything... so go get a life...
Laimnesis (name)
It even has a name day in both Latvia and Russia, Artlondon (talk) 20:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
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I was thinking that, instead of updating every SI unit article, we could put apart, as in, the SI System table wouldn't be updated and the extended system table would not include the original table. please tell me what you think.Caleb Levi Burns (talk) 16:17, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
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Mersey & Irwell Navigation
Hi Mayalld, Nice article. Just two minor problems, you've given two references by name and date only (and page no), e.g. Owen (1984); but what is "Owen"?.Pyrotec (talk) 20:56, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, a fair bit is ported from the MSC article, and I still need to do some reference cleaning. I'll fix it this week. Mayalld (talk) 21:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
SMS College Brahmavara
Please dont delete SMS College Brahmavara, article, i'm the one who got permission from Our collage to put the info from the website to wikipedia. ThanksNAvin Shetty Brahmavar 08:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Ma timi bina Marihaalchhu
Please donot delete it i have got permission from the director of this movie to make a wiki for it so please donot delete it. Thanks (NepaliBoy7 (talk) 09:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)).
XB Machine
Could you take a look at the new version of the article? --Itemirus (talk) 12:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- It is still only sourced from primary sources, and still does nothing more than regurgitate the claims of its creators as to how wonderful it is. Totally unencyclopedic. Mayalld (talk) 12:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Article for speedy deletion
hi
could you explain which parts of the Barrhead Travel article i should remove, there was no advertising intended when writing it Billrobsonbht (talk) 13:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Ashad Ali declined speedy
Hello, I declined the speedy deletion for this as playing for a national team asserts notability. Cheers, 20:12, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Don't know how I missed that! Sorry for the duff nom Mayalld (talk) 20:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- No prob. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 20:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/MBG Expense Management
I added some references to MBG Expense Management, and I do not think the tone of the article is unduly promotional. You may wish to review Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/MBG Expense Management. --Eastmain (talk) 21:30, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Regarding your speedy deletion tag on chair throwing
I removed your speedy deletion tag, the speedy deletion is not entirely justified. "Chair throwing" gets 116,000 hits on Google, and there are well-known chair throwing incidents (performed by Steve Ballmer, Bob Knight, among other people as well). This article also contains a history section, and still I'm not entirely sure how this article meets the critera for speedy deletion. You also reverted 4 of my edits and identified them as vandalism, obviously this is not a clear case of vandalism and shouldn't have been reverted with such a vague edit summary. Thank you. Officeworld (talk) 15:17, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Mahaul Theek Hai
I would apreciate your revisiting Mahaul Theek Hai. Using informations and sources brought forward at the Afd, I corrected the article format and added sources to show its notability. While it still needs work, I am hoping you might advise what else I may do. Thank you, Schmidt (talk) 03:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
IPEXL Search.
I don't feel that page meets the criteria for speedy deletion, and I also intend to fix it. And since I didn't create the page, I'm perfectly entitled to remove the speedy. Have a nice day. 203.194.16.90 (talk) 12:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- Again, I am perfectly within my rights to remove the speedy tag. If you insist on reverting it, I shall have to complain to an administrator. 203.194.16.90 (talk) 12:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- The fact that you appear to be indulging in drive-by !votes to keep on several AfDs that I have been involved in implies that you have an agenda here, and are voting on AfDs to make a WP:POINT. No matter, I won't revert again. Off to AfD it goes.
- Or rather, not, because it's already been deleted. Mayalld (talk) 12:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- You created the AFD for Willard C. Butcher? This is not my first time as editor, I am not sure why you cannot see my previous edits. I shall have to recreate "IPEXL Search" later. 203.194.16.90 (talk) 12:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- No, I found it interesting that you decided to !vote on another random AfD after !voting on two that I had created. I shall await the recreation of IPEXL Search with interest. Mayalld (talk) 12:34, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- I only see one, for the Nepali movie. Is Chair throw also yours? You seem very keen to delete articles. 203.194.16.90 (talk) 12:39, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, Chair throwing is mine. I am not keen to delete articles. I am keen to delete content that shouldn't be there. Mayalld (talk) 12:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- A perusal of your edits seems to indicate that almost of them are related to Afds, speedy deletions or warnings to users about deletions. Therefore, I find your statement that you are not keen on deletions to be rather dubious. 203.194.16.90 (talk) 12:43, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- I am keen on deleting junk, advertising, and all manner of stuff that doesn't belong here. Mayalld (talk) 13:35, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
River Arun
On 24 September 2007 you requested an image for River Arun, although it already had this image: Image:Stopham Bridge.JPG. Do you want another image for the article? Specifically of what do you want an image. Do any of these free images suit you: ? Please respond on my user talk page. Thank you.--Natl1 (Talk Page) (Contribs) 17:22, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
AfD for Ma timi bina marihalchhu
I commented on this AfD earlier, and I saw your discussion on the AfD with another editor. I have to be honest, and I've tried to assume good faith, but it looks like we are being trolled by a few editors. The claims of racism and the "holier-than-thou" attitude, plus the rather clever names leads me to think this is simply a bit of trolling. Just thought I'd advise you on it. Wildthing61476 (talk) 12:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Please don't speedy delete Mickyala Mowry
Please don't delete this demi lovato told mt 2 write it coz Mickyala is her friend--MarioKart1 (talk) 13:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Page (MCC cricketer)
I've replied on the AfD page but I suggest you read WP:ATHLETE and WP:CRIN. This man played two first-class cricket matches which means he is a notable sportsman. The fact that the article is currently a stub, pending further information, is entirely within the terms of WP:STUB. I would add that the article does not quote "one single source" but two and they are both impeccable. In future, if you have any doubts about a cricket article, write to WT:CRIC first. We in WP:CRIC have had to deal with numerous attempts like this one to delete our articles and we have never lost one yet because first-class players meet the terms of WP:Notability. BlackJack | 15:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- In this case, the impecable sources contain absolutely zero information about the person, and it is far from clear that this was a "first class" match. As far as I can determine, both sources are merely reporting the fact that the name "Page" appears on a scorecard. They both regurgitate the same original source. Mayalld (talk) 16:02, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Elegant. Good on you. --Dweller (talk) 16:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- CricketArchive lists the two games as major matches and that is the equivalent of the later first-class classification. There is another source Stumpsite which classifies both of Page's games as first-class, though it doesn't discuss individual players. Page is named on this ACS page which is a summary of Samuel Britcher's work (I suppose that source should be in the article). It is true that little is known of Page but this is the case with many early players because they didn't receive the same media attention as the current lot do. But it doesn't matter. The fact is that he played in two first-class matches and therefore he passes WP:CRIN and WP:Athlete. As such, any reader interested in early cricket should be able to look him up and see what is known about him. Besides, there is always the possibility that new data will come to light. BlackJack | 16:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- Just seen your gracious withdrawal. Thanks for that and best wishes. BlackJack | 16:37, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
You
Hello. That impressed me. I think you have adminlike qualities and think you're not far off being ready to be nominated for adminship. Are you interested? I'd suggest as a first step that you list yourself at WP:ER, if you haven't already. If you are interested, my first glance at your contrib history suggests I'd be prepared to nominate you in the not too distant future. --Dweller (talk) 16:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you! For the next couple of months, I am going to be rather busy (getting married), but after that, I would be interested in running for Adminship. Mayalld (talk) 06:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Redirecting to "churches"
Sorry for the trouble, I think "Churches" should have a small "c" and be "churches", and so I am redirecting it to List of Coptic Orthodox churches in the United States.
Is that right? Again, sorry for the scramble. ~ Troy (talk) 20:12, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- Okeedoke, I think we should leave it as is. Thanks, ~ Troy (talk) 20:13, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, since it's a title, the c should be capital, but in the intro, it is generalized and should be small. There, now I have made a decision. I hope you're fine with that :) ~ Troy (talk) 22:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
FUN RUINER
All I want is a page for my ultimate soccer manager team, i'm sure wikipedia can afford the bandwidth —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlanOvens (talk • contribs) 20:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Dollar Sweets dispute
Hi, you have added a NPOV tag to the Dollar Sweets dispute article I have just published, without outlining which parts you consider do not conform to the NPOV guideline. I assure you that I considered both the employer and union viewpoints and the general ramifications for industrial relations in the article and tried to write the article from a NPOV. Can you please outline your concerns either on my talk page or the article's talk page? Thanks. --Takver (talk) 06:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Mayalid
You are σμήγμα! Why do you tag people who vote against your AFDS! σμήγμα! 210.87.17.46 (talk) 07:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
MICKYALA MOWRY
Hi i'm mickyala mowry why did u speedy delete my article??? I was in a commerical i should at least have an article.--MarioKart1 (talk) 15:46, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't. I just proposed it for deletion
- It was deleted because an admin agreed that you aren't notable
- You shouldn't write about yourself. You aren't an impartial writer on the subject, and frankly it's pretentious
- Misplaced Pages policy says tat appearing in a commercial doesn't make you notable.
- Mayalld (talk) 15:48, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
B2X subpage
Hi. I just got a message saying you requested my user subpage be speedily deleted. I was told in order to create the article eventually I could create a subpage and edit it as necessary until it was ready to be proposed as an article on Misplaced Pages. Would please explain to me why you have requested a speedy deletion? Ahf1286 (talk) 16:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- The idea is that in a user subpage, you are free from the threat of deletion for such things as not having sources. That doesn't mean that you can simply recreate the blatant advert. Start with a blank page, and add content, without creating an advert. Better still, leave it to somebody without a conflict of interest to write about the company. Mayalld (talk) 20:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- I think that you should not just assume that someone has a conflict of interest and automatically request that what they write should have a speedy deletion. And how can I fix the article so that it will not qualify for your speedy deletion. I think instead of just tagging it, you can suggest how it can be changed, which is what I'm trying to do. I added it as a subpage so that I could make the proper edits that I needed on wikipedia. This was the suggestion I was given. There are also other pages on wikipedia wih the same type information that do not have any problems. I just feel like I would like to have someone explain what is wrong with that I have written. Ahf1286 (talk) 20:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- OK, I withdraw the assumption that you have a conflict of interest.
- You need to write the article as a neutral observer, with information that both favours and criticises the subject. The article as it stands is not a good starting point, as any resulting article will inevitably be an advert tweaked to make it less of an advert. Start with a blank canvas, read some of the wikipedia policy pages and advice, then start afresh with the article. Mayalld (talk) 20:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well I have looked at other articles about companies such as this, like alibaba which only gives information on the company, and does not include criticism towards the company. I do not understand why I could not follow that same type format. I am trying to take out any sentences that may sound even remotely advert to you or another wikipedia editor, but I do not see why providing just facts about the company would not work. Ahf1286 (talk) 20:52, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- The fact that other articles have issues is not a valid argument for allowing another problematic article. We can't deal with all the problems today, and some articles come under the microscope before others. Anyway, I will back off on this article for a week to give you chance to fix it. If it is still fundamentally the same after a week, I'll put it up at MfD. If it is rewritten to be neutral, the problem will have vanished. Mayalld (talk) 20:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you. I am not saying that these other articles have issues, I'm merely stating that there are other articles only state company information and do not seem to have this problem.If all these other articles are allowed to be on wikipedia with information and not favoring or criticizing the company, than why not this one. Ahf1286 (talk) 21:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- The fact that other articles have issues is not a valid argument for allowing another problematic article. We can't deal with all the problems today, and some articles come under the microscope before others. Anyway, I will back off on this article for a week to give you chance to fix it. If it is still fundamentally the same after a week, I'll put it up at MfD. If it is rewritten to be neutral, the problem will have vanished. Mayalld (talk) 20:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well I have looked at other articles about companies such as this, like alibaba which only gives information on the company, and does not include criticism towards the company. I do not understand why I could not follow that same type format. I am trying to take out any sentences that may sound even remotely advert to you or another wikipedia editor, but I do not see why providing just facts about the company would not work. Ahf1286 (talk) 20:52, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- I think that you should not just assume that someone has a conflict of interest and automatically request that what they write should have a speedy deletion. And how can I fix the article so that it will not qualify for your speedy deletion. I think instead of just tagging it, you can suggest how it can be changed, which is what I'm trying to do. I added it as a subpage so that I could make the proper edits that I needed on wikipedia. This was the suggestion I was given. There are also other pages on wikipedia wih the same type information that do not have any problems. I just feel like I would like to have someone explain what is wrong with that I have written. Ahf1286 (talk) 20:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Beamz (music device) and Jerry Riopelle
I have added sources to the former's article page and to the latter's talk page. Would you please review these and consider removing your request for deletion on Beamz (music device) and your various tags on Jerry Riopelle? Jwbeam (talk) 21:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)