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Please use edit summaries to indicate the changes you have made; does not indicate that you've removed the IDF from the info box. Instead you've used it to make a poorly founded accusation. You know better. ] (]) 05:15, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Mediation

Thanks for trying. I actually thought you had done a good job mediating thus far. I had asked for your assistance to act as a mediator after the mediation cabal had been unresponsive... it would appear they're very backlogged. Anyways, as long as the issue gets resolved I don't really care how, but thanks again. ← George 08:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Hrm, it would appear that after being indefinitely blocked as a sock puppet, the user is back as IP address 77.42.134.185, and has taken up a more aggressive revert behavior. Any suggestions? ← George 02:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Great, thanks! It's amazing, it looks like that user has used over a dozen sock puppets over the last year or more... talk about relentless. Anyways, thanks for taking care of this. ← George 02:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
...back again, as Monkaa (compare Monkaa's edits to 77.42.188.29's edits...) ← George 08:23, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Yup, they undid your last version again here, yet again. User also called me a "cunt", how nice. ← George 11:42, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Might you look into this?

DreamGuy, again. The Jack the Ripper article, again. Disruptively pushing edits without consensus, again. Incivility, again. - Arcayne () 17:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

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agudath israel etz ahayem

Why do you continue to edit the page on agudath israel etz ahayem with information that is not pertinent to the history. i am speaking as a member of the temple and a curious wikipedian.


Because other presidents have been awarded similar honors and to single out one president is kind of singling out one person. i would love to know how you know this information and why if it is so important why is it now on the synagogue's own website. also are you a member of this temple? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.73.135.119 (talk) 13:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

deleting my links

Dear Jayjg

i'm relatively new to wikipedia. I've spent time posting a link to the largest kosher certification agency in europe on several wikipedia sites. I've noticed that you have gone around and undid all my hard work. I'm not going around link spanning but have put a link on several relevant webpages that are relevant to kosher or kosher certification so i am really surprised by your actions. For all i know you might be working for another kosher agency but i don't know what i have done to upset you so much! Please can i respectfully ask you not to undo my work.

I await your response.

With kind regards Dari —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darimore (talkcontribs) 17:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

The reason I deleted the links is that they were generally not relevant to the articles on which you placed them. Please review WP:NOTLINK and WP:EL. Jayjg 02:45, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Dear Jayjg

I posted a link on the following pages 'Kashrut' and 'Kosher food certification organizations' amongst others. How much more relevant pages can one get?!!!

Please be fair and honest that's all i ask for. I hope you can LIVE AND LET LIVE.

I await your response. With kind regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darimore (talkcontribs) 10:56, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I never deleted the link from the Kashrut article, and it was you yourself who deleted the link from the Category:Kosher food certification organizations, because links don't belong in Categories. See this edit of yours. Jayjg 00:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Erich Feigl

Dear Sir/Madam, I was deeply dissapointed to see that the article I had satarted on Erich Feigl was eventually deleted per Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Erich Feigl, a victim in my opinion, of politics. I would like to make a case for why this was an unfair and unjustified deletion. There were two reasons given:

Fails WP:PROF

- Most of the references I had come accross had this title in front of his name.

- Europeans, especially Germans and Austrians tend to be rather fussy about the use of academic titles, so I was not compelled to investigate. (Example: Verzeichnis der Bücher von Prof. Erich Feigl)

- Most importantly, as soon as the title was challenged, I had removed (I can not verify this at the moment) the title from the article and promised to investigate it further. Unless it was added in later by someone, this condition of failure did not exist at the time of the deletion of the article:

It is a good question. All my references refer to his Prof. title and U. of Vienna, but I have not been able to determine further detail due to my limited German. I need to ask around a little. Any help would be appreciated.--Murat (talk) 15:18, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

- Unfortunately, I was not able to pursue this further.

Fails WP:BIO

- This is the argument that I found to be rather weak. First of all, it seems Erich Feigl was known enough to a number of the folks who were insistant on deletion. Their knowledge of him certainly pre-dated my humble article.

- He is mentioned in Misplaced Pages/German. Are we to consider Misplaced Pages a source "triviality"? Isn't there a contradiction here?

- A goole search yielded +12,000 hits. Assuming many of them are trivial and repetitive references, still I think this is a rather high number by any measure for a "trivial" personality.

- At Amazon, with a simple click, I was able to find 8 (eight) of his books. Three of them the same title translated and edited in different languages. His bio lists 16 books. This is certainly not an absolute measure, but it is there. Not that trivial by most measures.

- His really significant books are "Myth of Terror", which is translated to numerous languages, and gained him the negative attention of various ethnic and nationalistic groups, and the other is "The Kurds", which is one

of the earliest books to look into this topic in detail. "Myth of Terror" is what earned him the label "genocide denier", since it did not bow to the establishment. I read the book, there is no denial there, he has mostly focused on the sources of the Armenian terrorism and the other side of the story that is rarely told (thanks to efforts like this).

- His Misplaced Pages/German bio includes 60 or so documentary movies he made for TV. It was for Austrian TV mostly, which is not a trivial country in a not so trivial part of the World. That is a large amount of significant,

if not earth-shattering work by any measure. His interest was mostly Asian and Near Eastern cultures and peoples. He can be found at: MRC FilmFinder-Directory Filmography.

- For his work he was given "Austrian Science and Arts Medal" and "Vienna Golden Service Medal". I am not sure if I have the right translations, and I do not have more detail on this, yet.

- Let's review the details of WP:BIO:

''The person has received a notable award or honor, or has been often nominated for them.'' Condition met. See above.

''The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field.'' Condition met. See the above books and TV movies.

It seems that the argument for deletion is rather weak, and even contradicts the established Misplaced Pages criteria. More disturbing is the nature of the requests for deletion, which seem to be more politically motivated than a concern for the quality of Misplaced Pages content. Such targeted efforts to remove "undesirable" persons and events and data from the global information space is one of the reasons why some of this information does not seem to get the attention it should get. This is no coincidence.

I was also disturbed about the generous use, and acceptance it seems, of undefined lables like "genocide denier" and "crackpot" while deciding the merits of an article about him. I was also very happy to see that an experienced editor unknown by me took an interest in the article and cleaned up my clumsy editing. It did not last unfortunately. I really hope that you can help me restore this article and let the facts about it stand on their own merit and be subject to the usual Misplaced Pages scrutiny. I am mostly away from my keyboard till Sept. I hope I am given an opportunity to respond to the result of this appeal. I would welcome any other suggestions you can make in this regard.--Murat (talk) 22:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. As a new user I found the process described on the page referenced, for undeleting a little confusing. I would like to insert the proper heading and copy the above in there. Can you guide me please?--Murat (talk) 01:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I am embaressed to admit that I did read the instructions on the page, but still a bit intimidated: ...but look for the "BELOW THIS LINE" tag after the first paragraph, and paste in your request just below that). Then replace PAGE_NAME and UNDELETE_REASON in your addition with appropriate content. Your whole contribution is this single bracketted tag. The tag will create the proper section for you when you save the page, so you don't need to create a new header or do anything else... After I paste in the one line, then what does one do? Add in my discussion material under it? When it says ..your whole contribution... what does tha mean? Thanks.--Murat (talk) 02:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, thank you.--Murat (talk) 02:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

What exactly should I do now?--Murat (talk) 02:30, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Article: Zionist Occupation Government

Excuse me, but i'm going to politely ask you to refrain from removing my post on the article pertaining to ZOG. This is a 'free' wikipedia, and you are not entitled to promote racism.

I am a reliable source. The post IS from a neutral posture. I am offended as the article is insinuating that I am a racist, which I am not.

If you do not like the format by which it is written, I highly suggest, as a mature, professional administrator, that you find a format to use and a place to put the text. This has also been mentioned in the discussions page by another editor, to be sure.

Edit: The references will be found and forwarded to you.

Thank you,

Desol333 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desol333 (talkcontribs) 03:07, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


What is your problem? Why do keep deleting my posts in discussions on ZOG? I thought the discussion section was open to 'free discussion'? --Desol333 (talk) 06:01, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK

Updated DYK query On 13 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Beth Israel Congregation (Jackson, Mississippi), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

...and you can see here that there is a concern about too much US material on DYK and I can see by your nom that you are one of the perpetrators, therefore some balance needs to be struck...some australian synagogues may need articles written about them (these would be the most notable ones lacking currently) :) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


Temple Israel article

Thanks for your help organizing the Temple Israel article!WacoJacko (talk) 04:03, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I just wanted to compliment you on the quality of the other Synagogue articles you've written.WacoJacko (talk) 04:08, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

The Jewish Internet Defense Force

Hi Jayjg,

Just wondering if you could take a glance at when you get time. I think I've undone most of the damage CJCurrie did to it but it perhaps needs watching. Here are the diff of the edits they show referenced material being wiped (again sources I wrote or commented in - note that this is the same guy who removed all references to Zionism On The Web from Misplaced Pages without concensus and after discussion).

In this case the remove information described a Facebook group as antisemitic. He tried to make out that the claim the Facebook group is antisemitic was only the opinion of the JIDF (the topic of the article) by wiping supporting information. He then proceeded to add a "critisism" section which was entirely based on giving space to the Facebook group owners and sourced it directly to the Facebook group. This consistutes original research, and even then it only given the opinion of the group admins - which is about as far from a reliable source as one can get on the question of whether the group is antisemitic or not. All up I see the activity as both an attack me (again removing material related to my work from Misplaced Pages) and a PR job to defend anti-Israel material which in this case is also antisemitic. This is concerning. I've written to him and asked him not to stalk me or remove references to my work, but I doubt that will be effective. Anyway, that is a seperate issue from the article itself. On the plus side I found more RS stating the group is antisemitic... though these were all based on the original research I published and presented at the MFA's Global Forum.

I'm going to drop you an e-mail as well as I have two papers in for review that you may find interesting and am workign on a third you may be interested in reviewing before I submit it for academic peer review.

Keep well, and check your mail :) Oboler (talk) 14:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)