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:It's clearly ''not'' common except in contexts where unjustified ] are used, such as Misplaced Pages and ]s. I propose a comprimise, which violates the MoS in having two links in a disambig entry, but it seems necessary. — ] ] 14:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC) :It's clearly ''not'' common except in contexts where unjustified ] are used, such as Misplaced Pages and ]s. I propose a comprimise, which violates the MoS in having two links in a disambig entry, but it seems necessary. — ] ] 14:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
::I guess I could live with that. - ] ] 15:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC) ::I guess I could live with that. - ] ] 15:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:::It doesn't matter what YOU can live with, it matters that the disambiguation page do what it's supposed to do. ] (]) 16:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

If you Google '''JTR "Jack the Ripper"''' you'll see that it comes up fairly often. It's in titles, website URLs and etc. Disambiguation pages are supposed to disambiguate. Someone looking for JTR has a highly probably of looking for Jack the Ripper over any of the other entries here. Only mentioning Jack the Ripper as an afterthought for the John the Ripper entry is silly, because it suggests that JTR is only used for the software which the full name was based upon the killer instead of that JTR is used for the killer, which it is. If the rationalization for removing it was that it isn't "common" I have removed that part of the description. I would also caution you two to not be up to your regular shenanigans here, with tag teaming edit wars ignoring policies just to oppose something I put in there. I would strongly suggest you leave the info as it has been for years and not mess with it until a neutral set of eyes (ones not engaged in edit warring with me across multiple articles they never edited before apparently just for harassment purposes, as more than one admin has described the actions both of you have made in the past as meeting the definitions of) can have their input. My main question is why on earth you'd so strongly object to the listing here? It's a disambig page to help people get wehat they are looking for, if they aren't looking for Jack the Ripper they'll click something else. If they are, then great, mission accomplished. ] (]) 16:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

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Jack the Ripper?

Someone added that JTR is "a common abbreviation for...Jack the Ripper." Might I ask someone to illustrate how it is common, and perhaps where it is commonly referred to as such? A cite or twomight help a bit (here, not in the dab).- Arcayne () 15:12, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

It's clearly not common except in contexts where unjustified initialisms are used, such as Misplaced Pages and blogs. I propose a comprimise, which violates the MoS in having two links in a disambig entry, but it seems necessary. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 14:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I guess I could live with that. - Arcayne () 15:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't matter what YOU can live with, it matters that the disambiguation page do what it's supposed to do. DreamGuy (talk) 16:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

If you Google JTR "Jack the Ripper" you'll see that it comes up fairly often. It's in titles, website URLs and etc. Disambiguation pages are supposed to disambiguate. Someone looking for JTR has a highly probably of looking for Jack the Ripper over any of the other entries here. Only mentioning Jack the Ripper as an afterthought for the John the Ripper entry is silly, because it suggests that JTR is only used for the software which the full name was based upon the killer instead of that JTR is used for the killer, which it is. If the rationalization for removing it was that it isn't "common" I have removed that part of the description. I would also caution you two to not be up to your regular shenanigans here, with tag teaming edit wars ignoring policies just to oppose something I put in there. I would strongly suggest you leave the info as it has been for years and not mess with it until a neutral set of eyes (ones not engaged in edit warring with me across multiple articles they never edited before apparently just for harassment purposes, as more than one admin has described the actions both of you have made in the past as meeting the definitions of) can have their input. My main question is why on earth you'd so strongly object to the listing here? It's a disambig page to help people get wehat they are looking for, if they aren't looking for Jack the Ripper they'll click something else. If they are, then great, mission accomplished. DreamGuy (talk) 16:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

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