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Revision as of 04:01, 10 February 2004

Looks to me like this page needs to be updated to be brought into line with the current Mozilla Roadmap. Version 1.6 of the Mozilla Application Suite is currently out, and obviously the transition to Firebird has not yet been made. Unfortunately, I don't know enough of the specifics to update this myself, especially since the status of both products is in a state of somewhat constant flux. Anyone want to update this? --Adam Conover

Shouldn't this have been made by moving Phoenix (browser) rather than by a cut-and-paste? There's a fair amount of history at Phoenix (browser) that is now harder to get at. --rbrwr

Thinking about it, you are right. I remember when Chimera became Camino, I kept articles for the both the older and newer names. Rbrwr, If you want, feel free to go back to the last (Phoenix_(Browser) article and work from there. --hoshie

This probably is the least useful place to discuss this, but I feel that the incorporation of non-platform native UI is what will forever doom Mozilla/Firebird to geekdom, rather than mainstream acceptance. Mac users (for example) simply don't want Windowsy UI on their systems! They want what the OS provides. Anything that looks wrong will be forever branded a second-class citizen, no matter how great the functionality. Call it shallow, but there it is. Why the XUL stuff can't simply call up native widgets on each platform I don't know. GRAHAMUK 11:37, 27 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Three things:

1. Yes this is probably the least useful place to discuss this - discussion on Misplaced Pages which won't lead to an improvement in content is discouraged.
2. That aside, the first mistake I'd like to point out is that Mozilla doesn't have a "Windowsy UI". XUL is, by its very nature, highly skinnable, and many of the skins out there bear little resemblance to any OS I've seen.
3. Furthermore, the idea of calling up native widgets on each platform is exactly the purpose of projects like Camino, K-Meleon and Galeon. But obviously, once you start doing that (to a worthwhile extent), the program's not cross-platform anymore (in quite the same way - you can't just add support for a new platform with a few bindings).

- IMSoP 12:44, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)

"Others, however, have posited that Mozilla Firebird is not yet ready for mission-critical tasks."

Which others are these? The Mozilla.org page on Firebird says it, but that's different to unspecified third parties. - David Gerard 21:20, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)

What a pompous sentence. And anyway, what "mission" is any webs browser "critical" to? Seems to me the writer doesn't understand what mission critical means. Unless he happens to be trying to operate his nuclear powerplant via a java applet ;-) I think I'll just edit it out again, if nobody objects. Graham 02:37, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)

What is the background for the rename of this browser? The article just says "due to strong pressure from the Open Source community". Bevo 12:38, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)

There's some obscure open source database called "firebird", apparently. --Delirium 12:54, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)

Could we get a screenshot with the default Misplaced Pages theme instead? Using the non-default theme is a bit confusing, as it implies something about Firefox's rendering being different, when it's really just that the person taking the screenshot had a different Misplaced Pages theme set. =] --Delirium 12:54, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try and get another with the default soon. Dysprosia 13:08, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Might want to reduce screen size to 640x480 or reduce window size, so that the Firefox menu/toolbar is fully visible, yet image is small enough to view easily w/out scrolling. Looks like you have your screen set to 1024x768. You're not really needing to show off Wiki, just Firefox. --Scott. 01:39, 2004 Feb 10 (UTC)

Darn, shoulda read this before. Hang on :) Dysprosia 04:01, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)