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Hi Coren. Judging by the hour I guess you're not longer online. In case you come back, could you please reconsider of ] ? Hi Coren. Judging by the hour I guess you're not longer online. In case you come back, could you please reconsider of ] ?


Yes, calling someone an "idiot" is not precisely polite, and he was rather work up, but... isn't that the most normal of reactions to the way he appears to have been treated ? I actually think that he was civil enough given the circumstances: his work of creating encyclopedic articles on topics most of us wouldn't be able to write about (and please consider also the time that he had invested in it) was being hampered by administrators deleting his articles ''within hours'' of being created, and giving him warnings for not being gracious about it. - If you ask me, it was not Peter Damian the disruptive one. Yes, calling someone an "idiot" is not precisely polite, and he was rather work up, but... isn't that the most normal of reactions to the way he appears to have been treated ? I actually think that he was civil enough given the circumstances: his work of creating encyclopedic articles on topics most of us wouldn't be able to write about (and please consider also the time that he had invested in it) was being hampered by administrators deleting his articles ''within <s>hours</s> minutes'' of being created, and giving him warnings for not being gracious about it. - If you ask me, it was not Peter Damian the disruptive one.


Is it really more important to be polite at all times, not matter what, than to help and make things as easy as possible for our most valuable contributors, those who actually writte the encyclopedic content ? Is it really more important to be polite at all times, not matter what, than to help and make things as easy as possible for our most valuable contributors, those who actually writte the encyclopedic content ?
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Thank you for removing the block but my objection remains. See the comment on my talk page, and on ]. I don't see any similar admonishment of the camp guards for their behaviour. , again note it was not ''within hours'' that this behaviour by Stifle began, but ''within minutes''. There seems a distinct double standard between what the guards are allowed to do (pretty much anything) and what is permitted of the inmates. But as you see from my talk page, I am no longer an inmate. ] (]) 08:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC) Thank you for removing the block but my objection remains. See the comment on my talk page, and on ]. I don't see any similar admonishment of the camp guards for their behaviour. , again note it was not ''within hours'' that this behaviour by Stifle began, but ''within minutes''. There seems a distinct double standard between what the guards are allowed to do (pretty much anything) and what is permitted of the inmates. But as you see from my talk page, I am no longer an inmate. ] (]) 08:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry. I corrected the ''hours'' to ''minutes''. Timeline . Regards, ] (]) 23:57, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


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Moffat mountain rescue

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copyright

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Swiss made software

Hi Coren

The page "swiss made software" has been deleted by the bot because of copyright reasons. As I am the owner of the copyright and granting the right to publish to Misplaced Pages, I'd like to re-create the deleted page.

Can you please advise me, what I need to do to get the page re-created?

The label has now been adopted by 70 companies. "swiss made software" has become an international movement and label for good software, made in Switzerland. Please google "swiss made software" for references. The reason of the reuse of text from http://www.swissmadesoftware.org/members.php is due to the fact that it reflects the law for the usage of "swiss made" and needs to be exact wording. See also swiss made for similar phrasing.

Best Regards, --Haldimann (talk) 12:09, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Please read the guide to requesting and formalizing permission to use copyrighted works on Misplaced Pages. Note that, in addition to copyright requirements, the article must still comply with notability guidelines, advertising prohibition and avoid conflicts of interest. — Coren  12:29, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. In this case, I'll work through the the guide to requesting and formalizing ... and will then give it another try. --Haldimann (talk) 10:24, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

World Changers/IWU Controversy

First, thanks for tagging the note on my talk page. Much appreciated. Secondly, I have rewritten a (smaller) section on this citing my entry to the actual book in question. Could I trouble you to look at it? Indiana Wesleyan University#World Changers Eastshire (talk) 13:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate you working with me on this. As far as sourcing the adoption of the book for the class, I'm a bit stuck. It appears IWU is trying to fly this under the radar. I have confirmed this two places: via e-mail with the Alumni Department, which I don't think is citable, and by browsing through the IWU bookstore which shows the book as required. Unfortunately, I can't directly link to that page because it is generated after making java script selections. Do you have any advice? Thanks. Eastshire (talk) 14:22, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I saw it on Misplaced Pages but it wasn't sourced so I wanted to verify it :) Eastshire (talk) 14:34, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

BetterTrades page deletion

This page, which I created yesterday, was summarily deleted. This is my first page on wikipedia that I've started myself. I saw that other companies in the same industry were keeping pages, and I saw that other, smaller companies had pages with less content and fewer references. I cited those competitors and other pages in the talk page of the BetterTrades article. I also did some independent research, and the terms "bettertrades" and "better trades" in March got a combined total of around 16,000 searches in google alone. The term "bettertrades," unmistakably the brand name and registered trademark of the company, was 6,500 searches. I think that these thousands of people searching for information about this company need a good, neutral, non-marketing source of information about this relevant, huge, and growing company.Westcoastbiker (talk) 14:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)westcoastbiker August 28, 2008

I also discussed this issue with JohnCD (talk · contribs), the user who marked the article for notability issues. After a conversation on his talk page, he directed me to you, as the one who deleted the page. As the writer, I'd be fine with citing more independent sources, which I described to JohnCD. I also have no problem with changing the wording to further neutralize the content. I can soundly demonstrate that the quality, neutrality, and notability of this article are consistent with Misplaced Pages's standards. Regards, Westcoastbiker (talk) 17:30, 28 August 2008 (UTC)Westcoastbiker

Would you want me to restore the page to your user space so that you can work on it first before trying to post it? This way you can make certain that it complies with our inclusion guidelines before someone else fainds fault with it and deletes it. — Coren  17:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

It would be fantastic if you would restore the page to my user space. How would I go about getting an Administrator or equally experienced person to edit it before I post it so that I can be sure that it won't arbitrarily be affected immediately when I put it back up?Westcoastbiker (talk) 18:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)westcoastbiker

I'm not sure if you restored the BetterTrades page for me as you said, since I can't find it in my account. If I'm missing something important, or if you're just delayed, I'd like to know so I can be sure about the progress. I'm trying to stay on top of the stuff I do here. Thanks.Westcoastbiker (talk) 13:28, 29 August 2008 (UTC)Westcoastbiker

I'll restore it for you sometime during the day when I get a minute. — Coren  13:48, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Excessive bail

I got a message from your Bot that it was copied from a Yahoo article. I copied much of this from another WP article. It is possible that (a) the original article had been copied from the Yahoo article, or (b) Yahoo copied from us. In any case, I promise to fix it by cleaning and re-wording ASAP. Bearian (talk) 16:29, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Nathaniel Benchley

Hello: I uploaded the photo of Nathaniel Benchley again, and I changed the license on it to make it available to use on Misplaced Pages. The photo is from his estate, who gave permission for it to be used online here. I hope this satisfies all requirements. K72ndst (talk) 18:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

editing Global prescience page

While making the entry for global prescience into a sub topic of prescience, I created a second instantiation of the same page mistakenly. It was dumb mistake and I wish to only have on page which I would like to continue working on with others. Neodante (talk) 20:15, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Your bot is accusing me of copying things I didn't copy :P

It told me to inform you about it. See here. The page it links me to contains lots of names of Misplaced Pages articles - rst20xx (talk) 00:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

eye on Acid attack

Hi Coren, I'm sorry to bug you with this but my on-wiki time is extremely limited at the moment and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind casting an eye over Talk:Acid_attack#Motivation_of_Attackers and the companion reverts . Would you mind keeping an eye on all parties here? I have already pointed out what I consider the problems with the disputed section and solutions to them. Do contradict me if I'm wrong here. Also there may be a connection to the current problems at Human rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran where some parties are also involved--Cailil 14:20, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

PS I sent you an email about another matter a while ago, did you get it?--Cailil 14:20, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Yoga Month

The page you said I copied http://www.atoneyoga.com/events/eventcalendar/?eid=601 is page that has the press release posted about the event. the idea of a press release is to get more awareness to an event - hence why i created a wikipedia page. a wiki is a means of spreading news. Loveobx23 (talk) 14:31, 29 August 2008 (UTC)loveobx23

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Peter Damian's 31 hs block

Hi Coren. Judging by the hour I guess you're not longer online. In case you come back, could you please reconsider your block of User:Peter Damian ?

Yes, calling someone an "idiot" is not precisely polite, and he was rather work up, but... isn't that the most normal of reactions to the way he appears to have been treated ? I actually think that he was civil enough given the circumstances: his work of creating encyclopedic articles on topics most of us wouldn't be able to write about (and please consider also the time that he had invested in it) was being hampered by administrators deleting his articles within hours minutes of being created, and giving him warnings for not being gracious about it. - If you ask me, it was not Peter Damian the disruptive one.

Is it really more important to be polite at all times, not matter what, than to help and make things as easy as possible for our most valuable contributors, those who actually writte the encyclopedic content ?

I have posted to Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard#Epistemic Theory of Miracles, to discuss it futher there. - Regards, Ev (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll comment there about it, then. — Coren  00:35, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Glad you're still with us, Coren. - Ev (talk) 01:29, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for removing the block but my objection remains. See the comment on my talk page, and on WP:AN. I don't see any similar admonishment of the camp guards for their behaviour. , again note it was not within hours that this behaviour by Stifle began, but within minutes. There seems a distinct double standard between what the guards are allowed to do (pretty much anything) and what is permitted of the inmates. But as you see from my talk page, I am no longer an inmate. Peter Damian (talk) 08:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. I corrected the hours to minutes. Timeline here. Regards, Ev (talk) 23:57, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

World Federation of United Nations Associations Youth

Hey,

the CorenSearchBot has just deleted my article about the World Federation of United Nations Associations Youth because it is basically an identical copy from the official WFUNA Youth's web page. This is because I am the author of the website. My name is Dania Röpke, you can conntact me for varification at or coordinating.committee@gmail.com.

Best, Daniko (talk) 15:49, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Right to vanish

I'm invoking this now, please. User Peter Damian (the talk page has already been deleted) and also my other (legal) account, User:Hinnibilis. Thanks. Peter Damian (talk) 21:40, 31 August 2008 (UTC)