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Confusion over definition of Great Neck

This article attempts to simultaneously describe "Great Neck" as the term is commonly used locally—that is, the nine villages and adjacent unincorporated areas—and the Village of Great Neck on its own. This is confusing. Some information in the article refers to the entirety of Great Neck, some only to the Village of Great Neck. The article does attempt to use the term "larger Great Neck" to distinguish between the two, but this is only partially successful. By the way, I don't remember ever hearing or reading the term "larger Great Neck" when I grew up there or on recent stays there. I first read it in Misplaced Pages. Locals, local media, and local transportation facilities generally use "Great Neck" to mean all of Great Neck, and "Village of Great Neck", "the Village", "the old Village", or "VGN" if they want to specifically reference the Village of Great Neck unless the context is clear.

Unfortunately (for these purposes), there is no unified political or legal definition for Great Neck as a whole. It is defined by the union of many government districts and corporations. While most of its borders are well-defined, there may be some contention over its eastern border south of the Long Island Railroad (LIRR). Furthermore, the U.S. Census does not recognize Great Neck as a community. There is no census information for Great Neck as a whole and one can't even easily derive this information, because the census aggregates part of Great Neck (the area near and including Great Neck Manor) into the data for Manhasset.

Thus "automatic" computer programs and database searches generally return information about the Village of Great Neck when searching for "Great Neck, NY". For example a search on http://maps.google.com/ yields a centroid at the intersection of Fairview Avenue and Middle Neck Road (i.e., in front of the Village School). This is a very good result for the Village of Great Neck, but not for Great Neck as a whole. I'd suggest the centroid for Great Neck as a whole be located on the Middle Neck Road bridge over the LIRR platforms.

Since Misplaced Pages is not a completely automatic computer program, in the sense that it is "hand-tuned", it can do better. I suggest splitting the Village of Great Neck information into a separate article (parallel to the articles about the other eight villages) and focusing the current article on Great Neck as a whole. There might be an additional disambiguation article explaining the three definitions of Great Neck: common usage; governmental, especially VGN; and geographical (the peninsula).

I'm willing to take a first crack at this—when I have time—if others agree this is a good idea. —Bingoeleven (talk) 16:18, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Areas of contention

Looks like there's a slow-motion edit-war underway here.

We may have to resort to Misplaced Pages:Resolving_disputes

In particular, I'm noting edits from one or many anonymous contributors posting that

1. ) Orthodox jews have exerted a negative influence since the '90s
2. ) Persians don't care as much as Asians or Ashkenazis about the public schools.

These are volatile subjects. Both of these positions are worthy of discussion, and are (in theory) defensible without descending into name-calling. The question at hand, however, is whether they can be supported as FACT. Bring primary sources. Only then can we have an even playing field for rational discourse.

I recommend that everybody take a breath and re-read Misplaced Pages:Neutral_point_of_view, and Misplaced Pages:Cite_sources\

--Vonfraginoff 23:32, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

1. ) The second paragraph of the history section is terribly written, and virtually unreadable, could someone please rewrite.
2. ) "Great Neck residents, typically well-educated, are concerned about education"... with a citation from a two-page Great Neck School District blurb brochure? What kind of an unsupported generalization is that? This is a Misplaced Pages article, not a realtor's pitch, right?

History and Iranian Jews

It was previously mentioned in this article that "an influx of affluent Iranian Jews who were expelled from their country following the 1979 Islamic Revolution settled in Great Neck"

However Iranian Jews that settled in Great Neck were not necessarily expelled from Iran, the majority chose to leave the country and settled in various part of the U.S. I changed expel to left, I should mention there are over 30,000 Jews still living in Iran and there is no discrimination against them, in fact contarary to popular belief, despite Iranian government's the anti-Israeli stance, they greatly support and respect the Jewish Iranian population.

Jeez

My recent edit... maybe i should have read the discussions here first. Eh i think mine is harmless and informative but hey, you never know.70.111.60.32 03:10, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

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