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Thanks

For stepping in last night to diffuse the situation. It was such a small thing. Anyway, as you asked (your the first to ask!) its pronounced keohl; and is the Gaelic word for 'music'. Anyway, take care. Ceoil (talk) 20:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh and the Book of Kells was a great, great save bty. Ceoil

Thanks for the note, and for your kind words about the Book of Kells. I really enjoyed working on it and was glad to be able to help. About the other night, I'm glad everything has settled down. I just hated seeing everyone up in arms about something so trivial. Cheers, Kafka Liz (talk) 17:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the edits. If you might keep an eye on this, that would be appreciated. I need it, I cannot spell at all. Ceoil (talk) 22:52, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Similar would be great. The Triumph of Death? My, you were a happy little bunny as a a kid. It is great though. Ceoil (talk) 23:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I think you should merge. Ceoil (talk) 00:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Kafka Liz, nice to meet you. I thought I might not disturb if I edited from the bottom, but I'll leave Garden alone for now and you can continue. –Outriggr § 01:17, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I saw you had chosen Fränger—which is fine, I would think—and my last edit was to put back your Fränger after the edit conflict. Are you, um, a Kafka fan? –Outriggr § 01:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi again Liz. Thank you for all the work; and if you email a pdf of the article, that would be great. Sorry about all the typos! Ceoil (talk) 09:46, 3 May 2008 (UTC) Sent mail. Ceoil (talk) 17:39, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Brilliant. I've lit a cigarette, opened a bottle of red wine, and thrown the doors last album on the player thing. Reading now; gimme an hour. Ceoil (talk) 17:49, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Take it out. Its weak and marginal. Nice catch; I had a funny feeling somebody would call me on it ;-( Ceoil (talk) 13:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

The article is very stong and interesting; I'm going to incorporate in the next few hours. Ceoil (talk) 13:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Great, but it's too early for wine here. Was at a wake for a friend's birthday last night and I'm a bit shakey today, to put it mildly. Hence the low value edits you caught. Things are going from bad to worse; I can lift books and just about type, but I cant walk or cook. Ceoil (talk) 13:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Didymoteicho Fortress

Hey, I saw your request to fix an image about Didymoteicho Fortress. What do you want me to fix? Note: Detail in commons:Commons:Graphic Lab School/Images to improve#Didymoteicho Fortress. Ivan Akira (talk) 08:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Alright it's done, please refer to User_talk:Ivan_Akira#Didymoteicho and commons:Commons:Graphic Lab School/Images to improve#Didymoteicho Fortress. Ivan Akira (talk) 06:18, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Garden

Reword certainly, but although Harbison has written a book on van Eyck, this is a throwaway comment in a survey work, and I doubt it is his idea. one or more of 3 Belgians with long names seem to be the culprits. Johnbod (talk) 00:51, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

When in doubt, blame the Belgians. Would "Art historians speculate that..." be too weasle-ish? Kafka Liz (talk) 00:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

No such thing as the wrong flavour

Your image was only three qarters full, and brown; not black, but it'll do. Thanks, once agian. Ceoil (talk) 02:42, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Smile

User:Eae1983 has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

--Eae1983 (talk) 04:38, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Komotini

Be careful on the fact that your sourced material you present from the so-called scholar refers to Turkish-speaking Minority and NOT Turkish Minority. Those are two pretty different things, which for your own reasons you see as the same. But they are not. Turkish-speaking minority refers to the Muslim minority speaking Turkish. There is officially NO Turkish minority. The Muslim Minority comprises of Turks (speaking Turkish), Pomaks and Roma. Anyway I added this material at the end where a reference about the multilingual status of Komotini is made. I sincerely hope you contribute with the same ethusiasm in Istanbul as well.Cheers.Aee1980 (talk) 12:46, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

If you read the lead carefully, you'll see that it does say "Turkish speaking." Thanks, Kafka Liz (talk) 12:51, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Mother's Day

Hi KafkaLiz, I was wondering if you could look at something for me? There's an addition to the ASU library that I'd like to incorporate into Misplaced Pages, but since a relative of mine is involved, I have to be careful about COI. Would you be willing to take a look at this, and see if there's something that might be worth adding to the Elsie Dunin article? Thanks, Elonka 02:43, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Elonka, I'll check it out. Mondays can be long, hideous days for me, but I should be able to find some time. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 09:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, and as a related matter, I recently created Cross-Cultural Dance Resources. I'm not a member of the organization, but since I am related to the organization's vice-president, there's a potential for COI. I'm pretty sure I have it properly sourced, but if you have a moment, could you please take a look, and maybe leave a note on the talkpage? And of course, if you see anything inappropriate, feel free to make changes as needed. Thanks, Elonka 15:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Elonka, I'll check it out. I may not be able to get to it until this evening (that problem with Mondays :)), but I'll have a look. Kafka Liz (talk) 16:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Smiles and beaches!

Here's a beach for you! Beaches somehow promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing! Acalamari 02:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Tasty, thanks! Acalamari 15:59, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank You!

Thank you soooo much for your input on the article about Mrs. Pilate. I want to see this article expanded and improved as much as possible, and I'm genuinely interested in seeing this happen in a rancor-free environment. Personally, I am finding the process ruined by the actions of another editor (no point rehashing that here). However, I value having the intelligent and mature input of someone who can respect editors' opinions. Please stay and keep your wonderful observations and concerns flowing. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 16:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Ecoleetage. Like you, I am finding the process of improving the article somewhat less than collegial. I can work on gathering some sources, including the Origen and also an Encyclopedia of Orthodox saints. I may not be able to weight in on the article talkpage today -- busy day at work and long evening ahead -- but I have do have some opinions I'd like to share, particularly on the propsed name change. Much depends, I think, on whether the article empasizes the historical figure or the religious tradition, and within the latter, the differences between the more general traditional figure and the specific Orthodox saint. Hope I'll get a chance to weigh in on this, Kafka Liz (talk) 17:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again! Let's work together and with our like-minded peers to make this happen. I set up a Compromise List on the Talk Page for everyone to weigh in on what the article could look like. I hope this brings order from chaos. Ecoleetage (talk) 17:54, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

Thanks for your support at my recent Request for adminship. I hope you find I live up to your expectations. Best, Risker (talk) 16:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Ditto

Thank you

For keeping an eye on my user and talk pages and keeping them free of vandals. :) Acalamari 15:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Happy to help, but sorry that the need arose. You seem to be attracting an unusual amount of flak lately. Kafka Liz (talk) 15:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Heh: just some IP-sockpuppeteer who has decided to vandalize my user and talk pages now that an article they were vandalizing previously has been protected. :) Thanks again. Acalamari 15:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Right wing

No go right ahead, please. Actually, I was just about to ping you with a msg to you rude booay (ie you have email!!). Ceoil (talk) 00:58, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Brilliant. I'm just tending to the remaining issues at the PR, and will nom after that. Ja think its ready? Ceoil (talk) 01:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, lets give it 24 hours, as you say there are bits and pieces yet, and better to iron them outside of the spotlight. Also I notice a new source just popped up ;-) Thanks. Ceoil (talk) 01:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

The pig is wearing a nuns head-dress.. Its to do with men being manipulated by femininity, and the notion the fall was essentially orchestrated through feminine guile. Not a very pleasant aspect of the work, considering womens positioning and prospects in society at the time. Ceoil (talk) 02:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

No, keep on going! If anything an FAC intensifies the rate of work. Ceoil (talk) 00:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I prefer to keep journals in the citations only. But if a book is in the citations but not in the bibliography, then that needs to be fixed; which ones have you spotted. By the way, do you know how to wikify ISBN 9784805505458 so it turns blue? It beyond me. The FAC is going well, so far ;). Ceoil (talk) 19:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

much better. Ceoil (talk) 19:45, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

No wait. Have a look at the formatting in this, maybe thats what we should go for. Leave it and I'll think about it. Ceoil (talk) 19:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I'd agree with those; would you mind looking after it, I working on the havard refs and the 'hairy people'! Abbreviate the cites, I suppose. Thanks again. Ceoil (talk) 20:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

No author given, I'm afraid. Ceoil (talk) 20:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Jesus. I'm trying to be all arty and intellectual here, and you are making jokes about Mr von Baldass and the hairy people—hairy from "head to foot" no less—he describes?? Tut tut. That remarkable and endlessly amusing concidence never even entered my head....<snigger> Ceoil (talk) 23:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Phew, glad to see you. Was feeling a bit out-gunned! Ceoil (talk) 23:57, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

That's much better. But we really need a copy editor! I pinged Notica, who really is one of the best, and then Outriggr, whom I worry may have left us - look at his last edit :( Ceoil (talk) 00:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Jashiin's review is top notch though. Anyway enjoy your Friday night out. Log out, Go! Ceoil (talk) 00:29, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

To clarify: the article is now 5569 words, which under FAC glare is too much for any one editor to polish. You have done an amazing job copy editing, repairing and adding to the article so far, and note that no serious objection has been made on prose style; just on incidences of text recently added before you had got there first. (You might be relieved to hear I discovered Firefox yesterday, which as a built in spell-checker. Finally!) Anyway, I don't expect you to cover flow, repair, polish and style all in one bag. The style I like most for wiki is what Outriggr gave to Three Studies for Figures at the Base of a Crucifixion, the bastard has left me at the alter, though your work is bring it closer and closer to there. Ceoil (talk) 00:55, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Sent a mail request re Dante and Bosch. Ceoil (talk) 00:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

oooooh! How nice ;-0 Congratulations and well done! Ceoil (talk) 01:22, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Lady Jane Grey

Thank you for your advise.No, you were not butting in. I'm sorry and indeed rather embarrassed that you had to witness such a silly dispute which only began after I'd changed the article's DOB to the sourced established date. I never once imagined that such a minor edit would result in WWIII. Again, I offer my apologies for my participation in a senseless on-line dispute. I have, in fact moved away from Lady Jane as I really have nothing new to contribute to the article. Again I apologise and thank you for your tact and discretion.jeanne (talk) 11:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad you did not take offense or see my comments as condescending or interfering. These things happen sometimes, and I certainly know from experience (I think we all do :) ) how easy it can be to get sucked into arguments like this, and how difficult to take a step back. Happy editing! :) Kafka Liz (talk) 11:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad you made your timely intervention; you stopped me from making a complete fool out of myself before the Misplaced Pages community over a trivial detail. I really enjoy editing and submitting articles. Again, I must praise your discretion. Cheers.jeanne (talk) 14:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you but it seems our editor PhDHistorian didn't receive your message. He is now vandalising my Talk Pages using an Anonymous User although I know it's him. I have not written to him since your advice nor have I edited the Jane Grey article, but it seems he's out to persecute me. It's upsetting and disruptive to my work at Misplaced Pages. He is also trying to provoke a fight between me and other editors by revertind stuff I deleted from MY talk pages. KafkaLiz, what can I do? It's most unpleasant.jeanne (talk) 16:25, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry to see that you've been having trouble on your user- and talkpages. I'm not an admin, so I couldn't have been as helpful as Rockpocket was, but I can always offer advice. First off, I'm not sure that PhDHistorian is responsible for the vandalism to your talkpage. I'm pretty sure if he had more to say to you, he'd say it directly. Also, his userpage indicates that he may have retired from Misplaced Pages. Finally, the IP user's other contributions here and here seem to indicate that it is some third party. In short, I think this is just a troll, someone looking to stir up a little drama. The best thing to do in these cases is to revert and ignore. Don't let them get a rise out of you, because that is exactly what they are trying to do. The best places to ask for assistance if the trouble persists are Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts and Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection.

On another note, if you do choose to interact with an anonymous IP vandalising your page, it is better to use one of the templates here rather than to write a personal note. The templates serve as formal warnings than can help lead to a block, and they also preclude the possibility that your temper may get the better of you. Does that make sense?

Finally, while you are free to delete whatever you like from your own personal talkpage, it is considered bad form to delete messages you leave others. The preferred method on Misplaced Pages is to strike withdrawn comments by <s>placing strike tags around them</s> Example.

I hope I've been able to help, Kafka Liz (talk) 13:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again for your constructive advice. Yes, I can see that the vandalism to my pages was indeed the work of trolls. What pests they can be. Next time I won't respond at all.08:28, 26 May 2008 (UTC)jeanne (talk)

Thanks...

for the positive feedback at my RFA and for the vote of confidence too, of course. It is nice to have one's contributions appreciated, isn't it? I have seen and respected yours too. Anyway I hope to goof up too badly, too soon! --Slp1 (talk) 13:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

You're more than welcome. I thought the patience and thoroughness you displayed while working on Christian Polak were admirable. You do good work here, and I doubt you'll "goof up." :) Kafka Liz (talk) 10:01, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Mrs. Pilate Gets GA Status

Hey, I just found out that Pontius Pilate's wife received WP:GA status! Thanks for your input in this endeavor.

If I wasn't a big bully, I could actually cry based on the stress and grief I got in trying to push that damn article along. I am happy that my persistence paid off, but I genuinely wish someone along the line could've said "Thank you, Eco, for believing in this." Oh well, on to other conquests. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

P.S. In view of your efforts to bring order to that chaotic discussion on Pilate's wife, please accept this token of my appreciation:

		Civility Award
		For expecting (nay, demanding!) only the best of editors in a Misplaced Pages discussion. Ecoleetage (talk) 22:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on Mrs. P's promotion to GA status! This is excellent news - I know you put a lot of hard work into the article. I'm sorry I wasn't able to offer more help. Once the FA I'm working on is done, I'd still like to see if I can't track down a few more sources for the article, as I am intrigued by the topic. I'll keep you posted on what I find.

Thank you, also, for the barnstar: it's such a lovely surprise to get one. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 11:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind message. With additional sourcing, perhaps we can promote the article for WP:FA status? Be well! Ecoleetage (talk) 12:15, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

If we can find the sources, we can certainly try. I don't think it'll be easy, though, realistically speaking. Not necessarily impossible, but not easy. Kafka Liz (talk) 15:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Yay for civility

I'd just like to second that civility barnstar you got the other day! --Bonadea (talk) 12:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Sarayburnu

Have you seen this: User_talk:Lambiam#Ridiculous_Perspective.3F. Aramgar (talk) 16:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes. I've read the whole thing more closely now. I'm holding off editing it until I can write something for the talkpage that's more than just a brief note. I'm a bit crunched for time today and can't get into anything major just yet. Kafka Liz (talk) 17:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Bosch

	The Barnstar of Cultural Transcendence
	Awarding this barnstar to Liz for her content addition, extensive copy editing, extensive formating, extensive restructuring, and for the many suggestions given along the way in bringing The Garden of Earthly Delights to FA. And for generally being a good 'un. Ceoil (talk) 15:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Aee1980 is back!! :))

Hi Kafka Liz, our dear friend Aee1980 from Komotini is back, under a new name (Bunzo1980 -note the huge difference-) and is actively trying to take a revenge on us. He may soon come into your articles too. Anyways, as I do not know how to report sockpuppetry, I am also sure you could help me with that. He attacked one of my stub articles, List of largest flags because it contained a flag of the TRNC. He was warned for vandalism once, but he managed to convince the person that warned him that "The article was hijacked for political purposes" so the same person posted it for deletion in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of largest flags where he found many people, mainly americans, who did not like the article's shape (well, it's a stub...) that voted for a "delete". The worst, but maybe funniest part is that, he asserted in his comment for deletion that "the author has been involved in similar situations where articles have been modified to promote certain political values" when his account is just 4 days old... Which situations is he talking about? My account is 2 years old and I have never gone political, nor being accused as such, wait... He probably means Komotini, where we cleared, together with you and Aramgar his politcal propaganda.. There he gives away his true persona as Aee1980 :))

You are invited to check for yourself at: List of largest flags and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of largest flags...

I really appreciate your efforts to bring clarity into this very obscure world!

Cheers! --Eae1983 (talk) 22:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Merhaba, Eae1983. I'm sorry not to get back to you sooner - my life's been pretty busy lately. :) Thank you for your nice note. I see that Aee1980 has been blocked as the sockpuppet of a banned user. I was not 100 % certain that Bunzo1980 was the same person -- although I can certainly see why it seemed likely -- and it seems that the checkuser indicates that they are indeed not the same. That said, it is certainly possible that he (or she) is someone's sockpuppet, as they definitely seem to have a certain knowledge of past disputes. Anyway... I'd prefer not to get involved with the flag article. While I appreciate your good intentions, it's my experience that flags and flag articles cause a lot of argument and edit-warring. For me, names are more important. Also, the situation in Northern Cyprus seems extremely complex: I have never been there and don't currently feel qualified to comment. I hope you understand. :) İyi akşamlar (my time), Kafka Liz (talk) 23:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Sistine Chapel

Liz, I'm going to try and tackle the above if you are interested on collebarting again. May a bit ambitious, but we'll see how it goes. All the beast. Ceoil (talk) 12:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Symmachi-Nicomachi diptych

On 16 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Symmachi-Nicomachi diptych, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 11:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Northern Renaissance

If they're in Category:Early Netherlandish painters, which is a sub-cat, they don't need to be in the NR cat as well. It's a bit different for cats like Category:Arts in the court of Philip the Good as that is a less obvious place to find people. What could usefully be added, to the main cat, or the national subs where they exist, are the national groups of Category:Renaissance humanists. Cheers Johnbod (talk) 01:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Done that now. Johnbod (talk) 03:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for being patient with me -- I'm new to working with categories on a broader scale like this. What you say makes perfect sense. Kafka Liz (talk) 12:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all - it's great to see someone else taking an interest in the poor cats - most of the better editors don't. Johnbod (talk) 12:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi liz -

Hi liz, I am satyajit ..I have created the sambalpuri/Koshali page on wikipedia...But off late i found many peoples are writing wrong information on my page and it seems you support them..I have made this page with an intention to let the world know about our culture i.e sambalpuri..This page represents the way of life and culture 2500000 people of whole western orissa but few peoples are trying generalise our culture with them...I did a lot of research and have collected so many information to create this page..but now you people are undo'ing changes made by me...Request you to please let me try to inform the world about our people who are still staying in jungles ..yet to get basic amenities...I hope you will understand me...thanks for your patience... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Satyajit Nayak (talk • contribs) 12:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Updated Catullus WikiProject

Hi Liz,

I updated the Catullus WikiProject this morning, which should give us a central location for discussing things and reach consensus. I made sub-pages for the three main issues:

• Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Catullus/Images
• Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Catullus/Translations
• Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Catullus/Coverage

so that newcomers will be able to find out what our consensus is easily. We can add other special topics as needed.

We really could use at least one image for the WikiProject. Have you been able to find something that's not covered by copyright?

I hope you like what you see, and please accept the invitation to join there! :) Willow (talk) 17:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, Willow. :) I will reply here in short order. Kafka Liz (talk) 01:17, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Beware what you want

Or something. Coming soon. Eeek! Ceoil 02:06, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I'd noticed you were gone, but I hadn't realised you were dead. Glad you recovered, as 'dead' can often be fairy serious. I expect quite a lot of vandelism with the Garden, give the number of naked people running around in the article, but ach, nothing that can't be handled. Welcome back anyway. ( Ceoil 23:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Catullus images?

Hi Liz,

Have you had any luck in finding apt images for Catullus? I'm just checking in, please don't feel rushed. Oh, you might not have noticed, but our fellow Catullus-friend, Yolgnu, has retired from Misplaced Pages. :( Willow (talk) 13:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Willow -- Please forgive my belated reply; I've been busy off-wiki beginning a new job, so I had to put Catullus on hold for a bit. I've been on an unannounced wikibreak for the past couple of months and am just beginning to get back into editing again. I do have a list of mss. culled from a critical edition that I believe will be useful. I'm sorry to hear about Yolgnu; being away, I didn't know he had left. Kafka Liz (talk) 11:06, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi Kafka Liz, thank you so much for the kind note on my talk page! I can assure you that there's been no problems, just been on a break. :) I've responded to your E-mail, and I'll thank you here as well for your kind words in that note you sent. Best wishes. Acalamari 16:18, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Glad to hear you are back, and that all is well. I'm still a bit sporadic, as you can see - new job, family visits eating up my time... :) Kafka Liz (talk) 15:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm pleased to see you too. :) I hope everything with your family and work are good. Best wishes. Acalamari 15:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello again

Nice to see you back again, and hope all is well and that your new job is suiting you well. You didn't miss much wiki drama during your break, except a lot of srife and the fact that we lost Outriggr to the real world + I still cant spell. Oh well. Ceoil 16:52, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

He, Who would have thought that the real world could trump Misplaced Pages As FAR as I can see wikipedia is what happens when there is no real world. Anyway, the amazing library you mention has my interest; could you get a few JSTOR article for me if I asked nicely? Pretty please. Talk later. Ceoil

Suggestion

Caspar David Friedrich‎. Its almost there, are you on for giving it a push. I reckon Moderinst might go for it, and when it is better, JNW and Johnbod. It was mostly written by Outriggr, and maybe he'll come back to finish it off. Ceoil 13:26, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Šar Mountains

Hi Liz. Thank you for helping to improve the readability of that talk page :-) However, I took the liberty of modifying the format of your refactoring of Nikola Smolenski's comments. Those elegant quotation boxes gave too much prominence to my comments for my personal taste. I hope you don't mind. - Best regards, Ev (talk) 14:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Of course I don't mind. :) Thank you for your thoughtful and well-reasoned comments. Cheers, Kafka Liz (talk) 14:23, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Too bad. I was really looking forward to the adrenaline rush of a prolongued talk page edit-war over these details... I guess I'll have to find something else to do during the afternoon. - Best, Ev (talk) 17:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to disappoint. I'm off to ethnically cleanse tzatziki and lahmacun. ;) Kafka Liz (talk) 14:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for notification

Didn't have anything to do with barnstar placed on my talkpage (don't believe I've even talked to the contributer before). I'd note FP still managed to bring up my name on the noticeboard though (and not in a flattering manner). FP and I have an ongoing dispute between us. He accuses me of being a trolling nationalist. I accuse him of being an admin in a COI as a major contributer in politically sensitive articles (and especially towards me as I am a constant thorn on his side in those articles) I have a total of 3 blocks on WP... all of which can be directly be traced back to his involvement. (long story for another day or an rfc... if I survive long enough that is :)

Any how...do you recommend that I should I add my two cents on the matter to the notification page? I'm not familiar with WP protocol on closed cases so any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. --Crossthets (talk) 02:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Crossthets. The notification wasn't meant as an accusation, just a note to make you aware that your page was the subject of a discussion. As for adding further comments, the general protocol is that closed cases at WP:ANI need no further comment. This isn't a hard and fast rule, of course, but in this instance I don't think you need add anything else. I believe most of the admins involved see it as an issue between Walnutjk and Future Perfect, since you neither posted it nor appeared to have known it was there. Make sense? Kafka Liz (talk) 16:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for the follow-up Kakfa. --Crossthets (talk) 21:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Lady Jane Grey - Personal Attacks

I just found your note re: Incivility on my Talk page. Having abandoned Misplaced Pages since the exchange with astrologer Jeanne, I had not seen it before now. I do understand and appreciate your concern regarding the level of civility. I have a similar level of concern, but it is in regard to the level of scholarship exhibited in the LJG article. Rather than continue to engage my expertise with her pseudo-science and the ignorance of others, I withdrew from Misplaced Pages entirely. I return today only because a close friend asked me to me look at something in the article and to answer his question ... OFF Misplaced Pages ... and I finally saw your message. It takes too much time to battle rampant, willful ignorance, so I no longer have anything to do with Misplaced Pages. I might note, however, that my research on LJG, especially my research on her date of birth, is now accepted by the academic community and will be referenced in two books on LJG forthcoming ... one from Leanda de Lisle ("The Sisters Who Would Be Queen," due January 2009 in the UK, 2010 in the US) and the other from Eric Ives ("Lady Jane Grey: A Tudor Mystery," due late spring 2009 in the UK). I find it much more satisfying to work among peers rather than deal with the less well informed who too often contribute to Misplaced Pages (i.e., "Jeanne" and others like her). PhD Historian (talk) 19:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

You can email me at Historian at dc dot rr dot com.PhD Historian (talk) 19:32, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

First Crusade featured article review

Hello! Elonka suggested that you might be able to help in getting First Crusade through it's current featured article review. I'd like to help out myself, but my knowledge of the Crusades, other than the Fourth Crusade, is very sketchy indeed. Here's hoping you'll be able to help out. Very best wishes, Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Angus! I'm a bit crunched for time this evening, but I'm happy to take a look and do whatever I can. Thank you for letting me know, Kafka Liz (talk) 01:50, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Paul Nash

Hey Liz, that is a beautiful painting, and there are so many more fantastic images directly inspired by Freidrich that I think we could have a very strong daughter article on our hands with ease. Its something we should thrash out on talk. Ceoil 18:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Sounds great. Which Vaughn are you using? The 2004 book has a pretty good section of CDF's legacy in general; it's been a big help. Otherwise I feel like I've missed a lot in the past couple of days... Kafka Liz (talk) 15:25, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

O nice work. I'm trying to break down the legacy section so we can have more space for general influence, but it need work yet <sight>. You shold push Nash on the talk and see if anybody has further context or souces; other than that hope is all is well. All is well here. Ceoil (talk) 01:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

"a day or so to mull it over" is exactly where I'm at too; so much has been thrown up on talk that time out is needed to digest and look into before we can pretend to make sence of it. As for the here talk page stuff; its not like it matters, just the usual 5% idiot fringe that make life typically difficult for the other 95% of us. As my grandmother used to say, "f**k 'em". Ceoil (talk) 02:08, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Impressive, but I feel confident that my Gran could have taken on your Gran anywhere, any palce, c. 1939. Ceoil (talk) 02:22, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I'd say the main article, we should let it grow and then spin out. Ceoil (talk) 01:36, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmm

I know I rely on you quite a lot, but. I have a rather BIG favour to ask. The Lucy poems is comprehensive now, save a few bits and pieces, however it was written by Ottava and myself, and neither of us two gentlemen would identify as good prose writers; to say the least. The focus to date has been on content only, and I plan on spending a few weeks on ce'ing. I suppose your help here would be invaluable if you have time. Either way is ok. Ceoil (talk) 00:14, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

No, copy-editing is a big part of why I'm here, and I'm happy to help (despite fighting an impulse to add an image of this character ;) ). I have a couple of other projects in the works, but I haven't really begun them yet. Is the article pretty much complete, content-wise? Kafka Liz (talk) 00:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Content wise: about 80%. I also have to give it a run through for logic, some of the statements are fractured and I need to tidy them up yet. As its an article on poetry, the prose will have to be just so, so help from a skilled copy editor is sorely needed. There is not a hurry with this; it will go through PR and GA before the FA nom - I need to get as much feedback as possible as I am outside my area. Thanks though....Ceoil (talk) 00:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Here is a good primer if you do decide to step aboard. It makes me blush listening to this, and I'm not very shy! I love it! Ceoil (talk) 00:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow... Lovely stuff. Thanks. I'm definitely in. Trying to think what that reminds me of... Kafka Liz (talk) 01:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Thats what I think too. The article is a slab of concret yet, but we have a shot at making someting lovely and moving out of it. Ceoil (talk) 01:07, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Rindfleischetikettierungsüb....arrrrgh!!!

It might not be of much help to you now, but I often rely upon Beolingus as a German-English dictionary. It's from the University of Chemnitz, and so is quite reliable... Lithoderm (talk) 00:44, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I'll use it all right. I had a really excellent online dictionary (don't have the link on me -it's at work), but the guy who made it decided to turn it into a salable application. :( One of these days I should actually take a course, I suppose. Thanks! Kafka Liz (talk) 01:08, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Did you already knew that Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz exists in Misplaced Pages? (By the way, another German-English dictionary is LEO.) --Cyfal (talk) 01:46, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Jeeziz. Consider the day lost in which you learn nothing, as my Latin teacher used to say. I'm sure there's a joke that could be made about the packaging of meat, but I'll refrain ;) I used to use the ARTFL dictionary (retracing my steps), but it seems to be gone now. Thanks for the link. Kafka Liz (talk) 02:00, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Maine Coon

You're welcome. I have a feeling I'll get a lot of flack from one user in particular that drops in on the article and other users whose images I removed from the article, but hopefully, that won't be the case. Thank you for appreciating it and for the minor copy edit. That sentence was a little funky. ;-) – Ms. Sarita 01:27, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

I think you've done an admirable job in trimming the images down. I know everyone wants to see a picture of their own cat in the article, but... it does get a bit unencyclopedic after a while. Thanks again. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 01:33, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to bother you, but I am in need of a little advice. As I suspected, two users (whom I suspect are the same person) keep putting a specific image (the Nala.jpg image) into the article without good reason. Should I just let it be? It makes the article look so crummy but I'm so tired of duking it out with these people and I don't want to violate WP:3RR. Any tips? Thanks a lot. – Ms. Sarita 00:53, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

No bother - I noticed this too and will continue to keep an eye on the article. We can always file a sockpuppet or 3RR report if it becomes a serious problem. Kafka Liz (talk) 01:00, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

November 2008

Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Misplaced Pages, as you did to Sicily, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Immense sense (talk) 00:57, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Note: the article is a summary of the history, too much focus on one specific section gives an undue weight and thus a bias preference to a sertain time period. This is not how to present a summary history. If you continue to vandalise the article without giving a summary then you will get reported. Immense sense (talk) 00:57, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

It should be also noted that as well as being undue weight, your Islamocentrism in the article does not have any sources in an entire paragraph. I've put your stuff on Emirate of Sicily where such indepth details can be indugled in full detail. - 01:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC)