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I agree this article needs expanding. NLP and Scientology use the concept, and we can expand it to include science. I understand why Comaze wants to act against NPOV and hide the nlp refs. He has an extremely strong agenda to promote NLP and seems to want to use wikipedia as an NLP spamsite. The evidence is all over the NLP article history.] 04:07, 13 October 2005 (UTC) I agree this article needs expanding. NLP and Scientology use the concept, and we can expand it to include science. I understand why Comaze wants to act against NPOV and hide the nlp refs. He has an extremely strong agenda to promote NLP and seems to want to use wikipedia as an NLP spamsite. The evidence is all over the NLP article history.] 04:07, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

NLP prefers computationalism (Turing Machines). It does not use the engram concept at all. This has been discussed in depth at ]. --] 09:56, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

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Engrams & Neuro-linguistic Programming (removed)

I've removed this information that was added by HeadleyDown. see Talk:Neuro-linguistic Programming. This is NOT a central concept in NLP. "NLP or Neurolinguistic programming also makes similar use of the use of the engram concept (Drenth 2003) especially in relation to the clearing or treatment of traumas (Andreas & Faulkner, 1994)." References:

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  • Drenth, J.D. (2003) Growing anti-intellectualism in Europe; a menace to science. Studia Psychologica, 2003, 45, 5-13


The engram is a central concept of neuroscience and psychology amongst other related subjects. It is also used in NLP as a concept, and it is explicitly mentioned using the term "engram". I understand that scientology and NLP have hijacked the idea, but that does not give them supreme claim to the engram concept. The article needs to be expanded to include neuroscience and psychology's use of the term.HeadleyDown 04:42, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree this article needs expanding. NLP and Scientology use the concept, and we can expand it to include science. I understand why Comaze wants to act against NPOV and hide the nlp refs. He has an extremely strong agenda to promote NLP and seems to want to use wikipedia as an NLP spamsite. The evidence is all over the NLP article history.Bookmain 04:07, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

NLP prefers computationalism (Turing Machines). It does not use the engram concept at all. This has been discussed in depth at Talk:Neuro-linguistic Programming. --Comaze 09:56, 13 October 2005 (UTC)