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Re: Natalee Holloway

What common terms am I overlinking? It would be easier to fix the problem if you'd be more specific. Treybien 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Um, like murder. Also, that Tabloid TV edit was illconsidered. We probably should have linked to tabloid television, to avoid the redirect.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:33, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Juno

Thanks for dropping the note. I've been pretty busy the last week (well, to be honest, I've been trying to finish the entire Twilight series in under a week, which I've very almost done :P) but that's drawing to an imminent end and I'd be very happy to work with you on the article. Apart from needing a thorough copyedit, I'd say one of the main issues is reliable sources - there are several citations in there which I don't think would be deemed FA-acceptable. If it's any help to you (if you were planning to add in any additional info) I compiled a list of relevant external links - mostly news articles, etc. - at the top of my sandbox. I also put together a few links for a potential marketing section which I intended to create ages ago but never got around to ... I'll see if I can get to that in the next couple of days. All the best, —97198 (talk) 13:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

TFA

Royal Oak is opposed on the anniversary of its sinking with the loss of 833 lives and coincident with the gathering of survivors at its memorial ceremony, but New Jersey is supported for the day it opened as a museum? With regards, — BillC 13:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

There's always next year. And there had been two other Royal Navy articles close in time to Royal Oak, this is at least a different navy.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Next year is the two hundredth anniversary of the War of the Fifth Coalition. — BillC 13:33, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

You've been mentioned at WP:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard

Hey. Your name has been mentioned at WP:COIN#Simple Plan. EdJohnston (talk) 18:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello Wehwalt. See my recent edit summary on that page, which concerns one of your comments. Just wanted you to be aware. EdJohnston (talk) 16:31, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations

		The Resilient Barnstar
		Great job getting the Jena Six article up to FA standards. Your hard work is appreciated. Remember (talk) 18:31, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Replacing TFAR

I have no problem with your replacement, but I wish you would have included "Tyrone Wheatley" in your edit summary so I could figure what happened without taking ten minutes to find the diff.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

The purpose of the 60 day window is for things just like this. If I want to nominate these three bios in good faith, I obviously am not suppose to try to slip them in later after getting the first one approved. I notified everyone of my intent and understand clearly that Wheatley is a lower priority than the others. I scanned the diffs quickly and saw this and assumed you did. Apologies. I will have to take some more time with the diffs to see what happened. I saw the second oppose and have no problems with it however given my future intentions.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 12:48, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I'd rather see you act above board, then some of the nominations we've seen recently which have not engaged on the template. I think you would have been better advised by waiting a couple of days until Augustus had had its day in the sun. I think that ticked off one or two people. I know that there were only a few days, but it would have looked better. Look, the Holloway article (in which I played a role) could have been nominated right after Jena Six was scheduled, but it would have looked bad. Instead, AuburnPilot, Kww, and myself are discussing the points, whether it should be run on her birthday, etc while letting other articles have that slot. There's no need to rush onto the nominations page, it just makes you a target for longer.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Number signs

Its alright, I just assumed you were using some new program to edit or something. Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 12:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Simple Plan

Just thought I'd let you know that the COI we were involved in is officially closed. I think we've both spent a lot of time and energy at the Simple Plan article these past couple of weeks and nothing constructive has come of it yet. I honestly feel that magazine reviews are reliable sources, and apparently you don't, which is fine. I could give a bunch of examples to support my view, and I'm sure you could too. The fact is we just don't agree on the matter, and that's cool. There's probably lots of evidence to support both our views. Since this is something we both feel pretty strongly about, I'm not sure how likely we are to reach an agreement. However, if you feel that you'd like to work toward one, then I'd be willing to try. Otherwise, I'll look for other projects to apply my energy to for now. Aurum ore (talk) 23:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

First, Talk:Simple Plan. Second, you're going in circles. Reviews aren't sources. -- Poe Joe (talk) 07:15, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Reviews are used as soueces on some articles. User Jac16888 said at the talk page that he thought the RS reference was worth including, however this isn't the place to discuss that. Right now I'm just asking whether you guys want to go on with the discussion. If not, that's fine, we can all focus on other projects. Aurum ore (talk) 17:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I see little likelihood that any of us would change our positions on this. Having taken three articles to FA with the help of other editors, I might know something about reliable sources by now. Any further discussion should be at Talk:Simple Plan, as Poe Joe notes, and I see no need for it. Especially since you don't seem to "get" WP:UNDUE.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:32, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

TFA/R categories

In case I forget (which is likely, considering how busy I've been), the Culture and society category at WP:FA is currently at 49, there are two in the pipeline, but one (David Helvarg) is at WP:FAR and not likely to survive, so before we remove it from the points at WP:TFA/R we should see how the FAR is doing. I may forget to follow up on this. And I don't remember if the wording is 50 or more than 50, but it may bounce around 50 for a few days depending on the FAR. By the way, thank you so much again for tending to Jeff's blurb. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:43, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

We'll apply a rule of reason which seems to have worked the last few weeks. No problem on the Jeff article, it needed to be done and I'll keep an eye on the article. I am going to be travelling extensively for the next couple of months, so I can't undertake to be there for the article on its likely day of glory.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:36, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Natalee Holloway

Hello Wehwalt. I think the lede of this could be improved by moving the second sentence to the start of the second paragraph. The phrase "later on May 30" is confusing; does it mean later in the day, or later in relation to the graduation date? If the former, how about just "late on May 30"? Regards, Kablammo (talk) 12:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I think the phrasing is needed as the relevant events took place in the wee hours, and the reader might tend to overlook that. I don't have anything I really trust on what time Holloway was scheduled to fly out; the Mountain Brook group was split up onto two flights. But really you should take this to the article talk page for other editors to look at it, if you want to discuss it.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

All is for the best, in this, the best of all possible worlds

One of the advantages of not having many supporters at your RFA is that there are fewer people to thank at the end. Thanks for your support and your willingness to look at my complete record. I'm going to try to interpret this resounding defeat as a statement that I should choose my words more carefully in the future, and remember that every statement I make gets recorded forever, just waiting to get carefully transcribed onto my next RFA. I would go insane if I believed that it was repudiation of what I truly meant: that no editor should consciously and willfully ignore guidelines and policies, and editors that repeatedly do so should not be rewarded for or supported in doing so.

I'm sure I'll get back to full speed editing soon, because, after all, , every day, and in every way, I am getting better and better.—Kww(talk) 05:49, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Holloway

Good edit. "Onderzoek" means "search" or "investigation", and I had a typo.—Kww(talk) 12:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Review request

Thank you for your offer. If you can find time, could you look at Carsten Borchgrevink, currently a GAN, and perhaps do the GA review? Brianboulton (talk) 11:34, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I will get to it within 48 hours.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

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Natalee Holloway

Regarding your edit summary here; firstly I would like to ask you how that sentence does not make sense. Next I am wondering if you know what Vandalism even is?

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Pay special attention to the italicized word. Was my edit a deliberate attempt to harm Misplaced Pages? Absolutely not; I was trying to fix a grammatical error on an article which you then reverted and claimed as vandalism. Also I'm not sure why you think my version of the sentence (without the word "of") doesn't make sense? Artichoker 02:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

"The Aruban prosecutor's office reopened the case on February 1, 2008, after receiving video footage of Joran van der Sloot, under the influence of marijuana, making statements that Holloway died on the morning of May 30, 2005, and that her body was disposed." Doesn't make sense to me.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:37, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Well then can you think of another way to resolve the issue of a preposition at the end of the sentence? Artichoker 02:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC) Never mind, it seems to be fixed. Artichoker 02:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

MOSDATE confusion

In case I forget to follow up with Tony, you might want to watch: I think they really goofed that page, and it makes no sense to me at all now. They fiddle those MoS pages so often, one never knows what surprises await. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:09, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, Tony answered, and so after another MoS war, the upshot is that your dates are fine. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Slept through the war! Thanks Sandy.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:43, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Speer pronunciation

I noticed that you removed the IPA pronunciation I added to the Speer article. In your edit comment you said you wanted to see proof. Is it the actual pronunciation you disagree with or just the IPA conversion. If it is the actual pronunciation, then dictionary.com shows the proper German pronunciation as "shpeyr." In IPA for English, which is Misplaced Pages's standard pronunciation key, Template:Pron-en is as close as you're going to get to that, and I think that's pretty close to the proper German pronunciation. If you'd rather use some other pronunciation key to try to get a more accurate pronunciation that is fine, but you should weigh the gain in accuracy of the pronunciation against the greater familiarity of the average English Misplaced Pages reader with Misplaced Pages's standard pronunciation key. Rreagan007 (talk) 14:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Today's_featured_article/requests#November_15

Thankyou :) Should be interesting, first time I've been involved in such a procedure. Presumably it would be ill-conceived if I added my support, as the major contributor and 'nominator' on the talk page? Parrot of Doom (talk) 22:04, 29 October 2008 (UTC) No, feel free to. Then I'll add my support.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:05, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, the article has now been scheduled for 15 Nov :) Parrot of Doom (talk) 09:44, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

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Epicadam DC Talkback

Natalee Holloway, white slavery confession

Well, so sorry that I decided to add something without the approval of one of you "senior" people around here. There was nothing wrong with the link I used, the phrasing, positioning, or anything else, but apparently you felt you just HAD to screw around with it, because no edit is valid unless one of The Clique does it themself. From looking at the other entries on your talk page, this seems to be a pattern for you, and for this site at large. Frankly, I'm pretty tired of the oligarchical mentality of this site and the idea that no one is allowed to edit or add anything to Misplaced Pages except the "elite". STOP PLAYING GOD WITH WIKIPEDIA. You are not special just because you have a few Misplaced Pages awards on your user page. This is a PUBLIC site, and we're ALL allowed to contribute. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.16.162 (talk) 16:40, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, aside from the fact that you linked to a video that would be inconvenient for readers to use, your grammar was for shit, and there was considerable POV in the way you put it, I had no problem with your edit at all.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:10, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Jogged my memory

Your post to my talk page reminded me (I don't want to put this at WT:TFAR for the WP:BEANS factor); the regulars at TFA/R need to watch User:SandyGeorgia/Glitter and in particular, Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/DavidYork71 (I reverted and reported one yesterday). Thanks for the help on that FAC! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:54, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Heh heh, watched. If only people would put all that effort and imagination into constructive things ...--Wehwalt (talk) 01:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

They all have easy to recognize topics (Mumia Abu-Jamal, Avatar Airbender, Xena stuff ...), so I've started to recognize them ... what a waste of time. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)