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'''Support.''' I checked the page, wondering what is a Rock's Peony and I see it is a tree peony. Tree peony is the vernacular name I know. --] (]) 06:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC) '''Support.''' I checked the page, wondering what is a Rock's Peony and I see it is a tree peony. Tree peony is the vernacular name I know. --] (]) 06:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
:Google has about 88,700 hits for "tree peony" (quotes in the search term). --] (]) 06:34, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

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Suggested move to Paeonia rockii

It's no contest. Horticultural uses seem to prefer the species name invariably. Google counts:

Paeonia rockii - 9070
Rock's Peony - 527

I support the move to Paeonia rockii. --Rkitko 03:53, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

It's a false positive.

Rock's peony - 568,000 Badagnani (talk) 04:17, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
At first glance, there's a ton of false positives in your count. At least 20,000 of those pages don't refer to "Rock's Peony" but the cultivar "Peony 'Joseph Rock'". Without the quotes, you're also getting pages that mention both rocks and peonies that aren't meaning to refer to this species. Rkitko 04:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Badagnani, You're getting those skewed results because you didn't put Rock's Peony in quotes. Drill down and you'll see 'rock garden' and 'peony' as a typical result with your search. With the quotes, it goes back to Rkitko's numbers. Further, Google Books gives 26 results for "Paeonia rockii" and only 2 for "Rock's peony". Google Scholar is at a truly overwhelming 271 to 2. That's why I moved it in the first place. I don't think there's even a question in this case. First Light (talk) 04:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
You may be right about that. Badagnani (talk) 05:00, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Support the move to Paeonia rockii; we have a long-standing convention of using scientific names for plants, based on the fact that vernacular names are notoriously imprecise. In addition, Google hits is a very poor tool for determining the most widely used name. I see no convincing reason to depart from the norm for plant articles. Guettarda (talk) 06:27, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Support. I checked the page, wondering what is a Rock's Peony and I see it is a tree peony. Tree peony is the vernacular name I know. --Una Smith (talk) 06:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Google has about 88,700 hits for "tree peony" (quotes in the search term). --Una Smith (talk) 06:34, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
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