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Revision as of 04:14, 6 January 2009 editElonka (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Administrators70,960 edits clarifying with a couple diffs← Previous edit Revision as of 05:39, 6 January 2009 edit undoBackin72 (talk | contribs)5,347 edits Request: replyNext edit →
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==Request== ==Request==
Hiya, regarding the latest discussions on pseudoscientific topics, I have no opinion either way on what should go into the list. However, to make my job as an administrator easier, could I ask that you please try to keep the discussions and edit summaries a bit more neutral? Comments should focus on the article, not on contributors, and ditto with the edit summaries. If you do have concerns about any particular editor, there are better venues to express them (such as the arb case). That way the list talkpage can be kept strictly for discussion of the list itself. Or at least that is my fond hope. :) Thanks, --]]] 04:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC) Hiya, regarding the latest discussions on pseudoscientific topics, I have no opinion either way on what should go into the list. However, to make my job as an administrator easier, could I ask that you please try to keep the discussions and edit summaries a bit more neutral? Comments should focus on the article, not on contributors, and ditto with the edit summaries. If you do have concerns about any particular editor, there are better venues to express them (such as the arb case). That way the list talkpage can be kept strictly for discussion of the list itself. Or at least that is my fond hope. :) Thanks, --]]] 04:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

:Hi Elonka -- point well taken. In my defense, I don't want to make things worse, but everything I said is accurate, and I think ] allows some room to state things as they are. Look at the diffs you cited. What's worse: my that SA would make a false statement about my not discussing, or SA actually making that false statement? What's worse: my saying in an ES that he's misrepresenting the talk page, or his actually doing so? Apart from the last paragraph , I am speaking precisely of his edits, which are really pretty bad. I'll tone it down if you like, as I understand your point about better venues to discuss this. Still, I wonder if you really grok the points I'm making, and the fact that QG and SA are the real bad actors on that page. QuackGuru is majorly into ], and SA is basically just making stuff up. Do you see what I'm getting at? regards, ] (]) 05:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

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Retired This user is no longer active on Misplaced Pages as of January 2009.
Unfortunately, I've been the target of threats and harassment on-wiki.
Therefore, please do not release or repeat
any personal information connecting me with this account.
(Bummer, but what can I do? Goodbye.)
--Backin72 (n.b.) 23:13, 5 January 2009 (UTC)




Remember when WP:No personal attacks was an actual policy, not merely a guideline to be ignored if you're on a righteous crusade?

There is no bright-line rule about what constitutes a personal attack as opposed to constructive discussion, but some types of comments are never acceptable: ...

  • Using someone's affiliations as a means of dismissing or discrediting their views—regardless of whether said affiliations are mainstream.

I made the mistake of assuming this policy was taken seriously on WP.

Game over. Bad behavior won. --Backin72 (n.b.) 09:22, 1 January 2009 (UTC)




Welcome to Citizendium. We are looking for expert editors. -- Dēmatt (chat) 22:24, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Got that right. As usual your timing is exquisite. :-) BTW, sorry to redact, but I'm including no personal information on WP anymore. For purposes of this site, I'm a brain in a vat using an advanced augmentative and alternative communication device. cheers, Backin72 (n.b.) 08:56, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Greetings. I hope you stick around. I understand your decision and will still support you as an honest and well-meaning editor. Good luck. -- Fyslee (talk) 18:38, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Yeah man, I've been on the road to where good intentions lead for too long to turn around now.  ;-) Hope your New Year brings peace and good times. --Backin72 (n.b.) 09:54, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Request

Hiya, regarding the latest discussions on pseudoscientific topics, I have no opinion either way on what should go into the list. However, to make my job as an administrator easier, could I ask that you please try to keep the discussions and edit summaries a bit more neutral? Comments should focus on the article, not on contributors, and ditto with the edit summaries. If you do have concerns about any particular editor, there are better venues to express them (such as the arb case). That way the list talkpage can be kept strictly for discussion of the list itself. Or at least that is my fond hope.  :) Thanks, --Elonka 04:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Elonka -- point well taken. In my defense, I don't want to make things worse, but everything I said is accurate, and I think WP:SPADE allows some room to state things as they are. Look at the diffs you cited. What's worse: my that SA would make a false statement about my not discussing, or SA actually making that false statement? What's worse: my saying in an ES that he's misrepresenting the talk page, or his actually doing so? Apart from the last paragraph here, I am speaking precisely of his edits, which are really pretty bad. I'll tone it down if you like, as I understand your point about better venues to discuss this. Still, I wonder if you really grok the points I'm making, and the fact that QG and SA are the real bad actors on that page. QuackGuru is majorly into WP:IDHT, and SA is basically just making stuff up. Do you see what I'm getting at? regards, Backin72 (n.b.) 05:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC)