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Meelar (talk) 00:52, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)

HKWNB, HKCOTW, Current events

Hi. I noticed you have edited some Hong Kong-related articles. You might be interested to take a look at HK wikipedians' notice board, HK Collaboration of the Week and Current events in Hong Kong and Macao. Happy editing! — Instantnood 21:24, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

Shing Mun River picture

This picture is a really great one. Do you have a picture of the present-day Sha Tin taken from the same angle? :-D — Instantnood 21:30, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons

Your edits

Hello, and welcome to the Misplaced Pages community. I am here to say that your edits to the Hong Kong-related articles have frequently been extremely disruptive to the articles. Since you are new here to wikipedia, you may or may not know how things are done here, however your deletion of certian information does not follow protocols. For example, when you deleted the word "national" from Hong Kong, were you aware that this is the standard template for all semi-independent countries?

Also, when you removed the image of the Hang Seng Index, which was done without any relevant discussion because I am quite fond of that image, you also deleted the link to the History of Hong Kong article.

On another note, while you have been uploading many images related to Hong Kong, you have not listed the source for any of them. Please do not forget to include the source of every image, as Misplaced Pages makes a concerted effort to use non-copyrighted images only. If you took the images yourself, please state as such, otherwise without a source the images could very well be deleted. Thank you. Páll 23:31, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Edits to Hong Kong

I appreciate what you have done to the transport section. But as you know the article has been nominated as an FAC candidate of late, and some guys are just saying the paragraphs are too lengthy and tedious to read; summerisation, in other words, is urgently needed. I would remove part of your edit, but please do not think your data is of no avail. That's the rule of game, and I hope you can understand. :) -- Jerry Crimson Mann 3 July 2005 14:05 (UTC)

Your Help is Needed!

Hi Alan Mak!

So happy that we have our Hong Kong article promoted to be an WP:FAC, gaining an overwhelming popularity. I think it's not the time to cool down our ambition. The page flag of Hong Kong is now asking for your helping hand! I have greatly modelled it on flag of South Africa and flag of India, plus some brand-new illustrations added which is drawn by me with Flash, and the standard of the article has been greatly boosted, and, nearly, lived up to the feature article's standard. Still, some crucial information is absent, and that's whay your help is urgently needed!

What you can help

The following information are still missing:

• Symbolism, e.g. the meaning of the design, the bauhinia flower, the red-coloured background, etc.
• History
• Photos, e.g. Flag raising ceremony at Golden Bauhinia Square, Flags in parade, desecration cases (I think Long Hair have tried that before ;-P), etc.

Being an active and endeavourous wikipedian, you are now asked to collaborate on this project at full stretch — and to show your pride of being a HK wikipedian!

Yours sincerely, Jerry Crimson Mann 6 July 2005 15:25 (UTC)

Well, it's your choice, isn't it? Anyway, I love your photos very much. Maybe you should take a picture of flag raising ceremony at the Golden Bauhinia Square if you wish. :)

PS Surely we can nominate more HK-related articles for nomination -- if they have the standard of an FAC. If you're unwilling to help with Flag of Hong Kong, maybe you can help in peer review later on, giving opinions or doing some proofread. :-D -- Jerry Crimson Mann 8 July 2005 14:26 (UTC)

Standardisation of maps

I see you're trying to add district maps into aticles about districts of Hong Kong. Good start! :-) But the design of the map is not that satisfactory. You may want to take a look at Image:Map of New York highlighting NYC.jpg. I think we have to standardise the district maps in the following ways:

• name: Map of HKSAR highlighting DISTRICTNAME
• layout:

• • Caption: The position of DISTRICTNAME in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region
  • Image size:320px
  • External link: Add Google's satellite map, marked as "details".

I've got the uncoloured map outline in my PC (in Macromedia Flash format, i.e. *.swf). You are welcomed to ask me for the map at any time. :) -- Jerry Crimson Mann 8 July 2005 10:08 (UTC)

Can you show me the example of a Taiwan city? Many thanks. Actually the main purpose of the map is to show where a Hong Kong district is within the territory, but not to tell others where Hong Kong is with in the PRC's territory. The zoom-out map is somehow redundant, as it has been shown in the page of Hong Kong. Very likely, the zoom-out maps in every district map would be exactly the same, which has in fact lost its significance. Paleness is not a problem; after all, we need to stick to the standard routine. You can contact me via icq @ 48299807. :)

Gee. Thanks for yuor speedy response. Let's collaborate on this interesting project. :) -- Jerry Crimson Mann 15:23, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Bus spotting

Per Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/Bus enthusiast, that article has now been merged into bus spotting. I did the merge myself, so please feel free to check the resulting article and correct any discrepancies you find in my work. Cheers! -- BDAbramson 19:15, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

Map

Straight to the point now:

• First your colour scheme is no good, to be honest: khaki can's go with pink like that. =.= Perhaps we should make a reference of some web design websites, and see whether we can grab some stunning inspiration. ;-)
• I think we should make a discussion later on with all HK wikipedian, which is of grave importance, collecting their opinions and, subsequently, reaching a consensus. Everything else is a comprise.
• Your image format, i.e. JPEG, is not really suitable for map making. Pixerisation and loss of quality would be the outcome if you reduce the size of the picures. I think PNG format would be much better off in creating district maps.
• I like your modification of the template. Btw, is "Hong Kong Special Administrative Region" just a bit lengthy? :-)

-- Jerry Crimson Mann 14:23, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Reply:

• OK, hope we can have a discussion on map-drawing within days.
• Despite a wide-ranging colour scheme supported, there's a serious pixerisation and a loss of quality when reducing the size of a Jpeg image. Gif images have no such problems, but can store 256 colours. No distortion of image quality would happen in PNG while possessing numerous colours.
• I go along with you on the issue of the full name of the HKSAR.
• Cantonese Misplaced Pages? I'd love to see if there's one...:) -- Jerry Crimson Mann 06:25, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

About the Macau Region Map

I have written something on Image talk:AdministrativeDivisionOfMacao.png about the English name of the Macau-Taipa Bridge. Also I found the Portuguese Name of the places. I hope they are helpful for you.--HeiChon~XiJun 17:32:33, 2005-08-03 (UTC)

I've got your message. I've asked my cousin how to translate those words in Portuguese by sending an offline ICQ msg. I think I can tell you soon.--HeiChon~XiJun 07:41:53, 2005-08-04 (UTC)

The Portuguese Names are solved

I have posted them of the Image talk. Go and see them!--HeiChon~XiJun 03:49:24, 2005-08-05 (UTC)

Stop conflicts

I thought we could deal with things in a more peaceful manner...but the situation seems to be pretty the opposite. You said my use of "masterpiece" was humiliating. But I don't think so (see my explanation in the discussion page). Please calm down for the time being (I'm also trying to do so, though it's hard...) and get the conflicts fixed. After all, argument doesn't help with contribution.

Hope we could get things OK soon. -- Jerry Crimson Mann 08:24, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Re: Phonetic symbols

The naming conventions and manual of style of Misplaced Pages advise editors to include at list one way of romanisation in brackets for equivalent of titles in other languages if it is non-roman letter-based. Unlike Mandarin and Pinyin, there is no standardised and widely-recognised romanisation method for Cantonese, and therefore I include both. IPA is advised by Misplaced Pages for pronunciation, while Jyutping is, in my opinion, one of the most well-established for Cantonese. The only solution to avoid the long length would be moving towards the Korean-related topics style, that is, to have an infobox for different written forms and romanisation methods on the right hand side of the page. I'm actually working on the template of a similar infobox (well, you know what I'm occupied by lately), and I'd love to hear your comment and opinion. — Instantnood 08:28, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Let's see what will the community prefer. I myself prefer the infobox style to inline text. Pinyin is recognised by the UN, and as far as I remember, ISO. Jyutping is not having the same status as Pinyin is to Mandarin. There are other also well-established systems, such as Yale. In comparison, IPA is a universal standard that everyone can read. — Instantnood 08:53, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Right. — Instantnood 09:06, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Get ready?

I'm darn sure that Urban council and Regional Council would be become the winners of Hong Kong Collaboration of the Week! So be quick to prepare ingredients for these articles! :-) -- Jerry Crimson Mann 16:04, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Centre and Center

Hello Alan I noticed you've uploaded a picture of New World Centre. Have you got a picture of Cheung Kong Center or The Center too? — Instantnood 07:12, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Well in fact I noticed your picture added to Hong Kong English at special:recentchangeslinked/List of Hong Kong-related topics. Cheung Kong Center, the headquarters of Cheung Kong Holdings, is at 2 Garden Road, Central. I'm looking for its picture because of its spelling, for comparison with New World Centre. Not sure if it's politically incorrect. Most shops in Festival Walk do not have Chinese names on their signboards either. Don't forget CITIC is one of the shareholders of Festival Walk. :-D — Instantnood 08:37, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Hi! A late reply.

Sorry, I just noticed your message in my talk page.....

My cousin was studied in Portugal and he is now a pharmacist in there. He was educated by Portuguese since Kindergarden in Macau. My msn: francis_cheong@yahoo.com.hk--HeiChon~XiJun 16:32:39, 2005-08-24 (UTC)

Railways in China

Hi. Thanks for your contributions at List of railways in China, but may I ask that the links be done according to the conventions set here. Much appreciated. Colipon+(T) 20:23, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Vietnamese

Hello, u know Vietnamese? how did u get that phrase? That's great!!! :P --K.C. Tang 01:24, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

um......i did play a lot of icq when i am younger (many years ago!!!), but i am a bit of an "old cake" :( now, and, u know, when one grows older, one won't enjoy too much the way ICQ/MSN works (I dun know y!). I know the Talking System in Wiki is not very good, and yes, one may say, quite troublesome, but I prefer using this not-too-efficient way of communication. Thanks for your kindness :P --K.C. Tang 04:06, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Ah, Alan, it seems that u r knowledgable about Spanish! An interesting anecdote. ^_^ --K.C. Tang 05:03, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

um...i try to teach myself some languages only when i have leisure and energy, but i am not verbally gifted, so my progress is always unusually slow. German is a very interesting language, and i particulary enjoy German grammar (i know it sounds a bit freakish), sometimes i would take out my little German grammar to read as if i am reading an erotica ... --K.C. Tang 06:40, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

laundromat picture

I've removed your laudromat picture from the Solar cell page. I may be mistaken, but it looks like a solar thermal installation (there are pipes, the thickness is important etc.) and not like photovoltaic pannels. Therefore, it is not related with the solar cell article (If those are really solar cells, revert my edit, but gives us some information about what kind of cell they are please) Your photo appears also on the pages Solar power and laundromat. If I am right, you need to change the caption on those pages to properly describe the installation. Glaurung 11:28, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

German version

Hello, I've noticed that u've started the German article. do u have some kind of German word processor to help u? how could u remember all the declensions and genders? Amazing!!! Salute ^_^ --K.C. Tang 12:49, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Alan's actually studying the German language in the States. ;-) -- Jerry Crimson Mann 15:31, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

indeed! Add oil! Mit freundlichen Grüßen --K.C. Tang 05:17, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Of course I'm not qualified to do that, y not try to ask a native German wiki? --K.C. Tang 06:43, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Chinese Provinces

Hello, I'm interested in where you got the province boundaries for your map titled 'TibetanPlateau.jpg'. Did you draw them in by hand, looking at another map, or were you able to find vector data with the same projection as the underlying Demis map? Please let me know if you can. Thanks very much, —Papayoung 20:44, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Sai chaan

In response to your edit summary, I believe it's acceptable to use a non-English vocabulary in italic form. As for the infobox, I did not actually propose to do so, I just mentioned the Korean example, and said that can be an alternative. If you're testing the template, please seek community consensus on that, and please don't put that up on so many articles before any discussion has ever taken place. — Instantnood 17:08, 30 October 2005 (UTC)