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(od) Various editors are listed in ] who are likely to be mentioned shortly in Findings of Fact. They may not all be aware of this case. Could they be notified urgently please? — ] <sup>]</sup> 08:18, 18 March 2009 (UTC) | (od) Various editors are listed in ] who are likely to be mentioned shortly in Findings of Fact. They may not all be aware of this case. Could they be notified urgently please? — ] <sup>]</sup> 08:18, 18 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
:. Cheers, ] (]) 08:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Palestine-Israel articles 5 | (t) (ev / t) (ws / t) (pd / t) | 21 Dec 2024 | 11 Jan 2025 |
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Pending Requests
All work relating to pending requests on WP:RfAr
- I'll close up Ayn Rand the first thing in the morning. Apologies for the delay. - Mailer Diablo 13:27, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Open Cases
All work relating to Arbitration cases already opened
Scientology
- Clerks, please help maintain the clarity and relevance of evidence in Scientology by moving inappropriate commentary to the talk page, paying particular attention to sections that do not provide relevant evidence. — Coren 03:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- As a note, that case is nominaly Penwhale's, but if he didn't get to it in a few hours could some other clerk please give him a hand? — Coren 03:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- Penwhale, do you need a hand here?--Tznkai (talk) 23:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Penwhale appears to have gone inactive (last edit on the 29th, and the previous one dating some three days prior); could some other clerk please take over swiftly until his return, to manage the situation on the evidence and workshop pages which do not appear to have improved since? — Coren 23:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'll get to it when I can, but elections are my first priority - could I have at least one other clerk assist me?--Tznkai (talk) 15:12, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Penwhale appears to have gone inactive (last edit on the 29th, and the previous one dating some three days prior); could some other clerk please take over swiftly until his return, to manage the situation on the evidence and workshop pages which do not appear to have improved since? — Coren 23:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, still no action and the problem is getting worse. I posted evidence overnight. Jayen posted a commentary upon it (which he labeled as a commentary in his section header), and after I requested he move it to the evidence talk, he expanded it as evidence. Justanother is acting similarly. This case is difficult enough under the best of circumstances. Clerking is badly needed. Durova 20:48, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
- Request noted. I will try and ping a clerk and get some eyes on this. Carcharoth (talk) 03:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, I went through and moved most of the commentary to the talk page, should be good now. MBisanz 04:41, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 05:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- One of the editors reverted MBisanz. Durova 06:35, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 05:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, I went through and moved most of the commentary to the talk page, should be good now. MBisanz 04:41, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- I've been slightly swarmed by school-related work these days. I'd love another pair of eyes on it, as it's hard to sort through ~250kb of data with just one person. And for the record, which edit of MBisanz was reverted? - Penwhale | 07:08, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Never mind, just checked. In this case, I don't mind too much (as it's a direct counter-argument). If it goes into deep discussion then move would be appropriate. - Penwhale | 07:10, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hi Penwhale, best wishes with your studies. Here's the diff. Durova 07:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- ec'd with you. If that's ok, fine. It's been a very strange case. Best regards. Durova 07:14, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hi Penwhale, best wishes with your studies. Here's the diff. Durova 07:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
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The evidence page is seeing an increasing amount of material regarding editors who are not named parties to the case. For instance, this recent post. The editor who submitted that has been in arbitration before and is aware of the process for requesting that new parties be added. Also, when a new editor named Tory Christman submitted essay-style evidence without any diffs he requested that her evidence be withdrawn, yet later submitted essay-style evidence himself. The evidence page is becoming difficult to read due to irrelevant clutter. Could we have a review of the page and judicious clerking? Thanks for volunteering in this tedious area; I don't know how you folks have the patience for it. Best regards, Durova 20:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
About a week ago I posted a concern that the Scientology case was filling up with evidence about editors who are not named parties to the case--and that this was cluttering the evidence page and making it difficult to read. Since that time the problem has grown. May I ask how this is being managed? Durova 23:37, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
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Would someone mind delinking all the headers on the /evidence page please to make it easier to link to please? Thanks in advance – Roger Davies 08:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Is there anyone around who could do this please? – Roger Davies 05:23, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks very much! Can everyone note that this should be done routinely on all cases from now on please, along with keeping headers to a manageable length? Thanks, again. – Roger Davies 05:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- That can be done by changing the header, if needed, in the template pages. - Penwhale | 17:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yup, that would be best. – Roger Davies 05:43, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- I've delinked all the evidence headings except Date Delinking and MZMcBride, where I am recused as involved. MBisanz 08:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you once again, – Roger Davies 08:32, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- I've delinked all the evidence headings except Date Delinking and MZMcBride, where I am recused as involved. MBisanz 08:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yup, that would be best. – Roger Davies 05:43, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- That can be done by changing the header, if needed, in the template pages. - Penwhale | 17:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks very much! Can everyone note that this should be done routinely on all cases from now on please, along with keeping headers to a manageable length? Thanks, again. – Roger Davies 05:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
(od) Various editors are listed in Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Scientology/Evidence#New evidence by Cirt who are likely to be mentioned shortly in Findings of Fact. They may not all be aware of this case. Could they be notified urgently please? — Roger Davies 08:18, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 08:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Active/inactive arbitrators
- This list will be used to set the number of active Arbitrators and the case majority on cases as they open. As of 19 February 2009, there are 15 active Arbitrators, and the majority is therefore 8 for all new cases (that is, those accepted after the "as of" date). See WP:AC/C/P#Calculating the majority for help. The master list is at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee#Current members.
Active (as of 6 Mar 2009):
- Carcharoth
- Casliber
- Coren
- FayssalF
- FloNight
- Jayvdb
- Kirill Lokshin
- Newyorkbrad
- Risker
- Rlevse
- Roger Davies
- Sam Blacketer
- Stephen Bain
- Vassyana
- Wizardman
Away or inactive:
- Cool Hand Luke (For one week)
Arbitrator announcements
- Arbitrators, please note if you wish to declare yourself active or away/inactive, either generally or for specific cases. The clerks will update the relevant cases as needed. If you are returning, please indicate whether you wish to be: 1) Put back to active on all cases; 2) Left on inactive on all open cases, and only put to active on new cases; or 3) Left to set yourself to active on cases you wish (remember to update the majority on its /Proposed decision page).
FloNight's status
- Would a clerk mark me as inactive on Prem Rawat 2, Ayn Rand, Date delinking, and Scientology. I'm taking a break to catch up on some article work. Leave me active on West Bank vs. Judea and Samaria and MZMcBride (if they open). I'll let you all know when I'm ready to go active on all cases again. FloNight♥♥♥ 13:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- I've updated the ACA template and proposed decision templates of the affected templates as requested. Gazimoff 09:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Cool Hand Luke
- CHL just declared himself inactive for about a week.--Tznkai (talk) 00:25, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
General discussion
RFAR/AE
Even though this closed over a week ago, people are still posting comments. Should we protect the page and put a more noticeable archival template? MBisanz 02:32, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Me included there. The stuff I posted was in a notepad file from before it closed, I'd forgotten to get around to placing it. I've no problem it being moved if it's deemed necessary, away (sad waste) or to the talk (two links would need reformatting). Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 02:51, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Penwhale
Being extremely overwhelmed in real-life.. on top of a very stupid (and silly) speeding ticket that I'm going to court for (because I may potentially get my license suspended for a very annoying rule). Thought I'd offer an explanation. - Penwhale | 17:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Small fix to SemBubenny
FYI: I've editied SemBubenny to change numbering for "SemBubenny admonished and warned" from "1" to "1.4" to agree with the "Proposed decision" page. Paul August ☎ 14:02, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hm, I was unaware that was the way it needed to be done. I think it makes more sense to number it "1" opposed to "1.4" as, there is no 1.3, 1.2, ect... Maybe we should change this? Tiptoety 20:08, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- Personally, I would favor a sane renumbering accompanied with a link to the actual proposed section— but that has the potential of being a headache for the clerks. — Coren 03:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- There is already a link to the /proposed page on the main case page, as such any editor can click it and look for themselves. I guess skipping right to 1.4 without a 1.3, 1.2, and 1 does not make a lot of sense. Tiptoety 04:36, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Personally, I would favor a sane renumbering accompanied with a link to the actual proposed section— but that has the potential of being a headache for the clerks. — Coren 03:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Workshop guidance
I'm working on a draft at User:MBisanz/Draft for participants to better understand how to use the workshop page in cases. ANy improvements or comments are welcome. MBisanz 04:03, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Changes to Arbitration Statistics
FYI: I've made some changes to Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Statistics:
- All the "Arb activity" tables are now sortable (for example see: Arb activity (2009) — requests).
- The "Cases" section now tracks each case's drafter (see: Cases involving 2009 arbs only) and Arb activity (2009) — cases).
- The "Proposals" section now tracks the time order of each action (i.e. a support, oppose, or abstain) on each proposal. This is represented in the tables by appending to each "S", "O" and "A", a number indicating the order that each action occurred, (i.e 1 = first, 2 = second etc.). This allows for computing two new statistics for each arb, "firsts", which is the number of first actions -- generally indicative of being the drafter of the proposal -- and "AVR" (average vote rank), which is the average of the rank orders of an arb's actions on a proposal, following the first action (i.e. the average of the ranks > 1) -- giving an indicator of earlier versus later voting. So, for example for the five cases closed so far this year, encompassing 105 proposals, Coren with 38 "firsts" has apparently drafted about 36% of those 105 proposals, while Rlevse is on average the earliest voter with an AVR of 4.1 (see: Arb activity (2009) — case proposals).