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Re: Animal Names

Thanks for your comment. I don't really know what else I can add; it's possibly not the most verifiable fact in the world, but I thought it was worth adding - the only reference I have is that it was a cutting from a copy of Reader's Digest from perhaps 8 years ago, from their Q&A page. Somebody had written in asking questions about animal names, and (I presume) the Reader's Digest researcher gave that answer. If there's some information there that you think should be added to the article, please do. Apart from that, I don't really know much more about it; perhaps you could search for other references to the woman in question? Saccerzd (talk) 09:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I've said all I know - I don't have a reference, I just know it was in Readers Digest a few years ago. I'll see what I can do. Saccerzd (talk) 16:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I've also linked it to Juliana Barnes —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saccerzd (talk • contribs) 16:43, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Russian Jokes

Thank you for editing and referencing the Rzhevsky jokes. However, using euphemisms in translating "ебать" perhaps you should justify that decision on the talk page. Woland (talk) 19:33, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Did you read the internet addiction paper?

To try and predict problematic Internet use in the workplace, Davis and colleagues designed the Online Cognition Scale to screen for possible Internet-related problems. They found that traits of decreased impulse control and procrastination appear to predict troublesome Internet use, and that in turn, high scores on their Scale predicted reprimands for Internet abuse.

Do you have access to that paper? If you do, you should have used CTRL-F to find this reference to procrastination in the paper. I'm going to revert you. ImpIn | (t - c) 01:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

When you cite an article, you must enter information from this article inro wikiepdia, not just applend a paper reference to an existing paragraph. Wor example, are you seriously claiming that the journal article in question wrote "...or browsing and editing online encyclopedia articles (Misplaced Pages addiction)." ? Mukadderat (talk) 15:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

The paper supported the general conclusions of that paragraph. Sure, it could have used some minor editing, but not a wholesale deleting. There's no such "must" on Misplaced Pages -- if I find a paper that generally supports statements in the encyclopedia, that's fine. ImpIn | (t - c) 03:32, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Sayings

Until today, Sayings was a redirect to Saying, when a new user overwrote it as a virtual carbon copy of List of famous sayings — which is also up for AfD and very unlikely to survive. I felt this was not a controversial move so I speedy closed the AfD. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 16:03, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Afro-Australian

Hi - you wrote to me:

Matilda, you deleted: 20:23, 26 May 2008 Matilda (Talk | contribs) deleted "Afro-Australian" ‎ (POV fork )And it is protected from recreation now. Whatever it was, please notice there is "African Australian" page. Please consider redirecting there or do something else. signed 00:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

• No I am not prepared to redirect - per discussions at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/African Australian , Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Black-Africans in Australia and Misplaced Pages:Australian Wikipedians' notice board/Archive 29#confusing and overlapping pair of articles. In particular notice it is an inappropriately racist term invariably applied wrongly. People who wish to use the term need to think about what they are doing and find the correct links - redirection will only exacerbate inappropriate and racist editing. If you believe it is a valid term please take to DRV with substantiation. Regards Matilda 00:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi - very strong opinions :-) Thanks for understanding! --Matilda 00:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

review the disambig page Black Australians for validity: done :-) --Matilda 02:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Internet brigades

I would highly appreciate if you discuss all changes prior to making blind reverts. In reply to the criticism, I provided a new source with extensive citation of original Russian text and brief English summary (see talk page; this is now included in the article). If you have any specific objections, please make them at the article talk page and wait for reply. Thank you very much for understanding. Biophys (talk) 17:33, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Coulrophobia editing

This is in reference to the discussion about Coulrophobia, now in you Talk archive 2.

I agree that you cannot write rules about every mouseclick. The problems appear when someone removes something when there were actually reasons to keep it. From what I can see, you yourself agreed, in the Coulrophobia talk page, upon the suggestion that characters strongly associated with coulrophobia qualifies to appear in the article. When there obviously is a rule, not just a general one but one concerning how this specific article is to be written, why can we not use it?

If this rule is not enough, then maybe you could tell me why you did not follow the guideline "Trivia sections should not be categorically removed" in Misplaced Pages:Trivia?

You are now asking me about references. However, I know that you only ask rhetorically. Otherwise, you would have asked prior to removing anything, either in the article talk page or my talk page.

What kind of references are you really looking for? I did not make any claims about the issue, but merely described the way coulrophobia appeared in a show. The show in itself is of course a reliable, third-party, published source, proving that coulrophobia appears in television series.

My reason for writing about Stargate Atlantis, was to illustrate how coulrophobia is depicted in popular culture. Compared to others, who just wrote that a certain person in a certain episode is afraid of clowns, I wanted to give an accurate description, that could actually give some insights into the phenomenon (not just a list item). To achieve this, I spent quite some time, ensuring that the quote was exact and that the plot was described in as few words as possible, and also without writing a spoiler for the episodes.

Lastly, I'm wondering if the risk of losing a wikipedian is considered a cost, and what price you and others are willing to pay? Maybe there are reasons to handles these things carefully sometimes, if newly written paragraphs need to be removed immediately after submission, especially when the issue is not covered within the guidelines? Like I said, I spent a lot of time writing the paragraph, only to have it removed a few hours later. Because of this, I stopped updating Misplaced Pages when I received your answer (feel free to check the contributions log), almost three months ago. I have earlier worked hard to remove vandalism, but not written much myself. When I finally wrote something and had to feel like a vandal myself, it was not really fun contributing to Misplaced Pages anymore (and, frankly, I can think of a lot of things on which my time is better spent). I really read everything I could find before writing. I was sure that what I wrote would be appreciated, but I was wrong. Hopefully, I will in time regain my interest, but, in a similar situation, someone else might lose their interest altogether.

--τις (talk) 08:35, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Circassians

BTW, I noticed the the article Muhajir (Caucasus) says, "The term Çerkes, "Circassians", became the blanket term for them in Turkey because the majority were Adyghe." Perhaps you could give your input at the discussion here on whether Cherkes should be merged into Circassians. Thanks. Khoikhoi 23:36, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Essay template

Why did you do that? Tom Harrison 15:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Web Brigades

Dear Mukadderat.

I refer to your restoration of Polish section in Web Brigades article. I would like to remind you of the following Misplaced Pages policy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Exceptional_claims_require_exceptional_sources

Certain red flags should prompt editors to examine the sources for a given claim:

surprising or apparently important claims not covered by mainstream sources; reports of a statement by someone that seems out of character, embarrassing, controversial, or against an interest they had previously defended; claims that are contradicted by the prevailing view within the relevant community, or which would significantly alter mainstream assumptions, especially in science, medicine, history, politics, and biographies of living persons. This is especially true when proponents consider that there is a conspiracy to silence them. Exceptional claims in Misplaced Pages require high-quality sources; if such sources are not available, the material should not be included. Also be sure to adhere to other policies, such as the policy for biographies of living persons and the undue weight provision of Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view.

The source which supports claims you have restored is anonym. Could you prove us that this is an exceptional quality source?

Another issue is that your source should be verifiable. How could you verify a claim by the anonym? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.149.190.179 (talk) 04:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Dolna Mitropoliya municipality

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This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on the maintainer's talk page. CorenSearchBot (talk) 20:42, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Bulgarian municipalities

Moved to Talk:Pleven Province#Pleven province municipalities. Mukadderat (talk) 16:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi, great that you did create the individual municipality articles. Some days ago I started seperating municipalities form settlements in Croatia, but some people didn't like it so much. There was also a naming issue. Talk:Municipalities of Croatia. I think, if there are some countries acting as good examples the other may follow. Maybe you like to comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Bulgaria#Naming_of_municipalities - LocodeMaster (talk) 20:36, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD

The above AfD, linked in the header is now closed. The article is linked to the main page. You should first wait until it is no longer linked, or seek its removal (in this case, at DYK) before another AfD. Thank you. Synergy 19:10, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

RFC at WP:NOR-notice

A concern was raised that the clause, "a primary source may be used only to make descriptive claims, the accuracy of which is verifiable by any reasonable, educated person without specialist knowledge" conflicts with WP:NPOV by placing a higher duty of care with primary sourced claims than secondary or tertiary sourced claims. An RFC has been initiated to stimulate wider input on the issue. Professor marginalia (talk) 06:14, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Robert V. Gentry

An article that you have been involved in editing, Robert V. Gentry, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Robert V. Gentry. Thank you.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Borock (talk) 06:26, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

The recent death of Wikinews

The title was a pun, a play on words given that the story was about the "recent death" template and linking to Wikinews. Hiding T 21:39, 21 September 2009 (UTC)