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If you're going to involve yourself in deletion issues, you'll really save yourself a lot of stress if you think a bit about how things might be received. Like I said, if you stick to just improving articles at risk of deletion, and using the project to improve such, then you can't go wrong. The more you drag it into broader inclusion-deletion wars, the more drama you're going to create for yourself and the project. ] (]) 14:16, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
If you're going to involve yourself in deletion issues, you'll really save yourself a lot of stress if you think a bit about how things might be received. Like I said, if you stick to just improving articles at risk of deletion, and using the project to improve such, then you can't go wrong. The more you drag it into broader inclusion-deletion wars, the more drama you're going to create for yourself and the project. ] (]) 14:16, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
: ikip, I just want to chime in here and say we need to be able to discuss this without accusing each other of bad faith. If we can't do that, there's no point on continuing our discussion, and we may as well invite a group of independent editors to deal with it. I can understand why you might assume bad faith from AMiB. I don't understand how you can do it from me, and continue to push comments about me and WP:FICT that are both incorrect and irrelevant. If you don't think that I would make the same criticisms should a deletionist contact hundreds of other deletionists to join some Misplaced Pages space and subsequently link to various policy discussions, then you don't know me very well, and you're assuming bad faith. I know it's hard to have a discussion about your behavior and not take it personally. I hope that you can look at the number of times I've tried to disagree with you in a way that's constructive and helpful. But the only other thing I can point out is that I'm not looking for a punishment, because I don't think you've done anything with malice, bad faith, or even awareness of the full consequences. I just want the problematic recruitment and discussion-linking to stop, and my hope is that some neutral party will help you to understand why you should do it voluntarily. I think we're going to have to get outside input on this issue anyway. But if we inevitably do, I'd rather it were at a forum where we were talking about the appropriate use of ARS, and not at a forum where we have to start discussing personal attacks and assumptions of bad faith. That part is really up to you. ] (]) 18:44, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
I now have 20+ barnstars, but like a good monkey, I had to press the little button 2,869 times before I got my first prize. :(
The BLP Barnstar
I hereby award you this shiny barnstar for your efforts to alert Wikiprojects about how to locate BLPs for their projects and invite their participation in the discussion that would affect potentially all projects with a mass deletion (50,000 by most estimates) of "unsourced" BLPs. Your notice was such a good idea and sharing those links will help push some of those most familiar with the topics to help the articles at risk. Keep up the great work! -- Banjeboi12:43, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
For perpetually defending Misplaced Pages's intended and most valuable purpose: catalogging human knowledge. I hope you had a nice Valentine's Day! Sincerely, A Nobody00:29, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Defender of the Noble Spirt of Misplaced Pages
For your noble and unbreakable spirit of inclusion, mentorship and fraternity towards your fellow editors and the Wikipedian community. --Grancafé (talk) 02:01, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Barnstar of the Lamp For The Huddled Masses
For your pure intentioned dedication to speaking for those who do not speak, the wretched refuse of the teeming shores of the internet, providing a lamp of illumination. ----Milowent (talk) 03:20, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For all your work in these difficult days: notifying Wikiprojects, discussing on the RfC's, exposing rogue editors/admins behaviour and also for this exceptional comment, which definitely proves what is the real problem of Misplaced Pages these days. We need more brilliant editors like you! Cyclopia13:08, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
The Guidance Barnstar
Hi Okip, this barnstar is for your tireless efforts in helping, orienting and encouraging newcomers and novice editors, like me. Thanks, --Grancafé (talk) 15:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Grand Coffee Vizir Barnstar
For your generousous hard work, courage and distinguished dedication to the noble cause of coffee, you are conferred this Grand Coffee Vizir award of high distinction and accomplishment. Congratulations! --Grancafé (talk) 18:23, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar may be awarded to those that show a pattern of going the extra mile to be nice, without being asked
Even though I almost always seem to disagree with you, I admire all the hard work you put in to whatever controversy seems to be engulfing Misplaced Pages this week! HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 17:25, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Awarded 20 January 2007 to Travb for his valiant defense of the Misplaced Pages mission to produce a neutral encyclopedia. Athaenara
The Article Rescue Barnstar
For your tireless effort to save notable articles at AfD. Honestly, your commitment to fighting unnecessary deletions is extraordinary! SMSpivey (talk) 02:27, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I award you this barnstar for your continued and tireless efforts to keep Misplaced Pages a welcome place for all editors... from your graciousness and guidence to newcomers who might feel "put off" when their own initial efforts end up at AfD... to your efforts to maintain the integrity of the project and its articles. The job is never-ending, and yet you continue... even when your efforts are sometimes considered as overzealous. Keep up the good fight, but with patience... as Don Quixote is not the only one to find honor in tilting at windmills. Schmidt,20:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
A Lucky Penny
In the spirit of funding that is sweeping the country this penny is offered to Editor:Ikip for his incredible WikiWorld endeavors:----Buster7 (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
have noticed the announcements at several pages and applaud your courtesy in sharing the news that such a discussion is going on, as thousands of affected editors would otherwise have no idea that the fates of so many articles was being determined or where to even look for such a discussion. Well done. I am surprised that others have not themselves been as proactive in seeking a wider consensus for such an important and far-reaching proposal. This thing could impact nearly three quarters of a million articles. Good job!!! Wow. Schmidt,18:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
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United_States_v._Stanley the United States Supreme Court found that a serviceman could not file a tort action against the federal government, even though the government secretly administered doses of LSD to the serviceman as part of an experimental program, because his injuries were found by the lower court to be service-related.
For your elegant and clear solution to some vexing situations I hereby award you this shiny barnstar you can play catch with or trade for superpowers or even put on a display shelf for all to behold and admire. The Article Rescue Squadron is a band of troupers who work in stressful environments to save content worth keeping and your help is very much appreciated. -- Banjeboi11:52, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your successful efforts in strengthening the content and character of Misplaced Pages. Your work is greatly appreciated. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
I hearby award this barnstar to Ikip due to his heroic campaigning for the noble cause of including valuable and interesting articles in the peoples encyclopaedia. FeydHuxtable (talk) 16:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
I hereby award this Barnstar to Ikip for his excellent idea to reduce conflict by pre-empting potentially heated AfD debates with a suggestion that articles be userfied, so new users can still work to improve their work, while deletionists are happy as problem articles are removed from mainspace. Everyone's a winner! FeydHuxtable (talk) 10:42, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
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The Original Barnstar
For cutting process, getting crap out of mainspace and helping newbies not to feel bitten all at the same time, a singular achievement. Guy (Help!) 20:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
This project does not exist to help editors grow a thicker skin. Our mission is to build an encyclopedia, not establish limits for low-level abuse that we think our volunteer editors should be willing to suffer. If we drive away more people than we attract, then it's a genuine loss to the project and we should fix it rather than label those who would prefer to work in a civil environment as "thin skinned." -- User:Cool Hand Luke
The problem is that our enforcement of civility and NPA has historically been quite selective. If you're unpopular or unpowerful and criticizing somebody popular or powerful, you are likely to be blocked. The other way around, not so much. We ought to come up with objective standards and stick to them. -- User:Jehochman
A reliable measure of prejudice is how many mistakes a person gets forgiven. --Durova
For your elegant and clear solution to some vexing situations I hereby award you this shiny barnstar you can play catch with or trade for superpowers or even put on a display shelf for all to behold and admire. The Article Rescue Squadron is a band of troupers who work in stressful environments to save content worth keeping and your help is very much appreciated. -- Banjeboi11:52, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
This is the work area for a straw poll for the WP:Article Rescue Squadron, it is treated as a userpage, as per WP:User page: "In general it is considered polite to avoid substantially editing another's user page without their permission." I have invited a half dozen editors to edit and build this section.
Can Article Rescue Squadron behave like all other wikiprojects
Misplaced Pages editors in other wikiprojects are pretty much free to post whatever links they want, this includes deletion reviews, articles for deletion, etc. should Article Rescue Squadron be able to also?
Hello, Ikip. As a member of the Article Rescue Squadron, I wanted to let you know that we are having a straw poll about what direction the Article Rescue Squadron should take.
See, this is where you need to be careful if you don't want to stir up more drama than you need to. The project as it stands is on fairly strong ground; improving and referencing articles can't really be challenged.
Inviting masses of inclusionists (on that basis), however, isn't really a good look. They might well be people who would be interest, but it looks like you're just trying to stack votes; this sort of partisan stuff goes down badly on Misplaced Pages, and leads to drama pretty much every time. It might have grown the group significantly, but it's also dragged it into controversy, and not just because of its numbers.
If you're going to involve yourself in deletion issues, you'll really save yourself a lot of stress if you think a bit about how things might be received. Like I said, if you stick to just improving articles at risk of deletion, and using the project to improve such, then you can't go wrong. The more you drag it into broader inclusion-deletion wars, the more drama you're going to create for yourself and the project. Rebecca (talk) 14:16, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
ikip, I just want to chime in here and say we need to be able to discuss this without accusing each other of bad faith. If we can't do that, there's no point on continuing our discussion, and we may as well invite a group of independent editors to deal with it. I can understand why you might assume bad faith from AMiB. I don't understand how you can do it from me, and continue to push comments about me and WP:FICT that are both incorrect and irrelevant. If you don't think that I would make the same criticisms should a deletionist contact hundreds of other deletionists to join some Misplaced Pages space and subsequently link to various policy discussions, then you don't know me very well, and you're assuming bad faith. I know it's hard to have a discussion about your behavior and not take it personally. I hope that you can look at the number of times I've tried to disagree with you in a way that's constructive and helpful. But the only other thing I can point out is that I'm not looking for a punishment, because I don't think you've done anything with malice, bad faith, or even awareness of the full consequences. I just want the problematic recruitment and discussion-linking to stop, and my hope is that some neutral party will help you to understand why you should do it voluntarily. I think we're going to have to get outside input on this issue anyway. But if we inevitably do, I'd rather it were at a forum where we were talking about the appropriate use of ARS, and not at a forum where we have to start discussing personal attacks and assumptions of bad faith. That part is really up to you. Randomran (talk) 18:44, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
