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January 2009

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to List of past Emmerdale characters (2000-), did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 14:22, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

"List of Hollyoaks characters" and such like

Hey. I take it you are still in the process of re-constructing the lists of various minor and recurring Hollyoaks characters. I think the new system works better, although I've noticed a few older pages that still contain lists of characters, as well as a few redlinks here and there. If you need any help, give me a shout and I'll see what I can do :). ~~ 13:39, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

No content in Category:Irish terrorists

Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Category:Irish terrorists, by another Misplaced Pages user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Category:Irish terrorists has been empty for at least four days, and its only content has been links to parent categories. (CSD C1).

To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Category:Irish terrorists, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Feel free to contact the bot operator if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. To see the user who deleted the page, click here CSDWarnBot (talk) 16:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of minor Hollyoaks characters (1997)

An article that you have been involved in editing, List of minor Hollyoaks characters (1997), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of minor Hollyoaks characters (1997). Thank you. Ipatrol (talk) 00:24, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Brian Ronksley

A tag has been placed on Brian ronksley requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done because the article, which appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Misplaced Pages guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Goosemanrocks (talk) 16:32, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Criminal intent episodes

I see you are working on improving these articles. Do you think you could possibly improve the plot descriptions so it says what actually happens in the plot, not just sets up the story? We do not use teasers, and the conclusion has to be given in order to be encyclopedic. I know you didn't start these articles, so its not your fault, but perhaps you know enough to be able to fix them. (& of course it wouldn't hurt to find a review or 3rd party description of each episode, to head off those who want to delete fiction material from Misplaced Pages. DGG (talk) 04:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

R from merge

Please don't remove {{R from merge}} as you did here unless the article doesn't contain history that has been merged to another article. Do you know what {{R from merge}} is for? -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

March 2009

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. It appears that you recently tried to give Lexi Nicholls a different title by copying its content and pasting it into Lexi King. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Misplaced Pages has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other articles that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Misplaced Pages:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. Ricksy (talk) 02:20, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Reverting against consensus

Please note that Brent Wilson (musician) was redirected to Panic at the Disco as the result of this AFD. TheJazzDalek (talk) 18:32, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

April 2009

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Heaven And Earth (Band). When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Victão Lopes 01:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

EastEnders template

Hi, please can you note that the EastEnders template is now included on every EastEnders page, not just present characters, so please don't remove it. This is to aid navigation - someone reading about Jase Dyer might be interested to know about the the history of the show or the theme tune, for example. AnemoneProjectors (what?) 17:45, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Thomas Milner

The next time you make a change to a template like template:Speakers of the Virginia House of Burgesses, would you please make a change that fits the existing format? Oh, and an edit summary would be nice, too. Rklear (talk) 19:02, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Category:Uncategorised Radio articles

Hey, just letting you know I depopulated and deleted this category. Putting an article into an "uncategorized" category isn't particularly helpful or useful. Thanks. GlassCobra 18:05, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Notice: An article you edited has been proposed for deletion

Please see the "Spur Act of 1887" discussion page for details. --Kbob (talk) 18:46, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of Hey Arnold characters

An article you have edited may be deleted. Take a look: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Lila Sawyer Hellerick (talk) 11:16, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Home and Away Hits

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Home and Away Hits, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

WP:NOTLIST

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Misplaced Pages is not" and Misplaced Pages's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Jonathan Hall (talk) 11:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Bad news

Another contributor nominated a long list of articles for deletion -- including the article you started on the fictional character Adam Cameron.

The deletion policies strongly recommend that the nominator tell you when they nominate an article you started for deletion. I can't explain why this very experienced contributor failed to comply with the policies' recommendations.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 16:54, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Also:

• Nicole Franklin

Hi!

I got your reply. I think the challengers have raised some valid questions. The most important valid question they raise has to do with basing the articles on reliable sources. The reliable sources guideline is not itself a policy, but it is based on the verifiability policy -- one of the original and most important policies.

I think the challengers should have first raised those valid questions on the articles' talk pages, or on the talk pages of the contributors. The challengers claim they DID try to explain their concerns with those contributing to these articles. If this were true I would have expected to see a record of their efforts to explain their concerns. And I didn't see any evidence of this. Several of the people contributing to these articles have talk pages that are empty. No one has ever written to them.

If you think you are a good-faith contributor, who has never had the challengers explain their concerns about these articles in a way that was clear to you, I'd encourage you to leave a brief note to that effect on the {{afd}}.

I am not that familiar with the particular wrinkles in policy that surround articles on fictional characters. But I think I know enough to recognize that some of the challengers have skipped some important steps.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 22:29, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Hi Conquistador2k6. I can assure you there is no witch hunt regarding Home and Away and I would ask that you try to assume good faith, as we are also being reminded to do. We are just very concerned that this subject area has become a real mess and is currently not complying with a variety of Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Even most of those who disagree with the AFD nomination disagree for process reasons but agree that this subject area needs to be cleaned up.

The key problem with the articles is that very few of them cite any sources for material and most of the time when sources are cited they are to forums and fan pages and such and not to any resources that would qualify as reliable sources. As it says below the edit box, "content must be verifiable" and unfortunately the vast majority of these articles are not verifiable and do not cite any reliable sources. The other concern is notability as many of the characters don't seem to meet the notability guidelines. If you do google searches for many of these characters, they bring up relatively few hits and most are just to TV and fan pages, forums etc, rather than reliable sources, and the few newspaper articles that come up are usually just mentions in passing in an article about the show or the actor. Of course, google hits aren't the "be all" for determining notability, but they are often a good indicator for pop culture topics and current film and television subjects and honestly I would expect that a notable character currently appearing in an award winning TV show shown around the world would get more than a few thousand hits if they were notable. Take for example "Nicole Franklin" which gets less than 3,000 hits and only 160 distinct hits (see ) and scanning through the results list, most appear to be Misplaced Pages and its mirrors, youtube, fan sites and so forth. The bulk of the Home and Away characters are in the same boat and this is a big problem. Finally, the other key problem with these character articles is the way they are written. Most of the material is written like fan pages, rather than encyclopedia articles and the extensive blow-by-blow "storyline" essays are especially problematic as they are often written in an in-universe style, with lots of editorialising, original research and opinions. It seems like the likely outcome will be most of the character articles will be redirected to a central list which will just contain basic information, with character articles only for notable characters (like Sally, for example) but these will have to be written in a way that complies with policy.

I've suggested to other fans of the show that if they want to write extensive articles about Home and Away, they might consider starting a Home and Away wiki at Wikia, like the Lostpedia which was created for Lost (tv show) and because the material has been released under the WP:GFDL/CC-SA-3.0 licenses all the articles here can be copied and taken to another site, as long as credit is given for where they came from, so that is another alternative the fans might like to consider. Any fans who are interested in helping to write Misplaced Pages articles on the notable characters which complies with Misplaced Pages's content policies and guidelines and generally helping to bring this subject area in line with policy, would be most welcome to help us and work with us on doing so and I am willing to provide any advice or assistance I can to users who are trying to write compliant articles, but we really need to bring this subject area in line with policy. Regards, Sarah 03:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)