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| ''Gothic Music'' is a relatively invovled term, in that it is necessary to distinguish it as used to mean '''goth music''', whilst also being used to completely expell this meaning. | |||
| ''Gothic Music'' is a relatively invovled term, in that it is necessary to distinguish it as distinct (but by no means whatsoever exclusive) of the term ]. Goth music is a relatively narrow selection of genres encompassing mainly ] and some ], ], ], ] etc. normally heavily linked with the ]. Gothic Music however is a distinct term referring to music that fits within the classic ], rather than the goth subculture: that is, music with a dark air that embraces themes of nature, excess and decay over order, logic and reason, often with a bent towards the supernatural. | |||
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| == Goth Music == | |||
| '''Goth music''' is a relatively narrow selection of genres encompassing mainly ], ], ], ], ], and a ] genre known as ]. These genres are normally heavily linked with the modern day ]. | |||
| The widest genre of music that is not goth but could largely be considered gothic is ], especially the european subgenres such as ], ] and particularly ], ] and ]. It is also the genre in which the most confusion between the two terms arises, with ] and ] being particularly often confused. In its right sense '''Gothic Metal''' is a much wider term than '''Goth Metal''', which should properly only be used to describe bands heavily influenced by ] and its related genres such as ] and ], as opposed to gothic metal which can be extended to apply to considerable portions of Doom and Black metal, particularly ], which is indeed sometimes called 'Gothic Black Metal'. | |||
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| Bands under this term are often across genres, and hold little to any connection to each other musically. Commonly, bands are linked by their association with ], many of the bands integral fan base being ] and often marketing products associated with goths. | |||
| == Gothic Music == | |||
| It should be noted that, whilst Gothic music is not necessarily Goth, Goth music is almost always Gothic. More over, gothic metal is usually not considered gothic by members of the gothic music scene. | |||
| '''Gothic Music''' however is a distinct term referring to music that fits within the classic meaning of the word gothic, rather than holding any connection to the modern day ]. | |||
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| This term refers to far fewer genres than its sister term, '''goth music'''. Bands in this genre usually have one or more traits that is inclusive wholey or partially of the meaning of the word gothic. This includes several forms of heavy metal music, rock music, and electronic music. This term however, is mostly used for specific forms of music that centralise on having these traits, and as such consists soley of ], ] and ]. | |||
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| == Common Confusions == | |||
| The widest genre of music that is considered a part of gothic music is the genre ]. This genre is considered gothic by its usage of themes akin to the traditional meaning of gothic, and as such gets its name from that. The genre also suffers confusion with the term '''goth metal'''. This term implys that gothic metal is associated with ], when the genre has little to no connection to them at all. Some argue however, that hybrid genres ] and ] are forms of gothic metal, and that due to bands in either form taking influence from gothic rock bands, that inheritantly such bands as these are gothic metal, while bands of the gothic metal genre are therefore not. This again, is fueled mostly by the usage of the term '''goth metal'''. | |||
| Some people, most commonly ], attest that, though not all music that meets the traditional meaning of the word gothic is considered to be ''goth music'', all bands that form under the reference of '''goth music''' are gothic. This is a oxymoron in itself, as bands and artists under the label of '''goth music''' normally have little to nothing to do with the meaning of the word gothic. This oxymoron often causes great debate and confusion amongst most people, and often leads to the smudging of the terms together. | |||
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Gothic Music is a relatively invovled term, in that it is necessary to distinguish it as used to mean goth music, whilst also being used to completely expell this meaning.
Goth Music
Goth music is a relatively narrow selection of genres encompassing mainly gothic rock, coldwave, darkwave, Industrial, EBM, and a post-punk genre known as death rock. These genres are normally heavily linked with the modern day goth subculture.
Bands under this term are often across genres, and hold little to any connection to each other musically. Commonly, bands are linked by their association with goth subculture, many of the bands integral fan base being goths and often marketing products associated with goths.
Gothic Music
Gothic Music however is a distinct term referring to music that fits within the classic meaning of the word gothic, rather than holding any connection to the modern day goth subculture.
This term refers to far fewer genres than its sister term, goth music. Bands in this genre usually have one or more traits that is inclusive wholey or partially of the meaning of the word gothic. This includes several forms of heavy metal music, rock music, and electronic music. This term however, is mostly used for specific forms of music that centralise on having these traits, and as such consists soley of gothic rock, darkwave and gothic metal.
Common Confusions
The widest genre of music that is considered a part of gothic music is the genre gothic metal. This genre is considered gothic by its usage of themes akin to the traditional meaning of gothic, and as such gets its name from that. The genre also suffers confusion with the term goth metal. This term implys that gothic metal is associated with goths, when the genre has little to no connection to them at all. Some argue however, that hybrid genres gothic-doom and doom-death are forms of gothic metal, and that due to bands in either form taking influence from gothic rock bands, that inheritantly such bands as these are gothic metal, while bands of the gothic metal genre are therefore not. This again, is fueled mostly by the usage of the term goth metal.
Some people, most commonly goths, attest that, though not all music that meets the traditional meaning of the word gothic is considered to be goth music, all bands that form under the reference of goth music are gothic. This is a oxymoron in itself, as bands and artists under the label of goth music normally have little to nothing to do with the meaning of the word gothic. This oxymoron often causes great debate and confusion amongst most people, and often leads to the smudging of the terms together.
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