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Hello

Just sent you an email. --Gene_poole (talk) 01:32, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Update: check out this. --Gene_poole (talk) 02:51, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that, but was less concerned about FL status as I was deletion... - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:56, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused by your comments re the ]. Unless that cat is added to all micronation articles, how is it possible to see a 1-page list of all the micronation articles in WP?

The sub cats by country are fine as far as they go (which is not very far, given that a number of them only include 1 entry), but they don't permit a 1-page article list of all articles - unless I'm mistunderstanding something fundamental. Unless I'm missing some major policy directive, I propose to restore ] to all micronation articles.

Also, restoring ] does not apply to micronations, as they are definitely not nations or states. The correct category should therefore be ] etc.--Gene_poole (talk) 03:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I've been bold, and recategorised all WP articles about micronations that I'm aware of.

In the process I found 2 articles about non-micronations, which I've decategorised.

All articles are now tagged with Category:Micronations, so a 1-page snapshot of WP micronation content is now achievable.

People interested in the subject then have the option of drilling down on a country-by-country basis via the "Micronation by country" categories that I've also included, wherever relevant.

I think this provides a good basis for moving forward with improvements to content, addition of citations etc to these articles.

Let me know what you think. --Gene_poole (talk) 08:58, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Normally, if it's in a subcat, it should not be in the main category either, but I understand what you are thinking... I will not change it myself, but someone else may come along in the future and do so... RE: your email, I agree, and had already stated pretty much the same thing in the deletion discussion... we'll have to see what comes of the AfD first, and take action afterwards... - Adolphus79 (talk) 13:03, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Is there a specific policy that relates to how categories should be structured? Surely the purpose of any category is to make it easier to find articles of like type - and not obscure them? If we/someone removes the "micronation" cat, we will be left with a whole pile of "micronation by country" cats - most of which have only 1 or 2 articles in them. Particularly ludicrous examples include "micronations in finland" and "micronations in bosnia and herzegovina" (1 article each). If this is so, would it not make more sense to delete the "by country" cats, and go back to just the main "micronation" cat? After all, there are only 76 articles about micronations in WP,and that's hardly likely to change very much from this point, as all the major ones are covered.

Re the AFD, it seems that common sense will probably prevail; in any case I've just posted a detailed rebuttal of the nominator's latest screed. --Gene_poole (talk) 07:45, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

WP:DUPCAT covers this rule... but you're also correct that the the content is small enough we could probably remove the by country subcats, and leave everything in the parent category... give me a couple days to get this AfD (and pending AfD drama) over with, and I'll take a look at the cats to figure something out... - Adolphus79 (talk) 12:46, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm going to be travelling intrastate for the next week; hopefully things will have gotten back on an even keel by the time I return. --Gene_poole (talk) 03:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Olive branch

One man's screed, is another man's logical argument George. In any event, Adolphus, I'm not arguing for the deletion of Micronation. Nor will I do so in the future, although I am fairly certain I have made such an argument in the past. I'm also not out to delete every micronation article, though I can understand how it may appear that way to you based on my continued involvement with the various micronation lists. Such is not the case, and I think I have a very demonstrated history of working collaboratively throughout the encyclopedia. Even in situations where I am engaged in heated rhetoric I have a proven history of listening to reason, and I think my involvement in the micronations related articles over the years is an excellent example of this. I bring this up, because I find your comment above ("RE: your email, I agree, and had already stated pretty much the same thing in the deletion discussion... we'll have to see what comes of the AfD first, and take action afterwards") to be particularly disturbing. Are you suggesting that you take action against me for not agreeing with your view of micronations, or for nominating anything in the micronations family for deletion, or for having a long standing history of reducing the cruftier parts of the micronation family of articles? To my knowledge, none of these is even remotely a violation of Misplaced Pages policy. I bring this up because I think you are a reasonable and valuable editor here with whom I have no grievance. In other words, just feel free to have a discussion with me about your concerns, and I would be happy to address them in a civil manner. That we might disagree on the subject of micronations is not a cause for acrimony, and I think my own editing history has shown that I have evolved over the years from someone who advocated the removal of all micronation content from Misplaced Pages, to someone who fully supports the inclusion and value of micronations on Misplaced Pages. I still think they are bizzare, but bizzare is not a reason for deleting them. Rather, those things that I do attempt to clean up or delete are peripheral components of the micronation topic which undermine the credibility of micronation notability in general. This should not be misconstrued as an subtle, long term intention to give micronations a death by a thousand cuts. I give you my word that I am acting in good faith, and am completely open to hearing your thoughts on this, or any other topic. Hiberniantears (talk) 12:56, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Then why is it you are still making comments like "I think the concept of Micronations is not worthy of inclusion on Misplaced Pages.", even in the middle of the AfD discussion? You can't repeatedly say you don't think Micronations belong on Misplaced Pages, then come here and tell me differently. Also, I was strictly using your past actions and comments to draw my conclusions, not assuming anything, when I made my comments. If your intention was to better the micronation coverage on Misplaced Pages, why have you not made a single post at the WikiProject? Why have you consistantly claimed to dislike micronation articles? Why have you deleted (or caused to be deleted) several of the articles under the project's scope?

Furthermore, why do you assume the email had anything to do with you? Guilty conscience, maybe? Although, now that you mention it, I am starting to have a problem with the way you are editing micronation articles (and your history of editing them), especially considering your very obvious dislike for the subject... I would love for you to explain the reasoning behind your edits... - Adolphus79 (talk) 13:29, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

I thought I just explained that... My honest opinion is that micronations, as presented on Misplaced Pages, are an embrassment to this project. I have always felt that way. I have constantly maintained this position, because this is what I think. At no point have I told you differently. In the past, I coupled that opinion with action towards deleting all micronation content. In doing that, I encountered numerous reasonable editors, yourself amongst them, who convinced me that I was wrong for pursuing that action. It doesn't change my opinion, but it does make me respect the differing opinion and reasoning of those who pursuaded me that I was, in fact, wrong. Since Micronation isn't going anywhere, and because I care a great deal about the integrity and viability of Misplaced Pages, my intention is to actively participate in content revisions that make the micronation topic as strong, focused, and informative as possible. If this action involves merging or deleting some articles in the micronation family, I don't see what the problem is. I think it is fair to say that if List of micronations is deleted, that if I were to also nominate Micronation or Sealand for deletion that other editors would rightly call me out for acting in bad faith. My taking action such as that would, in fact, be bad faith. However, I feel that deleting or combining a number of articles in the micronation family will make Misplaced Pages's presentation of the project more credible, since it will remove the types of long term abuse that has plagued this category.

As for the email, why shouldn't I assume it has anything to do with me? The other participant in your thread returned as soon as I nominated the article for AfD. Said editor has a long track record of sneaky, duplicitous behavior. That isn't exactly Sherlock Holmes calibre detective work.

In regards to the Wikiproject, I addressed this in the AfD. Personally, I think Wikiproject's are a relative waste of time. I've joined a few over the years and found them to be either non-responsive, or filled with editors who are only like minded, thus the Wikiproject acts only as an echo chamber. I'm not required to join the Wikiproject of every topic I chose to focus on. In fact, I couldn't even tell you which Wikiprojects I've joined, because I don't have an inkling of an idea as to which ones I have signed on to.

Lastly, if you want to have a problem with my editing of micronation articles because I do not share your viewpoint, doesn't that seem like a poor sale for joining the Wikiproject? If something was deleted, and remained deleted, that demonstrates that their was a lack of support for the existence of that article. Rather than address generalities, I will address specific instances of micronation articles being deleted by me if that would help you understand my reasoning. I think it is important for you to recognize the difference between someone acting in bad faith versus someone acting differently from you simply because they don't share your point of view. Hiberniantears (talk) 14:02, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Heads-up

Hi there. I'm shortly going to propose that this site be added as an WP:EL to both List of micronations and Micronations.

As the site includes the most extensive, up-to-date listing of micronations currently available from any source, I believe that it is directly relevant to the subject of those articles, and that its inclusion within them would significantly complement the existing content, and enhance their usefulness and the level of informativeness they communicate to the general reader.

However, before I iniate that discussion I firstly wanted to disclose that I'm the owner and primary author of www.listofmicronations.com. Secondly, in order to avoid any suggestion of WP:COI I intend to refrain from adding the link myself, should the eventual consensus support my proposal. --Gene_poole (talk) 02:32, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Engvar

Saw your comments ... think of the sentence like this: "(the guys from) England defeat (the guys from) "Germany". England and Germany are plural "they". I think it's actually correct in US English too. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:40, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

That's understandable... but I was not thinking about the plurality of it... I was looking at it like "In sports news, Bill defeats Joe 10-1", or even defeat-ed... After explaination, I was more than willing to accept that it only looks funny to me, and everyone else thought it was O.K... - Adolphus79 (talk) 17:48, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Peadar Ó Guilín

Hello Adolphus79, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Peadar Ó Guilín - a page you tagged - because: Article claims importance/significance of the subject. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. SoWhy 10:07, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I know the criteria, and I thought an author who has only just published his first book, and has no other history, did not pass... he obvioulsy does not pass WP:AUTHOR, so I guess I will prod it or take it to AfD... - Adolphus79 (talk) 14:42, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Online

Well mes things that you are finally back properly after about nine onths of semi-activeness, so HI. (Well thats my welcome back message complete) =P 'The Ninjalemming'' 18:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how "back" I am... I've had a lull in my busy schedule recently that has allowed me to get some editing done... not sure how long it will last, but thanks all the same! - Adolphus79 (talk) 18:30, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

What line of buisness do you work in to only jst have five minutes free? 'The Ninjalemming'' 18:45, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

It's not just work, my home-life has been very busy as well... and it's not a matter of only having 5 minutes free, it's a matter of have a day that isn't packed full of work, chores, errands, etc... - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Yo-ho-ho

Hail, Adolphus79. I'm posting to let you know that I have listed you as an editor who had an unsuccessful RfA in the not-too-recent, not-too-distant past on the talk page for RfA's here. If you are interested in running for administratorship (or not), or if you would like to make any comments, feel free to join the discussion. If you might be interested, but would like some private confidential feedback from experienced observers, I would be happy to propose this via the new vetting service. Regards,  Skomorokh  18:21, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Arrr... that be a good deal... I will be checking out yer offer, matey... - Adolphus79 (talk) 18:34, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the above, I'm a true observer of today's holiday... I have been keeping up on the assorted "we need more admins" discussions on RfA's talk page, and I read your proposal, and it seems like a good idea... I would not mind if the community wanted to nominate me again, but I am a little worried that I have not changed my editing style enough for them. While the first complaint was article writing experince (and I think that's been taken care of), a number of the opposes were also because I do not argue talk enough in the Misplaced Pages talk namespace, and my original statement was that these discussions are in regards to assorted policies that have nothing to do with my areas of interest. To be completely honest, I would prefer that you and DGG discuss my nomination first, both of you review my previous RfA (and your comments therein), and see if your concerns have been met. After my last RfA, I would be much more comfortable accepting a nomination if I had the knowledge that the primary opposer's concerns had been met (or at least his/your standards had lowered a little)... - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

That's very understandable. Shall I add an entry for you at WP:VETTING and ask DGG to whip me an email?  Skomorokh  19:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Sure... - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:04, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

How would you do with my favorite optional RFA question? "Point us to a conversation where you did a good job of explaining or supporting a policy or guideline; or if you prefer, point us to a conversation where you made a good argument against a policy or guideline." (Watching) - Dank (push to talk) 21:25, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

P.S. FWIW, I think the "not enough article experience" argument last time around would not sink you now; you have a GA and a lot of shorter articles under your belt. (There was also another article related to Blizzard Games that apparently was a GA, but since it's just a redirect now, it would be better not to claim that one at RFA.) You may get a few opposes for only the one GA, but I very much doubt it would affect the outcome. - Dank (push to talk) 21:28, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Have you seen my talk page archive? I have helped (or tried to help) many users understand assorted policies and guidelines... Also, the assorted answers on my coaching page... Out of my thousands of edits, it would take me forever to go back and find one or two specific edits... - Adolphus79 (talk) 21:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

And the list on my article gallery that you are discussing didn't have a GA symbol, it has a redirect symbol... not sure if the same logic applies or not, but I will leave your change there... - Adolphus79 (talk) 22:14, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I just thought of one particular conversation that (I thought) showed my understanding of policy pretty well, Talk:List of micronations/Archive3#Add Awocka.21... - Adolphus79 (talk) 22:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay, that's good enough for me. Your next stop should probably be Biblio, since he was your coach ... see if he has any follow-up questions. - Dank (push to talk) 23:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't see a problem in renominating you. I see good work from you since your last, and I'll be happy to renom you. A quick question though: Do you think Misplaced Pages still has potential to grow, or has it reached its peak? bibliomaniac15 00:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

As I sit and patrol the new pages, I know that it is still growing... hell, I've even created a few articles this year myself... I think we've reached a peak as far as growth rate goes, but tomorrow will always have another notable person, and if not, next month will... I believe (and hope) that Misplaced Pages will always continue to grow... - Adolphus79 (talk) 01:01, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

More feedback

I looked at your contributions, your deleted contributions, and the oppose votes in your last RfA, and I would vote support. In your last RfA, several voters expected more experience with policies, so I would recommend having something to prove that you have done that since. But I don't think it's worth much of your time, since it is not that common for voters to expect that in an RfA. Moreover, I feel you have a better understanding than even many admins, as apparent from your correct prodding of Regional Information Center for Science and Technology, which had been incorrectly speedily deleted three times by administrators. (That happens a lot, I just talked about similar cases here and here.) — Sebastian 21:49, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

P.S.: Bonus points for your handling of the troll who recently insulted you repeatedly on your user page. One of the prospects whom I had to tell that I couldn't support them failed precisely because they had handled a similar case by going ballistic; even to the point of insulting others who tried to intervene in good faith. — Sebastian 22:04, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, that is all good to hear... - Adolphus79 (talk) 23:09, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Very impressive handling on that. Good luck, and let me know if you go up for RfA. Sephiroth storm (talk) 05:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Update...

If anyone is still watching... Due to the above positive feedback, I have been thinking about this whole running again thing... I realize that trends and patterns change at RfA, and I also think that I have done a good bit of work on the areas that my opposers had pointed out as my shortcomings... pending input from DGG, and/or feedback from WP:VETTING (which seems to have completely stalled), I do intend to run again in the near future... - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:34, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

there is more article writing than there was last time, but I still do not see anything much in the way of policy discussion: almost nothing in WP Talk space. As for WP space, at AfD, I see at least one recent major error . And another error at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Shield mate, while it may or may not have been worth an article--I did not comment there-- a hoax it certainly was not. I'm also concerned by the absence of anything in WP space from April 09 to Sept 09--accompanied by little work generally in that period. . You are trying to become an admin, with short bursts of work instead of regular work. I am quite unhappy i have to say this, because I think you're a good & sensible WPedian generally. If adminship were a trophy, I'd vote you a trophy, but it's for doing admin work. DGG ( talk ) 03:46, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

April thru August was due to priorities IRL... a work schedule that did not allow for much time at the puter at all... As far as the two AfDs you linked, I fully admit that the book was an error on my part, and was about to withdraw it when it was closed... And the "shield mate" article was very hoaxy... the term is found nowhere in history, although the concept is plausible, and there were absolutely zero sources (reliable or not) that used that term specifically... either way, those are what they are, and are water under the bridge at this point... as far as policy discussion goes, no I do not fight with other editors in WP:T space about changing policies or making new ones... But, I do know them, have them on my watchlist, and double check/re-read them from time to time... and always try to teach them to new editors or those that do not know them (per my answer to Dank's question above)... I think that a look back through my talk page archives will show that I know the assorted policies that I deal with on a regular basis very well, and if I don't know it, I look it up before I even bother to open my mouth... I am more than willing to admit that I do not know every policy and guideline on Misplaced Pages (does anyone, really?), but the ones that I deal with on a daily basis (WP:N, WP:V, WP:RS, WP:CITE, WP:CSD, etc.) I know very well... I am also not planning on wandering around showing off my new shiny tools, but to continue editing as I do, and only use them when I see a need for an extra hand (e.g. CSD tagging and finding a backlog there, or making a report at AIV, and finding a backlog there), and I can assure you that I will never delete an article I have tagged for speedy, close an AfD that I started, or block a vandal that I reported to AIV/UAA... Hell, I don't think I'll even close many AfDs at all, unless they're snowy... There may be some occasion that I get to feeling a little slothful, and wander over into some other admin backlog, but not until I fully understand the policies and guidelines involved in that area... - Adolphus79 (talk) 04:24, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

P.S. Thank you for your comment... As I originally stated, it was very important for me to hear you input before moving forward... - Adolphus79 (talk) 04:24, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

This guys full of it

Unreliable sources my ass. What more do you want? Thats where they came from, and thats the ONLY place.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Chao19 (talk • contribs)

Please read WP:RS, sources need to be reliable, third party, publications... myspace, youtube, and twitter are all unreliable first-person sources... please find this information in a book, newspaper article, or the like... - Adolphus79 (talk) 18:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey asshole

Whats your problem? THOSE ARE SOURCES! I dont care if theyre not third party, quit being a dick because they LINK TO WHERE CREED SAID THAT STUFF! ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS?! TELL ME, WHERE AM I SUPPOSE TO FIND THE SAME THING SOMEWHERE ELSE? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chao19 (talk • contribs)

please see my reply above... - Adolphus79 (talk) 18:26, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

bullshit! if anyones doing vandalism its YOU — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chao19 (talk • contribs)

If you believe that is the truth, please feel free to show me a diff in which I vandalized in any way... - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Several things one being I changed the language just incase three year olds read it, two fixed the grammer, three Adolphus has never vandalised before and four sign your edits, just incase your some strange monkey from Venus whos writing it (maybe not quite so drastic) 'The Ninjalemming'' 16:23, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Whoops missed a bit. 'The Ninjalemming'' 16:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks all the same Ninjalemming, but Misplaced Pages is not censored for children... Plus, I'd rather leave the statements as they were originally posted, for possible future reference... - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, like reports for..erm, AFD? I can't remember 'The Ninjalemming'' 16:31, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I think you meant the assorted AN boards... kinda... but just in general, I try keep all conversations on my talk page original... - Adolphus79 (talk) 17:03, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Right, gotcha ;D 'The Ninjalemming'' 17:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Kynaston

Hi, I'm sorry for the cut-short comment, I didn't mean to sound harsh. Regards Hekerui (talk) 22:53, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

No worries, I know better than that from you... I was kind of glad that it was you that left the comment... With our working before, I know that you know what you're talking about... - Adolphus79 (talk) 23:01, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

P.S. Do you think this artcle has any chance at all of maybe one day being GA? - Adolphus79 (talk) 00:48, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Let me check my crystal ball for that ... The article is interesting, perhaps a legacy section (if he has some cultural references) could be added. I don't know if there's more info about him, but if there is it should be added to make the article a little longer. And perhaps you can find a free picture of the cave on the internet or ask someone for permission to use one. And what about "the cave is real"? Is that a quiz? :) The ultimate judgement of GA potential is with a reviewer but I think, why not? Hekerui (talk) 07:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Bah... you & yer darn WP:CRYSTAL... fine, we'll discuss GA later... do you think it's a B right now? - Adolphus79 (talk) 23:34, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Al Parish

I've bashed this article into shape and added references, and I've removed the prod tag. I think he is notable, but whether he passes WP:BLP1E or Misplaced Pages:Notability (criminal acts)#Perpetrators is open to debate. Fences&Windows 22:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

It's a very good article now, but I agree with you that he still probably fails WP:BLP1E... I'll look into in the next couple days, and get back to you... - Adolphus79 (talk) 23:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Jimmy Breslin

Just wanted to let you know I found a conflict of info on the Jimmy Breslin page. The beginning paragraph says he was born in 1929 and the photo on the side says he was born in 1930. I don't know which one is correct - just wanted to point it out to you. --12.108.255.76 (talk) 17:30, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Cool... a quick check of IMDB (while it is not completely reliable), shows 1930 as correct, so I have changed it... I'm not sure why you brought this to my attention, as I've never touched that page before, but thanks... Let me know any time you need more help... - Adolphus79 (talk) 17:34, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Brought to your attention so it would get fixed right the first time - didn't feel like going through the process all over again :) --12.108.255.76 (talk) 17:39, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Aha... after checking your contributions page, I now know who you are... I am glad to see you back editing again, but that was an easy fix that you could have done yourself... - Adolphus79 (talk) 17:46, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Small communities

No, they're worth much more than the bandwidth they're printed on (I love that wording :-). In case you're confused — while we disambiguate communities by COMMUNITYNAME, COUNTYNAME, STATENAME, it's different if one community is a municipality and the other isn't; you can see another example of this at Northwood, Ohio and Northwood, Logan County, Ohio. Do you have access to a camera and a chance to visit these communities? If so, photos would be quite helpful. I'm within bicycling distance of northwestern Union County, but not close enough to get many actual communities. You could also consider trying to get and use some county histories, as bits of history would help to improve these. Nyttend (talk) 03:17, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I do, and I am... I've taken many photos so far, but always seem to forget to take my camera whenever I see something cool (like the new Historical Marker for V.P. Fairbanks in Unionville Center, been meaning to take a pic of that since they put it up)... I have several things in the Union County/Madison County area that I want to photograph, just need to find some time in my busy schedule to take a day to go around the area and shoot it all... If there's anything in Southern Union (or Northern Madison) that you can think of that we need a pic of, let me know and I'll add it to my list... - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Really, yes, I believe that we do need such a source. Do you have a detailed atlas, something like DeLorme's Ohio Atlas and Gazetteer? This is a highly detailed Logan County map produced by the county engineer's office; do Union or Madison counties have anything like it? Nyttend (talk) 23:49, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Also — could you try to fill out the picture column of the National Register of Historic Places listings in Madison County, Ohio? Unless you have a high-quality camera, you'll not be able to get a better picture than is already present for the courthouse or for the downtown historic district (I wish I had as good a camera as the guy who took these pictures has!), but one building has just a black-and-white photo, and the other eight sites are missing photos altogether. Nyttend (talk) 23:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Looking for one now... does Google not work? - Adolphus79 (talk) 23:55, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I have a great map here, but that does us no good online... would any of these do the trick for you? - Adolphus79 (talk) 00:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Not at all, but that's because I get an error message. What is it? Moreover, I'm curious — what do you mean about "that does us no good online"? The "Atlas and Gazetteer" series is printed, not digital. Nyttend (talk) 00:57, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

OK... so you're saying that I could use the Rand McNally Road Atlas as a source... so long as the statement is cited somehow? If so, how would you recommend I cite it, just "Rand McNally, The Road Atlas 2006, Pg. 80"? - Adolphus79 (talk) 01:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Most certainly. Do you have the 2009 edition of the atlas that you buy at Wal-Mart? If so, this is your citation:

<ref>Rand McNally. ''The Road Atlas '09.'' ]: ], 2009, PAGE.</ref>

Replace "PAGE" with the page number; and if you have a different year's atlas, simply replace "'09" and "2009" with the correct year. If you have a different atlas, simply change the name within the italics. Nyttend (talk) 01:11, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your help... hopefully they are now a handful of decent articles... - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:15, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'm changing your citations somewhat; please don't take the edit summaries as criticism, but as a simple way of saying that the citations can be improved slightly. Nyttend (talk) 04:10, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

No problem... if you are are wanting to be completely thorough in your checks, the list is here... - Adolphus79 (talk) 04:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

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Why do you keep shoving citation needed shit all over the Creed - Rain and Creed - Overcome page? It doesn't need a ref now, it all happened already. Get your facts straight... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.33.47 (talk • contribs)

IM A PUSSY SO FUCK YOU - Adolphus79 (talk) 01:23, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I should make a Worst Admin Ever award and give it to you. Theres a shitload of other articles that need your shit more than Creed ones and your worrying about simple references? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.33.47 (talk • contribs)

Firstly, while I realize I suck enough cock for such an award, I am not actually an admin... Secondly, I realize that there are several articles on Misplaced Pages that need references, and I am slowly but surely working on finding them all... please point them out to me if you find one, thank you... - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Point out more great articles for you to fuck up like the Creed ones? No thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.33.47 (talk • contribs)

RIGHT ON! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chao19 (talk • contribs) 01:03, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

The way I see it, you've got two options here... read and learn the policies, or I can show you my pussy... I will continue to suck donkey dick, if you don't like that, please leave... - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I'd rather YOU stfu and quit fucking with everything. No wonder you're not an admin.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Chao19 (talk • contribs)

Wow, so much for you learning civility from your last block... - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:11, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Ouch, that hurt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chao19 (talk • contribs) 23:35, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

gotfrag

how come you keep undoing the gotfrag page? o_O

i don't use wikipedia much, and i just realized you've been leaving notes during the undo process lol, what's so bad about having that information there? if you search on gotfrag.com in the forum posts, all of those users are well known and actually have reputations on there, such as mods and such, and there were a few mods on the list as well, so i don't understand why this is a big deal, sorry for undoing it so much though lol, i thought adolphus79 was someone on gotfrag playing jokes on us, we take our site very seriously and many people supported the idea of having said users on the gotfrag wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielvutran (talk • contribs) 09:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

It is a list of non-notable people from a non-notable website... please read our original research and notability policies, and you will know why that list should not be there... none of these people are notable outside of your forums, and none of the information included in their entries is verifiable... any list on any page should only include notable entries that are easily verified by reliable sources... - Adolphus79 (talk) 14:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

oh okay so what time should i bring katie over? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielvutran (talk • contribs) 01:04, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Eh? Who's Katie? Where you bringin' her? Is there booze involved? - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:10, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert

Much appreciated. Too bad they didn't have the courage to log in. GlassCobra 03:26, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

No worries... maybe that will put off my EfD for another week... LOL - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:31, 9 October 2009 (UTC)