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I cleaned up the article's contents. He is indesputably Armenian. Girlindajo tries to include a fringe point that has been dismissed by the scholarly community. On top, he has added original research by adding words as "grain of salt." If he continues this, I will report him to ANI.] 04:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC) I cleaned up the article's contents. He is indesputably Armenian. Girlindajo tries to include a fringe point that has been dismissed by the scholarly community. On top, he has added original research by adding words as "grain of salt." If he continues this, I will report him to ANI.] 04:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
: Yes, we don't need edit wars and vandalism here. It's better to report NOW, because the part about Armenian origin of Basil I was reverted (reppaced with apparently incorrect info) more than once whithout providing sensible base for doing that. No offense to anyone, but we don't need pseudohistory here. ] 16:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC) : Yes, we don't need edit wars and vandalism here. It's better to report NOW, because the part about Armenian origin of Basil I was reverted (reppaced with apparently incorrect info) more than once whithout providing sensible base for doing that. No offense to anyone, but we don't need pseudohistory here. ] 16:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

To Hetoum I and Armatura. You say that the ethnic origin of Basil I the Macedon ( ὁ Μακεδών , the Macedonian!!) is indesputably Armenian!? There is NO evidence in the historical sources that he was of Armenian Origin. Look herefore Ostrogorsky, the most scientific authority on the subject of Byzantium. Please, if you have any primary historical sources than let us know! This what you are provding here is really pseudohistory or Googwik-science!] (]) 07:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


== Armenian Name == == Armenian Name ==

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Armenian Name

I added/fixed Basil I's name in Armenian writing. Just letting people know, since it seems relevant that we include his Armenian name, since he was in fact of Armenian descent.

Ostrogorsky (the highest scientific authoritiy on the subject) says the ethnic origin of Basil I the Macedonian is unclear and almost certainly not Armenian! Why was he called Macedonian? He was named the Macedonian because it is possible that he was in fact of Macedon origin. (Ostrogorski, G., History of Byzantine State, Rutgers University Press, revised edition, 1969).Maxkrueg 1 (talk) 07:03, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

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The following was just posted this to Slashdot:

So while, say, the Robert Novak page is going to see a lot of dispute between now and whenever someone finally drives a stake through his heart, the page on the Byzantine Emperor Basil I (811-886 AD) probably isn't going to see a great number of worthwhile changes anytime soon.

Someone will probably take this the wrong way. Something to look out for. Aaronrp 04:28, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Ethnic Origins of Basil The 1st

There is some controversy surroundung Basil the 1sts ethnic origins, some say he was ethnically Armenian others say Greek, Does anyone know or have any verifiable sources which can confirm what his ethnicity/s were? E-mail adress 13:59, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

There isn't any controversy. Who says they are Greek? Not Greek sources. A Greek source has been given already. Peter Charanis, born in Greece and called the "father Of Byzantine studies".--Eupator 16:11, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
And Russian sources say he was Slavic. Let's return to the neutral wording. --Ghirla | talk 14:33, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
So lets expand the section then. The current intro is using weasel words. There are no primary Russian or any other Slavic sources on his origin, Russian sources are based on primary Arab sources since they assumed that Macedonia was inhabited by Slavs. --Eupator 16:10, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I've added links to Armenian (ermeni.org) and English (E. Britannica) sources that prove the Armenian origin of Basil I (Template:Lang-hy)
--Armatura 16:39, 28 January 2007 (UTC))


Ostrogorsky (the highest scientific authoritiy on the subject) says the ethnic origin of Basil I the Macedonian is unclear and almost certainly not Armenian! Why was he called Macedonian? He was named the Macedonian because it is possible that he was in fact of Macedon origin. (Ostrogorski, G., History of Byzantine State, Rutgers University Press, revised edition, 1969).Maxkrueg 1 (talk) 07:05, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Age

I think the article shows Basil as being too old. He cannot have been more than a few years older than Michael III. I would assume that he was born in the 830's not 811.

Girlindajo Original Research/Vandalism

I cleaned up the article's contents. He is indesputably Armenian. Girlindajo tries to include a fringe point that has been dismissed by the scholarly community. On top, he has added original research by adding words as "grain of salt." If he continues this, I will report him to ANI.Hetoum I 04:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, we don't need edit wars and vandalism here. It's better to report NOW, because the part about Armenian origin of Basil I was reverted (reppaced with apparently incorrect info) more than once whithout providing sensible base for doing that. No offense to anyone, but we don't need pseudohistory here. Armatura 16:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

To Hetoum I and Armatura. You say that the ethnic origin of Basil I the Macedon ( ὁ Μακεδών , the Macedonian!!) is indesputably Armenian!? There is NO evidence in the historical sources that he was of Armenian Origin. Look herefore Ostrogorsky, the most scientific authority on the subject of Byzantium. Please, if you have any primary historical sources than let us know! This what you are provding here is really pseudohistory or Googwik-science!Maxkrueg 1 (talk) 07:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Armenian Name

I added/fixed Basil I's name in Armenian writing. Just letting people know, since it seems relevant that we include his Armenian name, since he was in fact of Armenian descent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.212.17 (talk) 02:29, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Well you see the royal family of England is also of German descent, but we do not write their German name... Kapnisma ? 18:06, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Ostrogorsky (the highest scientific authoritiy on the subject) says the ethnic origin of Basil I the Macedonian is unclear and almost certainly not Armenian! Why was he called Macedonian? He was named the Macedonian because it is possible that he was in fact of Macedon origin. (Ostrogorski, G., History of Byzantine State, Rutgers University Press, revised edition, 1969).Maxkrueg 1 (talk) 07:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

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