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Cirt is continuing his attempts at making Saxton a former big shot. The article now says:"''According to 3 News, while in the organization he was part of "Scientology's senior management".''" After som clicks, the refrence goes to . This text does not say that Saxton was in Scientology's senior management. Cirt's references do not check out. /] (]) 16:31, 26 March 2010 (UTC) Cirt is continuing his attempts at making Saxton a former big shot. The article now says:"''According to 3 News, while in the organization he was part of "Scientology's senior management".''" After som clicks, the refrence goes to . This text does not say that Saxton was in Scientology's senior management. Cirt's references do not check out. /] (]) 16:31, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
:No, the cite goes to the video version by '']'' - . Please, be more careful when throwing around accusations against other editors about sourcing. -- ''']''' (]) 18:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

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Inflated

This was just a kid. Not a "senior official". /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 23:26, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Quoting the Sydney Morning Herald -- "Aaron Saxton, who rose to a senior level in the Sea Org..." -- Cirt (talk) 23:28, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Still just a kid. The article avoids mentioning his age. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 23:32, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Please do not make up spurious claims if you are not going to back them up to independent reliable secondary sources. -- Cirt (talk) 23:34, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
The article avoids giving the kid's age. I do not need to give a source for that. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 23:42, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Please stop referring to this WP:BLP individual as "a kid". Your claims are unsourced. -- Cirt (talk) 23:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
A BLP would give a date of birth. Your quoting all this policies is an annoying way of avoiding the issue. You seem to have all the sources. Did you really read those Turkish newspapers? /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 23:48, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Can you please provide a source for date of birth, cited to independent reliable secondary sources? -- Cirt (talk) 23:50, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
If there are no sources for someone's age, probably that person is not sufficiently notable for an article. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 23:53, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Wholly incorrect. Misplaced Pages policy for notability is not "whether sources exist for someone's age", but rather WP:NOTE. -- Cirt (talk) 23:55, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Born 1975 or 1974?

Cirt says 1975, a date he just deduced via WP:SYNTH. But it is wrong, should be 1974. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 00:26, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Please do not make unsourced changes to articles on Misplaced Pages. Especially to WP:BLP pages, as you just did to this page. -- Cirt (talk) 00:27, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Please do not try to guess dates. Especially birthdates in fact boxes on WP:BLP pages, as you did with this subject. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 00:30, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Can you back up your change to this page to independent reliable secondary sources? -- Cirt (talk) 00:31, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Can you? You just calculated 1975. And put this spurious factoid in a factbox on a WP:BLP article. That is a serious mistake. It could have real life consequences. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 00:35, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
1991 - 16 = 1975. However, I have removed it, as not directly stated. Please do not make unsourced changes to WP:BLP articles on Misplaced Pages again. Thanks. -- Cirt (talk) 00:36, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 Done, . -- Cirt (talk) 00:53, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:NOR#Routine_calculations would be relevant. Durova 02:34, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

True, but now we have a definitive source for the birth year. :) -- Cirt (talk) 02:38, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Hyperinflation

Cirt is continuing his attempts at making Saxton a former big shot. The article now says:"According to 3 News, while in the organization he was part of "Scientology's senior management"." After som clicks, the refrence goes to this text. This text does not say that Saxton was in Scientology's senior management. Cirt's references do not check out. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:31, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

No, the cite goes to the video version by 3 News - video. Please, be more careful when throwing around accusations against other editors about sourcing. -- Cirt (talk) 18:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
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