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| The introduction states that "until 1922, Turkey was known as the Ottoman Empire." I don't think that this is accurate. I would say that "Turkey was the center of the Ottoman empire", but I'll leave the actual editing to someone who knows more than me. | The introduction states that "until 1922, Turkey was known as the Ottoman Empire." I don't think that this is accurate. I would say that "Turkey was the center of the Ottoman empire", but I'll leave the actual editing to someone who knows more than me. | ||
| :This matter can be disputed. It is a fact that the Ottoman state evolved into the Republic of Turkey, however the republic was as a state so different from the Ottoman that it can be said to be as much known as the Ottoman Empire as for example Bulgaria. From another point of view, the name Turkey is still referring to the same country after undergoing some serious change. | |||
| :However, many still use the term Turkey when they are referring to the Ottoman Empire. The use of Turkey for the Ottoman state was very common before the fall of the Empire, both by foreigners and the Turks themselves. After the declaration of the republic, the official status of name Turkey was changed so that it would refer to the republic, and only the republic. In the west, however, the name Turkey can still mean both the Republic and the Ottoman Empire. The line at the start of the page is simply stating that if you have followed a link from an article about a subject dating before 1922, you should probably see the Ottoman Empire article instead. —] 16:41, 12 May 2004 (UTC) | |||
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I think we should spin off Turkey (country) from the other meanings, at least once it becomes time to update this information in accord with the WikiProject Countries. -- April 14:14 Sep 3, 2002 (PDT)
- Given the fact that most of the inbound links are meant from the country (judging by the titles of the articles), I'd say there should be a block-format disambiguation at the top, with a link to Turkey (disambiguation) which lists the other meanings (actually only the bird, the others are merely dictionary entries which do not make an article). Jeronimo
- That would also work. I just based int on the Georgia (country) link. -- April
I'm not entirely sure that Atatürk's slogan of "Peace at Home, Peace in the World" can really be considered the Turkish motto. It most likely isn't the official national motto as one would normally understand it, but it does seem quite prevalent. Indeed, the Foreign Affairs site opens with it. I'll leave it in until hopefully someone more knowledgeable can clarify. -Scipius 20:57 29 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- As long as I know, that is the Turkish motto.--Alessandro Riolo 14:07, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
For the message of the EU countries and candidates please read the Talk:Romania page.--Alessandro Riolo 12:00, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The introduction states that "until 1922, Turkey was known as the Ottoman Empire." I don't think that this is accurate. I would say that "Turkey was the center of the Ottoman empire", but I'll leave the actual editing to someone who knows more than me.
- This matter can be disputed. It is a fact that the Ottoman state evolved into the Republic of Turkey, however the republic was as a state so different from the Ottoman that it can be said to be as much known as the Ottoman Empire as for example Bulgaria. From another point of view, the name Turkey is still referring to the same country after undergoing some serious change.
- However, many still use the term Turkey when they are referring to the Ottoman Empire. The use of Turkey for the Ottoman state was very common before the fall of the Empire, both by foreigners and the Turks themselves. After the declaration of the republic, the official status of name Turkey was changed so that it would refer to the republic, and only the republic. In the west, however, the name Turkey can still mean both the Republic and the Ottoman Empire. The line at the start of the page is simply stating that if you have followed a link from an article about a subject dating before 1922, you should probably see the Ottoman Empire article instead. —The Phoenix 16:41, 12 May 2004 (UTC)