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*] (1865-1913) of Tennessee of the Republican National Committee *] (1865-1913) of Tennessee of the Republican National Committee
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==Edith M. Kingdon ''Gould''==
Hello Richard, in something that doesn't concern Misplaced Pages but is about Edith Kingdon(1864-1921), I wanted to tell you that on Kingdon's '''Findagrave.com''' article you posted a picture in 2003 that's supposed to be Edith Kingdon(the first picture on the article). This is incorrect as it is of ] and not Edith Kingdon. The photo below it is correct. At some point maybe it can be corrected. thanks.] (]) 08:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

:::: I will fix it now. --] (]) 15:25, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

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== Spring ephemerals ==

I'm not sure why you '']'' as a ]; Flora of North America (cited there) says "Flowering spring-summer (Apr-Jul)". As for the broader question of whether we should have a category for spring ephemerals, I'd discuss it at ] but it may be kind of hard to draw the line between spring ephemerals (which in a deciduous forest lose their foliage around the time the trees leaf out) and plants which come up in the spring but persist into the summer. ] (]) 13:40, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Sorry, the list I was using had an error on it. --] (]) 19:08, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

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I have raised some concerns about the particular paragraph you inserted at ]. Your input is welcome - there are some sourcing questions. Best, <strong>]</strong>] 01:38, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

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I noticed the work you've done on this article and thought you might wish to know a deletion discussion was occurring at ] - ] (]) 05:36, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

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Hi, I see you redirected this title to the son rather than the father. My guess is that the father is more notable, however I'm not on top of the DAB policies. Is there a good reason to redirect to the son? <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 23:38, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

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'''Please note:''' This is an automatic notification by a ]. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. --] (]) 01:14, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

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: Thanks for your great improvements to this article. Some of the BR articles are now at GA status. I sometimes like to imagine editor Groubani smiling down like a proud parent as the seeds he planted develop into useful articles that will help the different nations collaborate and understand each other better. ] ] (]) 10:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

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Could you clarify footnote 1 ''Ruvigny's right to the title he claimed is very doubtful. His grandfather Captain Lloyd Henry de Ruvynes, an Irishman of French origin, changed his name to "de Massue de Ruvignés", apparently on the strength of his descent from a daughter of Henry de Massue, 1st Marquis de Ruvigny et de Raineval, but it seems likely that the title expired with the death of the first marquis' son in 1720, cf. Ruvigny, The Nobilities of Europe (London, 1909), 116-120'' There's a query that this statement might be ] as the source doesn't directly say the same, see the ] page . Thanks ] (]) 13:55, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

::: I didn't add that. I may have demoted it to a footnote from the text. I will look and see what I can find, and if I can find a reference will promote the text back into the body of the article. That is also why I am a proponent of using the quote parameter in the reference citations. Anyone can point you to a book or even a page in a book, but unless you have the exact quote you can spend hours trying to figure out if the reference actually supports the text in the article, with an exact quote you can cut and paste it into Google and find the source. --] (]) 16:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

:::: Apologies, from my reading of the edit history I thought you'd introduced the text in the first place. Incidentally
I'm the one who raised the AfD for ] and then someone else nominated all the other articles 'developed' by Moutray2010. I still think John Moutray is non notable. His court martial is the only thing of note and IMO that doesn't make him meet the notability criteria, even after your your helpful edits. His court martial arose from the convoy incident and that is well documented in another article. Moutray's career seems uneventful otherwise and this one incident apart there doesn't seem to be anything else about him. All the other articles nominated I think should stay. I admit I think that Moutray2010 has acted like prat and we have disagreed but I wouldn't nominate articles out of spite for that. He's got some useful sources and if the information can be channelled correctly it should be used, but just at the moment he seems to insist on copy pasting entire documents into articles without any attempt at editing and he seems unwilling to listen to any guidance. ] (]) 21:29, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

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I've had a closer look and I've changed my mind and am going to withdraw my AfD. I still think the article is light but the bare minimum is now made out. Where I think it could be expanded greatly is in the reason for the court-martial. I see one of the sources refers to the CM being about making a scapegoat out of him to satisfy the insurance companies. Some more on this would add greatly to the article (and his notability). ] (]) 13:07, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

==Deletion review==
I have posted a question at ] which you may be able to answer. Can you please return to that discussion to answer it? ] (]) 09:16, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== inre and ... ==

Fast. Nice sensible followup. ''']''' '']'' 23:28, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Zip and zoom, I did it even before your request showed up in my watchlist, that's how fast it was. --] (]) 23:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

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::::::"Canvassing is sending messages to Wikipedians with the intent to inform them about a community discussion. '''Under certain conditions it is acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, but messages that are written to influence the outcome rather than to improve the quality of a discussion compromise the consensus building process and may be considered disruptive.'''" (my emphasis added) My message meets the guideline of informing without influencing, cheers. --] (]) 15:05, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::That's a pretty selective reading of the relavent guideline. Don't try to tell me you've been unaware this section of the page: ]. ] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-1.040ex;">]</sub> 15:38, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:When you say "Misplaced Pages's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large." Wouldn't that include not nominating the same damn article you previously nominated, once again, because you failed to get it deleted previously? Was consensus already established in the first AFD? You have done that before, and are doing that once again. And as long as everyone who participated in the AFD is contacted, its not canvassing. Also, his message seemed quite neutral to me. And if you are just going to redo the same AFD again, everyone who participated in the last one should be contacted to know you are dragging this up again. ]''' 09:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::DF, everything you're said would make perfect sense if the first AfD had been closed as "Keep." But it wasn't. The results was "no consensus." To come back a year later and try for a consensus decision is perfectly reasonable.] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-1.040ex;">]</sub> 15:38, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Please refrain from leaving threats on my user page. Cheers. --] (]) 17:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
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:::Please refrain from leaving threats on my user page. This in not the forum for threats. Cheers. --] (]) 17:37, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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Re: . Would you mind removing the box and icon and making it into a normal comment like:
:*'''Comment/Note to closing admin''': This article under discussion has had new information added that addresses concerns raised in this AFD. At this point in the discussion ten additional sources have been added to the article. Spanish language articles from Mexican newspapers and English language sources from Google News Archive. The closing administrator may want to compare the nominated version versus the current version. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>
As you are aware, a very similar template was deleted by consensus a year ago (]), so your use of this box would seem to contravene community norms. I'm not saying you shouldn't say what the box is saying, I'm just asking that you say it in the normal format. Thanks] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-1.040ex;">]</sub> 18:49, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
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