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:Since you have made good your to continue your editing against consensus, I have temporarily blocked you to prevent further disruption. You have been told that the use of non-English names is an accepted Misplaced Pages convention. I understand that you disagree with this convention. However, instead of approaching editors at the ] you choose to unilaterally edit against convention. This cannot continue. ]] 02:53, 6 August 2010 (UTC) :Since you have made good your to continue your editing against consensus, I have temporarily blocked you to prevent further disruption. You have been told that the use of non-English names is an accepted Misplaced Pages convention. I understand that you disagree with this convention. However, instead of approaching editors at the ] you choose to unilaterally edit against convention. This cannot continue. ]] 02:53, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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Line scoring in 1947 Rose Bowl article

The best place to start with an edict such as replacing Convert or PAT with kick is the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject College football/Style Guide. I see your point with the edits to the 1947 Rose Bowl article. However the original terminology was taken from the UCLA Football media guide. Thanks Much, Group29 (talk) 00:27, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Cyrillic rendering of Russian names

I have noticed that you have deleted Cyrillic names from a few Soviet politicians. Having the names of foreign people in the native scripts is standard in Wiki. It is quite useful as the transliteration rules are quite tricky (check WP:RUS as an example). I have reverted your change. Please do not delete the info again unless you get some consensus on talk pages Alex Bakharev (talk) 04:31, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I want to reiterate the above point of Alex Bakharev. Please stop removing cyrillic spellings of the names of Soviet politicians, like you did here. I have reverted your changes. There is a well established practice of including spellings of the names in their native alphabets in biographical Misplaced Pages articles. They are used by various scripts and also facilitate navigation and searching for sources. Nsk92 (talk) 03:26, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Don't do it in cases like this either Nil Einne (talk) 11:03, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

February 2010

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RE: I cannot believe...

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Names

Please do not remove original names from biographies (in their native languages). Maybe they don't show up in your browser, but this would be unusual and would be a local problem. Their English transliterations are often awkward, not widely accepted, or just plain wrong. Materialscientist (talk) 22:34, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Please stop removing Russian spelling of their names from biographies of Russian politicians, such as Gorbachev, Putin, Brezhnev etc. Including such spellings is a totally standard Misplaced Pages convention. Nsk92 (talk) 02:41, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Who are you, and no I will not, because it is substandard referencial and encyclopedic paractice. I own two Encyclopedia Brittanicas and I have read several other editions of both EB and other encyclodepias, and this useless convention appears nowhere.

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This is the final warning you will receive regarding your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Misplaced Pages again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Nsk92 (talk) 03:56, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Please stop

Several editors have explained that the removal cyrillic rendering of Russian names runs counter to Misplaced Pages convention. I do not want to block you as you have stopped doing this after a final warning. However, you have stated that you will not stop. If you resume this activity, I will block you. Please find something constructive to occupy your time here. Thanks Tiderolls 09:15, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

  • I absolutely agree with this. If you continue to remove names written in other alphabets from articles, you will get blocked. Your opinion on this does not agree with consensus on Misplaced Pages: see Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (use English), which notes that "The body of each article, preferably in its first paragraph, should list all common names by which its subject is widely known. When the native name is written in a non-Latin alphabet this representation should be included along with Latin alphabet transliteration." Fences&Windows 13:26, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
On a related point, I notice you removed the text "Автомат Калашникова Модернизированный " from AK-47. I doubt this is an improvement, as AKM is a Russian acronym - I think it would be a good idea to retain the original Russian text.
Misplaced Pages covers more than just the Anglosphere, and its readers are not just monoglot anglophones. If the subject of an article was named in a foreign language, it is often helpful and informative to show the original name as well as the English transliteration.
bobrayner (talk) 20:38, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Looking through your past contributions, it seems that you also removed معركة القصر الكبير from Battle of Ksar El Kebir (and 麻 from Hemp). Are you on a crusade to remove the original names from[REDACTED] articles?
However, you've toned your language down; whereas before you might call other wikipedians holocaust deniers, now you merely try to remove the "goddam shitass useless stupid Russian language" from articles about Russian people and things; I suppose that's an improvement.
bobrayner (talk)
Just for the benefit of other folk who have expressed concerns about ncdane's behaviour - ncdane posted a response on my talkpage:
There's no need to be so hostile. There really are many people reading[REDACTED] who can read other languages. If you're not one of them - if you are ignorant of a foreign language - then you are not harmed by the presence of a few letters which you cannot read but which other people might want to read; and you can hardly be surprised that when you choose to read an article about somebody or something foreign, a foreign version of the name is present.
Misplaced Pages is no place for language chauvinism. "I don't understand it, therefore it must go" is no way to build an encyclopaedia. Few people understand Telomerase reverse transcriptase or Semistable abelian variety, but we let that content stand, because it can benefit the people who do understand it.
It might be a good idea to read Misplaced Pages's policy on foreign names: "The native spelling of a name should generally be included in the first line of the article, with a transliteration if the Anglicization isn't identical". If this policy offends you, perhaps you should push for a policy change; but in the meantime articles about Russian people are better - and more accurate - with the original Russian name in them.
bobrayner (talk) 23:43, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for repeated abuse of editing privileges. You are welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|Your reason here}}, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Tiderolls 02:53, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Since you have made good your commitment to continue your editing against consensus, I have temporarily blocked you to prevent further disruption. You have been told that the use of non-English names is an accepted Misplaced Pages convention. I understand that you disagree with this convention. However, instead of approaching editors at the appropriate venue you choose to unilaterally edit against convention. This cannot continue. Tiderolls 02:53, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
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