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DYK & ITN

This user has written or expanded 188 articles featured in the Did You Know section on the Main Page.

My DYKs are on this sub-page and my ITNs are on this sub-page.

		The 25 DYK Medal
		For achieving your 25th Did You Know? I hereby award you this big fat medal. Well done. Hersfold 23:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

		The 50 DYK Medal
		Trams, mills, railways ... I think Isambard would have been proud of your approach particulary the French ideas, but he would have barred our veteran editor from further progression for supporting a railway that was merely a metre. But he's not here! So more seriously, thank you on behalf of the wiki. (Let me tell you though that the 100 one s a really cool yellowy gold colour). Good luck with the GA and cheers Victuallers (talk) 12:54, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

		The 100 DYK Medal
		As I told you at 50 ... the 100 DYK medal is a really cool shade of yellow. I hope you are not disappointed, as the wiki is not regretful at all of your efforts. Well done. The wiki gets better due to your contributions and its a pleasure to thank you again on behalf of the wiki. See you at 200? Victuallers (talk) 21:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Dyks

Your welcome ... ask the two people you nominated! They count too Victuallers (talk) 13:02, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

April Fools DYK?

Hey, MJ, would you be interested in collaborating with me on an April Fools double DYK nom? I'm looking to add two ship articles: one from the WWI era, and one from the WWII era. I thought if you were interested, you could write the WWII-era article. Let me know if you're interested, and I can fill in the details. Thanks. — Bellhalla (talk) 12:09, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

If you could write an article for the Ellerman Lines ship SS Lesbian (1923), I'll write about their former SS Lesbian (1915). I was thinking about a hook like this:

…that the Ellerman Lines employed two Lesbians in the early 20th century but both met with tragic fates in the Mediterranean, one in World War I, and the other in World War II?

Other than the usual sources available, like Plimsoll, Convoyweb, etc.; I've found a source for the second one that might be helpful: Here (I also thought of an alternative hook involving only the latter ship, but I'm pretty sure it would be too ribald for the Main Page.) — Bellhalla (talk) 13:46, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'd seen that there was an older one, but Miramar showed it as Leyland Line (I think). How about either:

…that the Ellerman Lines employed three Lesbians in the early 20th century but two met with tragic fates in the Mediterranean, one in World War I, and the other in World War II?

or:

…that John Ellerman employed not one, not two, but three lesbians in the early 20th century?

This will give a little context and helps avoid the rather suggestive had. If we want to get suggestive, we could always use only the third ship and say:

"…that you can pay to go down on a Lesbian in Beirut?

(no offense intended to anyone reading this.) — Bellhalla (talk) 00:39, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

number DYK

I've noticed over the past few weeks that you seem to be on fire for Mills and other articles including Camberwell. Congrats on the 90+. Btw, if you do Braughing, i have a small bit of info on trade (or copy if from Buntingford Branch Line). Simply south (talk) 21:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

British Engineerium

Thanks for spotting the omission; I have corrected. I seem to be leaving books out quite a lot at the moment: that's the third of my recent articles this week in which I forgot at least one in the Bibliography! Cheers, Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 07:42, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

How best to promote a DYK

Hi there - as the person with more DYKs than anyone else I know, your advice at WT:WikiProject UK Railways#DYK help required would be appreciated. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:40, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Admin

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Email

Check you inbox. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:11, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done. Mjroots (talk) 20:15, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

A Mail

Youz gotz it! But does you hav Cheezburger? (sorry the LOLcat in me got loose again) :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 06:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

By email, please. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 09:35, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

A new editor on the scene

Please note the angry and disruptive editing of the following record. It involves an opinionated but unverified set of changes. Can anything be done? FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC).

Aircraft & Airlines

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2009 Manaus Aerotáxi crash

Thanks for letting me know. I'll try to get on top of it. Crum375 (talk) 13:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: AIRES accident

Can you give me 20 mins or so to edit this in peace? I've got plenty of sources via Pprune with which to improve the article. Did you not see the {{inuse}} I placed at the top of the article. Mjroots (talk) 17:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

No, I did not. Look at the time stamps. --Mareklug 18:10, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

• I'm curious: Where did you get all these interwiki links? None of them points to an article. diff. --Mareklug 20:40, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

BTW non-BLP discussion about name of woman who died: Talk:AIRES_Flight_8250#Naming the sole dead person WhisperToMe (talk) 07:12, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

2010 Bandundu Filair Let L-410 crash

Sigh...apologies, and thanks for fixing it. C628 (talk) 23:24, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Alrosa Mirny Air Enterprise Flight 514

Wasn't much of an improvement, really. I just linked a few things. Sources look fine, although I did not make an effort to compare what the sources say with what the article says. If you have any particular pieces in mind that you think could benefit from an overview by a native speaker, feel free to let me know. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 8, 2010; 17:13 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Alrosa Mirny Air Enterprise Flight 514 - nothing personal just not notable. I must admit it is a good article. i wish i could post them like that every time, but i usually have to use single sources which have big limitations.Petebutt (talk) 10:11, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

IX 812

IX 812 was an Air India express flight and not an Air India flight. Air India Express is a subsidiary of Air India. So this accident should article shouls remain only in the AIX article. If you believe that IX 812 incident should be added to AI article, then you should go ahead and add all IC incidents and accidents into the same article as IC in now a subsidiary of AI. Abhishek191288 (talk) 16:41, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Editing problems on Ngurah Rai International Airport

Thank you for your earlier intervention. I appreciate you apparently impartial and sober approach. Sadly 124x247x221x146 (talk · contribs) is still at it. He has since deleted the Terminals column from the Selaparang Airport article and again deleted Wings Air. Maybe he flew with them once and had a bad experience, but his behaviour is odd to say the least. He is still at it and really I think he is just a trouble maker and a belligerent vandal. I have addressed my opinions on this and the nature of the editing on his talk page, my own talk page and both the discussion pages. He has now had his way with the Ngurah Rai International Airport article and the vandalised table remains with riddled with misleading and factually incorrect details that he is apparently determined to have there. This despite accurate, up to date and properly sourced information being provided to it on now several occasions and also now sitting on the discussion page. He has failed to pull back and indeed has just continued to behave in a belligerent and inappropriate manner. I believe his actions are so far from good faith that they have disappeared over the curvature of the earth. I request that the table provided on the Ngurah Rai International Airport discussion page is uploaded and page protection instituted. Indeed I think it would be a good idea if this individual was blocked from editing Indonesian pages for a while and any that I have edited elsewhere on WP as his activities seems to be verging on stalking. I think he knows well his behaviour is inappropriate but has let things get away from himself. I find his behaviour disappointing, destructive and childish and I hope he manages to stop himself soon. Perhaps he needs some assistance to do that. If you do not have an administrator overview of those articles perhaps you can pass the matter onto someone who does. Thank you and I hope you can assist with this. Felix505 (talk) 04:38, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed that you are among the many users that wrote on 124x247x221x146 (talk · contribs)'s talk page. I hope you will consider the possibility of having this user blocked. He is engaged in a number of edit wars with other users on airport-related pages. I have placed a 'final warning' template on his talk page and pending your action. Toyotaboy95 - Hong Kong ☺ 12:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

User:124x247x221x146 (talk) / blocked User:124.247.221.146 (talk) has expressed some opinions on the quality of my edits in various places including Talk:Selaparang Airport and Felix505 (talk). I have left a response on my talk) page. If you have a moment you might like to run your eye over it. I notice his edits have slowed down a bit, in volume per day at least. There is still the problem at Ngurah Rai International Airport article in that it has some really dreadfully inaccurate information in the destinations table due to the efforts of User:124x247x221x146 (talk). I would like to fix it but this now triumphant clown will no doubt return and delete it again. So this is how articles end up on WP, screw the facts and the integrity of content, the most belligerent wins the day and we end up with complete rubbish in an article. It is not a good outcome for either accuracy or article integrity. I have put the table deleted by User:124x247x221x146 on the discussion page and generated another table with links to most of the airlines concerned so that the sources could be checked as that user had deleted them earlier. The other source for the table information content was the airport operating authority. I have removed one of the previous external links for flight info from the article as it went to a 404 error page. The main airport page (still in external links) has arr/dep info on it.

• I disagree with the decision not to block this person, they are a menace. I am now unwilling to edit correct information into the pages concerned as this person will not doubt come and delete making it a pointless exercise. I have looked over his histories and it is clear he has a dubious past with what appears to be a 24/7 disputation and edit warring history and that his current user identity is masking a dubious past. I also assume his short history as User:124x247x221x146 (talk) /blocked User:124.247.221.146 (talk) gives indication that there are blocks on his previous user name/s. Again thank you for your input and assistance and my apologies for bothering you with this again today, perhaps this needs further review. Felix505 (talk) 04:14, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

I tried a couple of edits on Ngurah Rai International Airport today as I hoped User:124x247x221x146 (talk) had managed to calm done. He reverted every edit I made. So I stopped editing again. I have left a response to him on Ngurah Rai International Airport page and I have left a couple of messages on User talk:MilborneOne (section-124x247x221x146) seeking his assistance in establishing an IP block on this individual. My reasons are detailed there as I do not wish to burden you with being a go-between. I am of course happy to talk with either of you about this but I thought it best to burden him with the heavy lifting as you seemed to be referring to him already. It is up to you as administrators of course but frankly I think this guy is a couple of biscuits short of a full pack and he is downright belligerent to boot. I cannot edit with him around. He just deletes. Sorry to be banging on your door again, perhaps you could run your eye over my talk page and Ngurah Rai International Airport and it's discussion page. Thanks. Felix505 (talk) 11:15, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

I have protected the article from editing for the moment as users contine to edit war, hope this will encourage some discussion. MilborneOne (talk) 13:21, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Mjroots, can you please have a look over my edit proposal on the Destinations table of the Ngurah Rai International Airport article and the addition of a weblink in the External sites section. I have painstakingly reviewed the content of the airline and destination content, found some more oversights and errors including a couple of my own and really I can see no reason why anyone would object to that content if it were uploaded now. I am certainly not infallible but it is a vast improvement on what I found there originally. The result of 124xxx's editing is still there and although he did return a couple of my edit details the bulk of them remain deleted and the table is really quite inaccurate and misleading. I have draw attention to a couple of entries that could benefit from your overview as to the appropriateness of them being in the table. I have also supplied a table with the airlines URL's and a full breakdown of the edits with the sources and reasons for changing the original table and the current version on the page edited by 124xxx. I hope you are able to find the time to have a look at it. I have left a copy of this message with MilborneOne as well. If either of you have great issue with the formatting I have used then please do not bother to consult with me on it as it will just delay the process of getting some accuracy into the table. If you really don't like it or have some issue with it then just go ahead and change it. It is after all (normally) a work in progress. Thanks. Felix505 (talk) 16:01, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Wind Jet 243

Hi Mjroots, yes it looks that you mis-read the translation of google traslator:

• Translation: Around 200 people were stranded on Sicily for two days due to the ferry MV Palladio suffering a breakdown and being forced to remain at Agrigento while repairs were carried out.
• Facts: Around 200 people were stranded on Lampedusa (one of the small islands of Sicily) because there where no flights Palermo-Lampedusa and at the same time the over-night ferry MV Palladio in service on the route Porto Empedocle (near Agrigento, Sicily) to Lampedusa had suffered a breakdown (anchor not working) and was forced to remain in P.E. while repairs were carried out.

Now, A) 200 people stranded in Lampedusa are a tiny minority of the people affected by this accident when over 40 flights had to be diverted (85%) or cancelled. B) The breakdown of the ferry was only a coincidence that made things worse for those stranded on the small island C) I think you made a bit of confusion between Sicily, "Mainland" (Italy) and the Islands of Sicily. It will be my pleasure to help you with the article...btw, have a look at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Wind Jet Flight 243. Ciao!--Sal73x (talk) 03:13, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

About the 200 of Lampedusa, I would leave this bit out of the article because as them many other people were stranded in Rome, Milan and Venice and had no cover from the media. Being stuck in a tourist resort (even if an island) is better than being stuck in grey Milan ;-). Either of those people (who on Lamp. and who in Milan/Rome) reached Palermo 2 days later by plane. Why mention the first and ignore the seconds? I have added two reference (1 in english and 1 in italian) about flights diverted to TPS and CTA.--Sal73x (talk) 06:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Mjroots, here are two more articles about "Flight 243", here1 and here2 that could be useful for reference. BTW, if you should need any help in the future to translate something (news or wikiarticles) from italian to english just give me a shout.--Sal73x (talk) 15:58, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Geotags

Geo Links and Geograph

There are problems with your suggestion- which is the reason I haven't done it. There is a discussion forum Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates that is discussing the whole thing. The crux is that many people are unhappy if the link goes to one site, no matter how useful, and believes that the link should only go to GeoHack, where the reader can choose the map they want. There are a lot of unhappy people there. I have a problem with the way we are doing the conversion. It looks great, but if we edit either gridref or the location then the other doesn't change. In looking for a solution, I have been looking at the maths and a lot doesn't add up, this coupled with the volatility of forum, I have been hanging back. ClemRutter (talk) 18:32, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello there, and thanks for the contact. To me this looks good, but (and it is a big but) I'm afraid the issue appears more complex and contentious than I had first anticipated. I'm also not particularly "clued-up" about which system is good and which is bad, which seems to be part of an ongoing debate. All I know is that there should be a standard system, and these should be included as part of the text for settlements in the UK. Have you taken this to Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates? -- Jza84 · (talk) 23:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Infobox geotags- looks as it will take some time. Its on my list! ClemRutter (talk) 01:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Checking inline geotags

• Now the accuracy of OStoWiki has been corrected (+/- 2m) all previous references may need tweaking.
• The GeoHack tool now has a new interface and at the bottom of the GB section, under the dangerously inaccurate grid reference is a fantastic tool called Map of all Coordinates in article.
• I tried it on the Loose stream, and because of it I I'm going to make another tweak to OStoWiki.

ClemRutter (talk) 21:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

It is perfectly safe to use: the next tweak will be an enhancementClemRutter (talk) 23:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Oscoor

Thanks for the reminder. Although I use OS maps within multimap to find things, multimap gives DMS output, and the numbering of the OS gridlines in the display tends to be hidden; so I tend to think I'm not ever going to use {{oscoor}}. However your intervention did cause me to go back and read the national grid system article, so as to understand the resolution of various lengths of OS coordinate. As I would not have done this without your intervention; thanks! --Tagishsimon (talk) 15:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Problem with gbmapping and oscoor templates

Hi, There seems to be a small inaccuracy in the translation of OSGB coords to WGS84. I've mentioned it here and here but haven't found anyone who might be able to fix it. Do you know where it would be best to raise it, please?--Cavrdg (talk) 20:45, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Mills

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100 mills

Hi Mjroots, congratulations with 100 mill articles about dutch windmills on en-wikipedia. At least counted from the interwiki's to 'en' on the dutch wikipedia here. (number 100 will show up this night.) Akoopal (talk) 20:18, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I know you didn't do all. Still you created number 100 :-) Always nice to mention milestones. Akoopal (talk) 20:38, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK hook for Lille Mølle

Yeah, I saw that. Your comment was a little ambiguous, did you mean you can speak Danish? If you've read the source yourself, I think we could AGF the hook, it's a pretty simple hook and there's not much chance you might have misread it. Gatoclass (talk) 13:57, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay, look, I'm afraid I can't spend any more time reviewing hooks tonight, I was going to quit 45 minutes ago but then had to respond to a couple of queries. If someone else hasn't reviewed it by then, I'll run it through Google translate myself tomorrow. Gatoclass (talk) 14:10, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

List of United Kingdom windmills on Dutch Misplaced Pages

Hey Mjroots, I was wondering when you had planned to start the article as written above on the Dutch wiki, so that I can improve the article on your sand box even further. Thanks in advance! Casperinfo (talk) 12:41, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I will start editing shortly.

Casperinfo (talk) 23:10, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Paltrock- und Bockwindmühlen Langerwisch

Hi Mjroots, please have a look at de:Paltrock- und Bockwindmühlen Langerwisch. Regards -- Beaverbear (talk) 18:57, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

West Mill @ Regency Square, Brighton

Hi Mj. All the sources I'm consulting at the moment say it was a post mill, but the New Encyclopaedia of Brighton intriguingly says it "may have been rebuilt in 1762". (But with no more detail than that!) I've added as much as I can about the mill in the History paragraph; do add further info if you can. For the narrative flow, it may be better to keep it as part of the History section rather than creating a separate subsection. I'll be editing the article for the next ~3 hours, then will resume tomorrow sometime. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:28, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

That's probably the same picture as I have in the Dale book (Fashionable Brighton 1820–1860). I'm logging off now for the evening, so there's no danger of any edit conflicts if you want to add any more. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:38, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

I've come to the conclusion that Hemming got the mill type wrong, there was no smock mill. I've rewritten the bit about the windmill. There may have been two mills on the site; the first was there in 1744 but may have gone by 1762, with another having been built by 1765 and moved in 1797 - either that, or Ogilby missed the mill and there was a mill on site continuously from 1744-97. Anyway, it's covered in the text. One thing with the ref, how do you get an ISSN to show? Mjroots (talk) 05:57, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for adding those bits. I've fixed the ISSN by putting it in the |id= field and prefixing it with an {{ISSN}} template (diff). Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 07:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

If it's got an ISSN but no ISBN, that suggests a periodical not a book, so wouldn't {{cite journal}} be better? --Redrose64 (talk) 13:27, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

People

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Lewis Hamilton

I deleted the editnotice because as the article is now under pending changes, it shouldn't be necessary. Feel free to restore it if you want, though. Black Kite (t) (c) 06:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Ivy Bean

Um, you're 24 hours late. I stopped commenting on it 24 hours ago LOL. No use trying to convince a bunch of people who are into the aged... I more than made my point, without success it would seem. If you seriously stop and think about it it is proposterous is it not to have a biography on the entire life of someone who uses facebook and happened to be old. Why not an effective paragraph in the facebook/twitter article? Dr. Blofeld 20:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

As for signature, its not really something I think about. Black and white seemed pretty plain to me. It was supposed to be like that for the "aevil" theme I've got going. I guess it needed changing some time or other. There are thousands of worse signatures than mine though, with bright yellow on blue with pink etc... BTW how it your Dutch windmill project going these days? Dr. Blofeld - 15:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC) 21:28, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Is mine worse than yours? It's got pink in --Redrose64 (talk) 15:31, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Pictures

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Deletion review

I have posted a question at Misplaced Pages:Deletion review#Image:Sarre86.jpg which you may be able to answer. Can you please return to that discussion to answer it? Stifle (talk) 11:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Geograph

I have a bot on Wikimedia Commons that uploads photographs from Geograph:

• commons:User:File_Upload_Bot_(Edward)
• http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Gallery.php?wikifam=commons.wikimedia.org&img_user_text=File_Upload_Bot_(Edward)

I've also upload a lot using my regular account:

• http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Gallery.php?wikifam=commons.wikimedia.org&img_user_text=Edward

Edward (talk) 19:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

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HMS Archer (D78)

Thanks for your message on my talk page . My memory of image uploads from four years ago is more than a little hazy, but I will try to help as best I can. Searches at Haze Gray and the Naval Historical Center turned up nothing quite like the photo in question, but I think I found it at NavSource . The image there has "IWM" listed for "Contributed By And/Or Copyright." Today I presume that stands for the Imperial War Museum, but back in 2005 I probably did not know and just assumed it fell under the "Or Images Believed To Be In The Public Domain" listed on the site's copyright information page . However four years later (and with a significantly better understanding of WP:IUP), I recognize that is not a good assumption to make. I also tried searching the Imperial War Museum web site, but while I found a similar photo , I could not find this image.

How do you feel we should proceed from here? My recollection is that after uploading around a dozen images of escort carriers in September 2005, I decided that my understanding of IUP was not nuanced enough and I stopped. These images should probably be reviewed and deleted as necessary. I will double-check with a MILHIST coordinator and if they concur, I will start sometime this week. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your patience, — Kralizec! (talk) 15:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

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Places

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Bradford City Hall

Hi. Thanks for your question. I'm ashamed to say I've never been to Bradford City Hall, even though I wrote the article on it. I'd love to go. I did speak to a local journo who said that it was OK to take photos in there, though. (Some town halls are a bit weird about photos; no-one has told them about panoramafreiheit.) Anyway, what I could do for you is to phone Bradford Council tomorrow and if I'm lucky I'll get some bored employee who would just love to leave their desk and look at the windows. People never look at anything, and you can bet your life someone is working beneath your window day in, day out, and hasn't noticed it. If I forget, keep reminding me until I do it. It would be a fun job to go and photograph it. I need to do a winter photo of Bradford Industrial Museum, anyway - you can't see the jolly thing for trees in summer.--Storye book (talk) 21:09, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Update: I rang Bradford City Hall, and they had not heard of any such memorial window. Someone kindly investigated for me, and they rang back today and said that it's a mistake, and there is no architectural feature such as a memorial window dedicated to this lady. There is a movable installation within the building, incorporating a display dedicated to her and to other local heroes. I'm told that this is in a public place and that I can visit it. I shall photograph that for you when I can - hopefully during the next couple of weeks - but I'm sorry there is no window to photograph. I guess that there is a slight possibility that there may be a memorial window in a church somewhere, and that could explain the error, but I don't know how to investigate that.--Storye book (talk) 11:05, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I've just heard that I may be able to visit the City Hall tomorrow. I'll see what I can do.--Storye book (talk) 12:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Update: Just letting you know that because Coronation Street is filming in the building for the next two weeks, it will not be permissible for me to get into the building to see the display which includes B.J. Harrison. The staff have tried to fix it for me today, but cannot. I'll try to do it in two or three weeks' time, though. If I appear to be delaying or forgetting, please kindly give me a reminder. Thanks.--Storye book (talk) 10:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Churches in Friesland

I’am pretty sure they all are but the website is kinda slow and searching seems difficult somehow on my pc. So I won’t be adding the numbers.(at least for now). Pindanl (talk) 15:13, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Tudeley and treacle

Hi there.

The problem with the treacle mine entry is that although it is amusing it does not add much to the general content of the page.

If you were to expand the Tudeley article to include a lot more information about the place, and then add your (quite amusing) treacle mine ref for good measure I would have no problem.

But when the article is just 120-odd words in length, to devote 10% of them to treacle mines seems disproportionate to me.

Best wishes

TT20 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tishtosh20 (talk • contribs) 15:12, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Hamilton Road Cemetery

Hiya,

No, I didn't..what a time to be on holiday and not see the 'frickin' article on BBC! Thankfully they've posted the piece on the web. As far as I know, they think, with some justification, that it's a D017, but there doesn't appear to be a definite identification of it being THE D017 in my article, although the circumstantial evidence seems strong. Being local, I'm hoping to talk to the guys featured and see if I can find out some specifics. I'll pass on what I can but as this would constitute original research, I guess I can only point interested readers to other external content like the BBC Kent page :-( Bummer! Kbaughan1 (talk) 22:19, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

List of museums in Kent

Hi, thank you for adding to the list, but I am working on it as well and we seem to be overlapping. Please leave the type "mill" for all grinding mills, including windmills and watermills, as this is the category name for Category:Mill museums in England. The type of mill can be noted in the summary. Also, Down House is located Downe in what is now the London Borough of Bromley and is not considered to be in Kent. I will continue to update the museum listings with complete information. Jllm06 (talk) 20:21, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Hobart 2020 Bid

So please allow me to clear something up. It is ok for other users to edit pages with no knowledge at all of the material that is posted on the page, yet when somebody with the knowledge edits it with relevant sources to back the information up, it gets deleted and that is ok with that user then being threatened? The information on the 2020 Summer Olympics page was vandalised by somebody claiming it to be an April Fools joke then it was removed completely due to this (check the edits) and then it is falsely claimed by another user to be illegitame and 'not taken seriously' despite the obvious references to it being a legitimate bid? Brisbane has no intent to bid for the 2020 Olympics yet it remains on the page, so tell me, where is the fairness in this involved?

NYC 55david (talk) 12:48, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I suggest you get your facts right NYC 55david! I never said it was an April Fools joke nor did I vandalise the article, I also have given you a very good reason in the edit summary why it shouldn't be added and I have better things to do then reverting self promotional crap. Bidgee (talk) 14:33, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

(Posted also to Australia and Tasmania project talk pages)

Ahah legitimacy - a few people in Tasmania are capable of creating a semblance of legitimacy by having a web page presence, facebook page and a few newspaper articles on an item - I would suggest information is never particularly straight forward - the actual proposal was in fact an april fools joke (the state of Tasmania has less than 500.000 population - the prospect of an isolated state on the outer side of the planet being capable of attracting either the money, facility or infrastructure for such a bid is close to absurd) - to give credence to the gullible - facebook, and newspaper cites alone may look 'good' and 'valid' - but ahh, I used to live in a part of Tasmania that had the marvellous total population of less then 5,000 people at any one time in the last 50 years.

The interesting thing is it did start out as a joke - see http://www.gamesbids.com/eng/olympic_bids/future_bids_2016/1216135135.html - and like chinese whispers and good media stories that run beyond the original intent and take on a life of their own - there are people who move it up a rung to try to keep the story going - I would suggest that any inclusion of such an item needs to be qualified specifically as to what it started out as - and that the probability of anyone in Australia being prepared to support the bid as being next not nothing and not even something a betting person could even start to make odds on - Tasmanians cannot even vote on a clear majority government Tasmanian state election, 2010 due to the Hare-Clark voting system, I suspect they will be preoccupied with many other things other than finding the finance for Olympic bids in the near future SatuSuro 13:52, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

B&H template

Stations: tempting, but people might think I'd gone mad! I decided to keep them in the other Brighton and Hove template (Template:Brighton and Hove) because their transport function is more relevant than their status as a building (although Portslade is, admittedly, Grade II-listed). All the redlinks should fill up over the next few weeks, all being well! Cheers, Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 17:11, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Tsk, I misread my source... thanks for spotting that! Maybe I was subconsciously thinking about my local windmill, which I visited on Sunday... Incidentally, the New Encyclopaedia of Brighton (just published, hence my rush of Brighton-ish articles) identifies almost 20 past and present mills in the present city area. Could be worth a "Windmills in Brighton and Hove"-type article in future, so look out for that (if I ever get a chance!). Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 18:14, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Spitsbergen, yet again

Hello, it’s this again. The RfC has gone quiet, and I’m not sure how these things are supposed to resolve, so I’ve been bold and posted the draft section.
I’m mindful I didn’t acknowledge your comment on the sandbox draft; were you suggesting that Spitzbergen is currently a common alternative spelling, or that it has been in the past? If the first, I’d agree, personally, but I get the impression it’s a minority opinion, so for the sake of neutrality I left it out. If the second, I’d hoped I’d said that by saying Sp z "became the English spelling thereafter", but I can firm it up.
Anyway, we shall see what happens...Xyl 54 (talk) 23:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

This seems to have flared up again; your input would be appreciated. Xyl 54 (talk) 13:15, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: Panchkhal

What? ~EDDY ~ 21:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I consulted the original source, and it verified what you predicted. Thanks for pointing that out. ~EDDY ~ 22:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Mediterranean location map

Hi. You'll be pleased to know I've created Template:Location map Mediterranean. I envisage this map being used on naval battles/Roman/Ancient battle marker locations and shipwrecks in the Mediterraean. Please introduce it to articles. Dr. Blofeld 18:50, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Paddlesworth

I think its OK at present - but worth putting it on your watchlist please.— Rod 10:00, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Wormshill

Hi, and sorry I had to revert your edit with the geobox. Easy to miss these things when scrolling through. No harm done though. As for the template, I think it may be a little too involved for somewhere as small as Wormshill. I'm pretty sure it's not a high-traffic page and the related content links probably don't need to be collated in a template. Not sure if it would jeopardise its FA status either as the powers that be can be a bit tetchy about these kinds of things. I'll hold off for now. I do think it's quite a neat little feature for some of the larger towns and cities though and thanks for your continuing input/interest. Dick G (talk) 15:46, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Railways

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NG Railways

I've seen your "debate" on the trains page, two comments, and no attempt to gain wider input. Not very edifying. --Michael Johnson (talk) 07:31, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Railway gauge categories

No problem. Meanwhile I'll get on with translating! Regards. --Bermicourt (talk) 21:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Snowdown engines

See my reply on my own talk page. Best wishes, 8474tim (talk) 16:42, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Rivers

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River Len

Mike I feel quite pleased with myself! I had found the relatively new Geobox|rivers at River Trent and investigated. You will now see the result at this article (I took an easy one first!). There may well be other information - I couldn't work out the coordinates, and in any case a river covers more than one; couldn't find the exact length; and dunno if there is anywhere to be able to get flow rates etc. You may well be able to add more tributaries - I took the ones you had alraedy mentioned under the mills. None of the blanks come out until you give some information. I had also discovered the exact location of the source - a historical document on the Medway; I'm sure you also know more about its course, although perhaps that isn't too important. Peter Peter Shearan (talk) 21:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Mill symbols

As you see I have put two new symbols into your sandbox article. Just a quick fix. Using mills in this way is quite an extension. Come September we need to define what symbols we need- mills with weirs for example, millponds goits. I have been visiting the Dark Peak and realise how much more important water engineering was in the 1780s and the growth of the Cotton Industry. Still I am taking a break now. ClemRutter (talk) 08:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I have been talking with guys at WP:RIVERS and trying to work out what icon system to recommend. In a nutshell, the cyan worms are out, rivers are dark blue unless you need to differentiate- then non-navigable are light blue and navigable are darkblue. but I am still working on it. You have source at the top. River Len, Kent seems to be correct. See also Manchester Ship Canal for an upside down example. Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Rivers#Route diagrams gives the discussion.--ClemRutter (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Cadeau

fr:Fichier:LeteaMill.jpg is heel mooi! --ClemRutter (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Medway diagram

This takes a little thought. I like diagrams- very useful for showing mill locations- but there is a convention on canals that navigable should be darkblue and non navigable light blue. The tails as steams meet the river seem clunky. I have been concerned about the representation of reservoirs for some time- is a reservoir navigable or not- how do you show the dam bypass channel. In the simple case: a truncated salami would do- but they often are constructed at the confluence of several rivers. A lot of icons need some thought- and that will take a little time- I will put it on the list. (Some mills are on the wrong bank but that is minor). --ClemRutter (talk) 11:56, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I have put in far too many hours playing with the diagram on my talk page. Please look over- and see if there is anything to add- you will need to proof read the position of the mills relative to the new locks, and the addition of the Beult and the two mouths of the Teise. I have added some new icons to Template:Waterways legend particularly putting curved dams on reservoirs. --ClemRutter (talk) 19:27, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

To be positive: it is getting there. A few of your changes I don"t like. A river is a hydrographical item, as well as cultural one. The first uncollapsed diagram needs to stand in its own right, and give the reader basic infomation about its course. The collapsed bits need to show the twidddly bits, that the Teise at Yalding has bifurcated, and where mills were situated. When the course is a navigation we need info on the locks. Background colour needs to show whether the river is tidal, a navigation, or non-navigable. The section names are taken from the NRA, and are used by the waterways community- I don't think Lower Mid Upper is really informative. The whole diagram (uncollapsed) needs to be complete and informative in itself. I think that we should do another round of rollbacks and improvement then wrap it in a template and ask the WP:RIVERS for comment on any points where policy decisions need to be made. I would like to use it as a model to be attached to their policy page. I then want to code up the River Etherow, Irk, Irwell, Medlock, Goyt can't you just smell the cotton. --ClemRutter (talk) 13:08, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, width is critical when using collapsable box- expand all the section to see it isn't broken by the change. Titles a lot better- I took one look and thought- I knew I was about to to do that-- but I can't remember having done it. These wretched dock icons look awful- I am going to redo them- I cant see why a narrow dock should be five times wider than the river. I am more concerned about the length if the diagram, then allowing the diagram to be included in Kent pages that make a mention to the Medway. Then into Infoboxes.I am uploading images along the commons:Portland Basin- Ashton Canal at the moment.--ClemRutter (talk) 11:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Do you know this one? Template:Medway Navigation--ClemRutter (talk) 13:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

v t e River Medway
Legend
00.0 Source TQ 334 359 51°06′25″N 0°05′37″W / 51.10694°N 0.09361°W / 51.10694; -0.09361 00.0 Upper Reaches  B2028  Fen Place Mill  B2110  Bluebell Railway West Hoathly Stream Weir Wood Reservoir Mill Place Foundry East Grinstead Stream Brambletye Mill  A22  Three Bridges to Tunbridge Wells Central Line Tablehurst Mill Parrock Forge Hartfield Iron Mill  B2026  Hartfield Stream Warren Brook Waterdown Forest Stream Groombridge Stream Ashurst Mill  A264  Oxted Line Kent Water Ashurst Furnace Chafford Mills  B2188  Poundbridge Stream Barden Mill Stream Pound Mill 00.0 River Eden to Leigh River Eden  B2176  Ensfield Mill Ensfield Road Limit of navigation Redhill to Tonbridge Line  A21  Ramhurst Mill Powder Mills 00.0 Leigh to Yalding South Eastern Main Line Tonbridge Tonbridge High Street  B2260  28 Town Lock Town Mill Cannon Lane  A26  Southborough Bourne 25.6 Eldridge Lock 24 Porters Lock Hartlake Road 22 East Lock Tudeley Brook Pen Stream 20.8 Oak Weir Lock River Bourne Sluice Weir Lock Branbridges Mill Branbridges  A228  Medway Valley Line 00.0 Yalding to Allington Lock Site of Stoneham Lock River Teise Greater Teise Sluice Twyford Bridge  B2162  Lesser Teise River Beult Hampstead Mill Hamptons Bridge  B2162  15.3 Hampstead Lock Breden's Boatyard Hampstead Marina Hampstead Lane Canal Wateringbury Stream Wateringbury Bridge West Farleigh Stream 10.4 Teston Lock Teston Bridge  B2163  Barming Bridge East Farleigh Bridge 7.5 Farleigh Lock Line to Tovil Goods station Loose Stream River Len  A20   A20  Maidstone Maidstone East Line Boxley Stream Allington Castle 00.0 Allington Lock to Rochester Allington Lock  M20  Cossington Stream Aylesford Bridge East Malling Stream Friars Mill Addington Brook Holborough Brook Borstal Mill Cuxton Mill High Speed 1  M2  Priory Mill Strood Tide Mill Rochester Rochester Bridge  A2  Chatham Main Line Strood, Thames and Medway Canal Chatham Chatham Tide Mill Chatham Dockyard Medway Tunnel  A289  Gillingham The Swale Isle of Sheppey Thames Estuary   TQ 903 758

Well it is certainly ready to be wrapped in a template- so I have. We can do further editing there {{River Medway map}}. I did do one change as the Tidal estuary is downstream from Rochester.

True. There is a limit to the sort of ship you can drive under Rochester Bridge. I think the commissioner of HM Dockyard would agree with me. The London Stone is at Upnor, which is/was the upstream limit of the Port of London- but Rochester is miles from the Swale or Thames. This wrretched river never does things simply!--ClemRutter (talk) 08:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Rivers

I have been putting a bit of input into Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Rivers‎; that may interest you. Later tonight I will be posting some of the changes. --ClemRutter (talk) 17:52, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Template:River Waveney map

Hi. I notice you have updated the River Waveney map, but was a little surprised to see that it now runs from south to north. One of the problems of the transposition is that several of the adjoining rivers are now shown on the wrong side. Oulton Broad should be on the other side, as should the River Yare, and the Haddiscoe cut is no longer clearly labelled. I was going to try to sort it out but am a bit short of time at the moment. Bob1960evens (talk) 18:52, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I am back from holiday now, and have moved Oulton Broad, Haddiscoe Cut and the River Bure back to where they should be, corrected the direction of the locks, and produced a windmill symbol for the windmills. However, I have no sources for which side of the river the windmills should be on, and as the river and Haddiscoe Cut have now been transposed, wondered if you could just check them. Thanks. Bob1960evens (talk) 18:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Ships

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Avrazya

You did so much work on the Mariam, that I hope that you will help edit an article for the Avrazya, the ship that was hijacked by Islamist militants in the Black sea in 1996 Black Sea hostage crisis.AMuseo (talk) 16:41, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I used google translate, but while it has this ship being converted for use as a car ferry, sold to Trukey and sailing out of Trabizond, which was the port form this the ferry was departing when the hijacking took place, the sale was in 1997. the hijacking was in 1996. Moreover the name is wrong. It says "1997 05th Sold to Karden Line, Istanbul, Turkey. Renamed KARGEM." Further down the page we find "2000th Sold to Trabzon Birlesik Denizcilik ve Ticaret, Turkey. Renamed AVRASYA II." So it looks as though this was the second Avrasya owned by a Turkish shipping or ferry-operating firm. And that we are looking for a different ship that was already in Turkey and called the Avrasya in 1996.AMuseo (talk) 19:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Brilliant. Variant spellings appear in reports of the hijacking. But you have found the ship. Will you now edit this material in? If you're doing that now, I'll go do something else.AMuseo (talk) 21:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Left note for you at AMuseo's talk- think Avrasya is same ship. Djembayz (talk) 23:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Added photo links, wikilink. Called it C-class for now, will leave it to others to assess coverage / NPOV. You've done a lot of work! Djembayz (talk) 23:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for finding that information on the MV Avrasaya.AMuseo (talk) 11:04, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

It should be MV Avrasya. See http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/avrasya_I_1953_b_1.htm, read the name on ship in the image. I think it's the same ship here, it's registered Aydemirler transportation company:http://www.aydemirler.com/default.asp?current=nak&lang=tr We should move it to MV Avrasya again, an admin can help. (Btw, I have added the names of hijackers) Kavas (talk) 00:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Turkish press and television used the name Avrasya in 1996. Here is a scan of 18.01.1996 issue of Turkish daily Milliyet: . Although it is a low quality scan, you can see the name Avrasya on the ship as you look at the photo which was taken in 1996 carefully. (I can see only 7 letters, but I cannot see 8 letters on it.) Once again, I have read Milliyet newspaper from 17 to 20 January 1996. The newspaper used Avrasya name on these issues, indeed on any issue. Kavas (talk) 17:52, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

A note: According to Milliyet (issue on 10.07.1992), a ship named Avrasya was hijacked without any political reason on 10.07.1992. The ship was hijacked by its passengers who had been kept hungry and thirsty by crew on a voyage between Venice and Kuşadası. Kavas (talk) 18:10, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

MV Mi Amigo, at DYK.

Hi, just wanted to let you know I've reviewed your submission to DYK. I think it's good to go, but I've moved it from under the September 3rd header to under the September 2nd header, based on the article's history. Thanks for contributing to DYK! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 00:28, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi,

As asked I had a small go at cleaning up the "Early History" of the Mi Amigo - checked the refs and they are still good.

As for the rest of it ...... Much looks valid - a general re-write might not come amiss. Unfortunately I havent time. I see some pl_nkers' had a go with Ronan O'Rahilly and the {{cn}} marker --Keith 14:16, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Ship naming discussion

I thought you might like to know that the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (ships) has moved on considerably since you contribution on 15 September. After reading your comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ships#Italics_in_article_titles on 23 September, I thought you might appreciate a quick pointer. Shem (talk) 09:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Belgica

Hi Mjroots, Yep, the source you used says that between 1916 and 1917 she was called Isfjord, but a number of Norwegian sources I've looked at (here's a newspaper article, for example, here's another mention) say that in 1918 or so she was renamed back to Belgica by her new owner, Kristian Holst. The scuttling cause is probably the correct one, though, as I can't find info on the ship being sunk by German aircraft in the book Flyalarm by Sten Stenersen, which is a recognised work on the air war over Norway. Harstad was bombed on the 19th, but she is not listed among the sunken ships. She might have been damaged that day, though, which may have led to later misunderstandings. I now also think she was scuttled, in June 1940 when the Franco-British forces pulled out of Norway. WIll go and change that.

With regards to the linked article, I couldn't agree more. I was thinking about splitting them myself, and then expand the original Belgica.

By the way, there's something I been thinking of asking you for a while now, what system do you use when you name ship articles where the ship has had more than one name? That's something that often causes me some headache.

Cheers! Manxruler (talk) 17:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with regards to ship names. I keep finding sources that say Belgica was sunk in Brurvika Bay near Harstad on 19 May (an example with a reference, so I think the present solution, with both possible causes of loss presented, is the best one. Manxruler (talk) 21:43, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Great work on the Belgica article. One very important thing, though: The ship wasn't scuttled by the Franco-British Expeditionary forces when they evacuated from Harstad on 19 May because they didn't withdraw from Harstad on 19 May. The allies only left Harstad around 7-8 June 1940, when they withdrew fully from Norway. So that combination of sources (one for the probable scuttling and one for the date) doesn't work. We have to find another way of doing that section. If scuttling is the way to go, and I think both causes really should be mentioned, then we can't use the 19 May date. Manxruler (talk) 20:42, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. What I'll do then is to search for sources on the Allied evacuation of Harstad (the evacuation was linked to Operation Alphabet), and see if the date of the evacuation can be added. I'll also keep on looking for sources on Belgica in 1940. I too believe the likely course of events to have been that she was bombed on the 19th (probably damaged, beached even), and then scuttled when the Allies withdrew. Manxruler (talk) 20:54, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Sport

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Re: 2010 F1 season/Hamilton

Don't fret man, I'm sure we've all made errors like that at some point during our Wiki lives. We learn and learn every day. :) Regards. Cs-wolves(talk) 15:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I know, but I was just trying to trim some of the page size by removing the refnames of references that did not have another reference point in the article, as in the only mentioning of the reference. Bad idea in hindsight, but just trying to trim every little unnecessary byte off the page. Regards. Cs-wolves(talk) 17:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Already responded there! Cs-wolves(talk) 18:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I also believe the ref name tags give unnecessary weight to the article.  Kitchen Roll  (Exchange words) 18:18, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Lewis Hamilton

It'll probably help that the 115.134.x.x range is out of the way; though I'm sure that's not the only IP range in Malaysia! Black Kite (t) (c) 09:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Flags for F1 race

You undid my edit on the 2010 European Grand Prix because I changed the flag to European one from Spanish one. I think it is better to put the European one, because it is officially named the European Grand Prix. Of course, there is a Spanish Grand Prix, but all other races have their respective flags, bar this one. M-R-Schumacher (talk) 14:55, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok, seen it. Also, thank you for putting my edit as a good faith edit, and not vandalism - because I just edited it thinking that the European flag was the correct one. M-R-Schumacher (talk) 17:09, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you are quite correct about everyone learning about Wiki (but I guess everyone will be learning about it until they reitre, and the site does need admins :P). And, I am also trying to fight vandalism, so it would have been quite ironic if I were accused of it! M-R-Schumacher (talk) 17:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikiproject Water Sports

Hi Mjroots

I thought you might be interested in joining this new project Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Water sports/RNLI task force, as you have contributed to articles concerning Lifeboats and shipping  stavros1  ♣ 

Re: My editing

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Signpost

Thanks!

Mjroots, thank you very much for the star and kind words. Appreciated. Herostratus (talk) 13:00, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

RFA Thank spam

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which failed with 10 support, 26 oppose, and 13 neutral. Your comments were much appreciated.

--White Shadows 17:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

WP:CENT

I believe my addition was appropriate, as an issue that is Misplaced Pages wide. Is there an appropriate venue to discuss this, such as the talk page or WP:AN? Mjroots (talk) 11:04, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

The talkpage of the source of the conflict is acceptable - no need to move the venue. Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment is a common place to announce a discussion on article content, as are the talkpages of any related WikiProjects, and perhaps a request for input on the talkpage of any relevant guidelines where editors experienced in such matters are likely to come forward. People who tend to have Cent watched, are those who are interested in policy related discussions. Misplaced Pages:Canvassing gives more advice. Regards SilkTork * 11:15, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Notification

Please see Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Proposed_amendment, and the subthreads above it. You are being notified as you were one of the users who proposed or discussed the original sanction. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi:)

Hi Mjroots. I took the liberty of adding a link to one of your replies at the Help Desk. I hope that's ok with you. Warm regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ 08:59, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Editnotice you created

Hi Mjroots, would you please remove the editnotice you created? Although I am unhappy with the mention of Persia in the lead and all that one complete paragraph on the name in the lead, but I accept it like this. I also removed a duplicate of the sentence "formerly known as Persia". Thanks. Xashaiar (talk) 20:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Your discussion at ANI

Hi - just wanted to say sorry I missed the discussion you raised earlier regarding disruption at AFD, as I completely agree with you. There are some editors, not just the one you referred to, who seem to take any opposing view personally, and feel the need to argue against it. This applies to other !vote discussions as well as AFD, eg RFA. The problem is that there isn't currently ant guidelines against this, just good essays such as WP:STICK. Perhaps some sort of bahavioural guideline about this could be put written with this in mind, stating that querying one or two opposing views is acceptable, whereas querying most or all could be considered disruptive. I'd certainly support any such guideline.

Meanwhile, hope you don't feel to stressed about the issue. Keep up the good work! —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) (logged on as Pek) 19:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I feel the urge to justify my closing the discussion, it's the least you deserve since the thread was brought in nothing but good faith. First of all, for the stated purpose of the thread, I applaud that you brought it, checking in with the community is an important way to get a quick sanity check when you're unsure of something - it's why there are so many self-brought block reviews posted on ANI, people recognize the value of it. The response came in at snowy levels, which, while indicative of consensus, wouldn't have been worthy of a boxing of the thread. That came about because of the bickering and sniping going on between Mick and a couple editors. Basically, the discussion found he did nothing wrong in the XfD's, but as a consequence of that discussion he started toeing up to the civil line and others were pretty clearly baiting him to try and get him to step over it. When an editor is caught up in that sort of situational double entendre its best to just let everything cool down- It's hardly fair to punish someone for their response to a request for sanctions about an incident that wasnt worthy of sanctions in the first instance. Don't interpret this as me sheltering Mick from anything. If you're willing to look back 3 or 4 years ago (around this time), you'll find Mick wasn't always the deletionist he's cast to be - When myself and others began enforcing the WMF licensing policy and removing screen shots from lists of episode articles to correct gratuitous fair use image abuse, he directed quite a bit of his anger at myself. I shrugged it off. I've edited as an IP since 2004, have had this account since 2005, and have seen a lot of angry, angry users. Mick is ornery but he's not a troll and his intent is to improve the project. That earns you a lot of toleration. We are willing to put up with a lot of shit if you have a genuine desire and ability to help build a free/libre reference work on your own time for the benefit of all humanity. Take a Carl Sagan moment to think about the implications of what we are all doing here right now and it helps bridge the differences between contributors. There's a lot less separating us and all our different views and a lot more bringing us together and for that reason alone it means we are all deserving of a bit of respect from each other, at least enough to do a fellow contributor a favor by not letting him shoot himself in the foot. -- ۩ Mask 20:10, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

RFC

Please note: Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Mjroots. MickMacNee (talk) 19:01, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Root causes

The roots seem to be found in the following record. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:40, 19 September 2010 (UTC).

Clerk elections

Hi, this is just to inform you that elections for Clerkship at WP:UAA have started on the talk page. You have been sent this message because you were recently active in handling submissions or discussions. Discussion is ongoing and you are encouraged to voice your opinion on the candidates.

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of Fridae'sDoom (talk) at 06:47, 14 September 2010 (UTC).

Wow

It seems barnstarts are a bit passe these days - very impressed by your continued and sustained hard work at cleaning up shipwreck lists - well done! SatuSuro 07:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Well if I had the technical savvy I'd make the very quiet shipwreck project a barnstart so you could get it! - It must be a few years since I have touched the australian ones - and the southeast asian ones (ie shipwrecks that dont have arts or lists) are crying out to have more work done on em - cheers anyways SatuSuro 07:16, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Touche (the irony ....) - and for all the things I said a few years back about the ships project :( - and the deadness of the shipwreck project in general - me thinks I am only one with your really good work on watch! oh well maybe I should try ... and as I am about to start the damned Asia project next week or so - hey with that I should get some practice with template work - and... well dont hold your breath :| SatuSuro 07:27, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Profoundly embarrassingly silent - (like many projects that hide their inactivity) - some time back I somewhat put a few noses out by claiming that over-tag by some established ships members of shipwrecks article exhibited nothing short of profound ignorance (but I said it a bit more circuitously) - as the scope and overlap issue made the over-tagging absurd - but I seemed to be facing the barrel of a milhist/ships mafia hit squad - so I simply shrugged and walked off - then since after my absence off wp while i was travelling last year I have noticed little or no activity - apart from the odd message - similar to the Australian maritime history project that I started - I personally still believe the overlapping issue to be one of fairly absurd proportions - bit like some other projects who take their scope a little too literally - but as for anyone who might pop up at the talk page - I have no idea, I suspect little or no reaction might be the possibility - probably better just to do something - specially if it gives some possible life to the shipwreck cause :( SatuSuro 12:39, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

A moment

I just want to let you know, you're pretty much awesome. I laughed a bit at your latest reply on ANI. It's a good thing that you can make a good one liner like that (which also makes a jab at your goal) and keep your good humor about you. It seems like we're never quite on the same side on anything, so I dont have many opportunities to spout off some nice things about you, but know that that is solely a consequence of circumstances. I'm fast becoming impressed with you. Still disagree though :) -- ۩ Mask 17:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Re: Other users

Earlier discussions are archived here

User:Babakexorramdin

The user is blocked by you, but replied to you and is awaiting a response. Just thought I'd let you know. warrior4321 06:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: User:Tasha9713

Re: your message: Ooops, thanks. It happens from time to time because I'm typing everything (obviously). Call me old fashioned (maybe even a bit lazy?), but I never got around to using any of the fancy warning tools and the like. Usually I catch that mistake, but must have missed it while juggling multiple things I was trying to deal with. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Lazy? No, lazy is having {{subst|uw-vandalism|}} saved ready to cut and paste, just leaving level of warning and article to be filled in. Mjroots (talk) 05:23, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Spitsbergen, again

Hello:
Regarding the RfC discussion here; I've made a proposal there, and your comments would be appreciated. (I've extended the same invite to the other editors involved, also).Xyl 54 (talk) 23:35, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Can you have a word

Here we have yet another of Eugen Simion 14's news articles. It'll be at AfD by morning and gone in a week, wasting everybody's time since I can't speedy the damn thing. Could you have a word with him and see if you can firmly persuade him to take it to Wikinews, which welcomes that sort of thing, or stop the deluge of these articles on unexceptional events that are almost always deleted. This is getting to be an issue of either WP:CIR or WP:IDHT. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages: Articles for deletion/UPS Airlines Flight 6

Can you look at the discussions in this AFD? Bzuk (talk) 01:26, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your response; I totally agree with your stance re: the recent RFC, but appreciate the awkwardness of your position. Cheers, and thank you again. Bill Bzuk (talk) 05:59, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

User removing Nazi icons

This guy User talk:24.180.106.119. You warned him yesterday after ANI report, since when he has done it twice more in last hour and (I have reverted both and issued warnings as vandalism - not sure if that was the right category). Elen of the Roads (talk) 15:41, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

24.180.106.119 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has not learned not to move Flag Icons. Dapi89 (talk) 13:02, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

IP 219.93.197.153

— SpikeToronto 07:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

— SpikeToronto 04:02, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Miscellaneous

Earlier discussions are archived here

Flag of the Isle of Man

Ok, thanks. I wrote the right version and i corrected the mistake. Sorry for that error. Thanks again. Bye--Perkeleperkele (talk) 18:36, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Jersey civil ensign

I noticed that someone had created an image: File:Civil Ensign of Jersey.svg. Man vyi (talk) 05:09, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Thankyou

I suppose this fits under "misc." I just wanted to say thanks for supporting my RfA. It's always nice to see a familiar sig in the support section, but I'm humbled that you think I'm ready. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:56, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

ITN

Just FYI, Misplaced Pages talk:In the news/Candidates redirects to WT:ITN and has done since last September. It's up to you, but that might be a better venue than AN since you'll be more likely to attract admins who are involved in ITN. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:36, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Lib Dems election wins

re your comment on my talk page. No i believe they only did win one seat, i'll double check the meridien tonight program again. hayyzzz96 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hayyzzz96 (talk • contribs) 16:41, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

--JAHelg (talk) 20:46, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

User C628 and references Don't know if you already saw it, but I never got a chance to let you know since I was in the middle of trying to leave the house. Cheers, C628 (talk) 17:14, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

New messages

Ship collision

Wow, that and the danube toxic sludge - the european media have something to feed on this weekend - some weekends leave them scratching to find stories - cheers for the tip SatuSuro 08:28, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Sort of reads like an april fools joke story - the ship name for a start - Sky news source. SatuSuro 08:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

None of the wire services that are used for and or bay the main Australia media are not even carrying the story yet ... SatuSuro 09:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

They are now SatuSuro 10:37, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Snowdown steam locos

Looking again at my photos, I see that there was a third loco, of the same design as the others. Its name is not legible.

I forget, after the passage of time, how my enthusiast-friend and I knew about the steam locos at Snowdown, but I suspect that the information may have come from the Newsletter of the Locomotive Club of Great Britain; perhaps they had organised a visit there. The date was 1968-9 or maybe even early 1970.

You might also find this site useful: http://www.industrial-loco.org.uk/

Good luck and best wishes 8474tim (talk) 17:16, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Herne, Kent

Thanks for tidying up my work on the above - but please could you kindly explain why you changed "Commons category" to "commonscat" in the template? I always used to write it as commonscat, too, but then various tidy-uppers and bots came round and changed them all to "Commons category", so I'm trying to fit in with whatever is the current requirement. Have they changed it back again? Thanks. --Storye book (talk) 08:04, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. If I had left the pipe at the end, that was accidental - I had been attempting to add "inline", to try to get it to appear as a text line instead of a box, then I would have put it under "See also" subheading. However I couldn't remember how to do that. So far, none of my non-Wikipedian friends and acquaintances have been able to see or find the commonscat box in a Wiki article, even when I tell them it's at the bottom right of the article page. It seems to be invisible to them all; I don't know why. I was hoping that the public might notice it as a line under "See also".--Storye book (talk) 08:59, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Re postcards of windmills and watermills. I do have an interest in windmills and watermills, but so far I only have my own photos of those, and have uploaded all that I have, except for Thwaite Mills. The Thwaite photos will take a lot of editing and other work, so it's still not done. However I did use it in a series of Russian music films, and you can see Thwaite waterwheels working here: 006, 007, 008, 011, 015. --Storye book (talk) 09:25, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Dabbing English

Yep, I've been disamming it almost daily for a couple of years :) Just a typo. Thanks for catching it. --User:Woohookitty 10:43, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Podostroma cornu-damae DYK

Thank you for moving my article to the right place Mjroots. It's my first DYK submission. :)--Sateros (talk) 07:22, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Lists of abbeys and priories in England

Thanks for your suggestion. The reason for the current format is the limitation of the Misplaced Pages formatting which limits the number of references which can be used in a single page. I have considered alternatives (such as excluding some details from the England page so that they are only visible in the county pages, but that does not remedy the shortcomings to any great extent given the number of references). At one time the England page was made by one contributor into virtually just a list of counties with links to the county lists - which really just undermined the subject and purpose of the page, which is to provide a list of all the establishments in England. JohnArmagh (talk) 20:39, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually the List of windmills in the Netherlands illustrates precisely what I mean - it isn't actually a list of Windmills in the Netherlands, but a list of lists of windmills in the Netherlands. In the List of abbeys and priories in England there are in fact no duplicate lists to be deleted - the individual county lists are each transclusions in the England list - the problem comes because Misplaced Pages limits the total number of transclusions and references, meaning the one page had to be split alphabetically by county. JohnArmagh (talk) 19:10, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Each of the counties in England has a sufficiently large list to warrant an individual list for that county, and it is that list, rather than a duplication of it, which is transcluded into the main page. JohnArmagh (talk) 19:40, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

The red links in List of abbeys and priories in England – Counties B-K demonstrate what happens when more references are included on a page than the Wiki software can currently cope with. That is why I had to split the page in the first place, and why I had to limit List of abbeys and priories in England to just the counties from B to D instead of B to K. JohnArmagh (talk) 19:55, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

On what page is there a red link to List of abbeys and priories in Kent? I am unaware of ever using that page name. (If you scroll down page List of abbeys and priories in England – Counties B-K you will see a large number of red links where the pages exist. There is nothing wrong with the syntax, as the page suggests, rather it is (as I have diagnosed) that there are simply too many references on the page, and the syntax is not being correctly interpreted by the software.) JohnArmagh (talk) 21:10, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

The way around that is to have individual reference lists for each section, rather than one big one at the end. You don't need any fancy group stuff, just put

{{reflist|close=1}}

at the bottom of each section, and it'll gather together all undisplayed references, display them, then "close" the list so that the ref sequence starts again at . --Redrose64 (talk) 11:10, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

As I said before, the redlinks are caused by limitations of the software which makes the software read the syntax as a page which does not exist.

Yes, the redlink page does not exist, but that is because the software is misreading the name of the page, not because the name of the page it should be reading (given that the syntax itself is correct) does not exist.

This is how the syntax which transcludes the Kent list appears on this (your talk page (because the limit of references has not been exceeded):-

(edit Kent list)

Foundation	Image	Communities & Provenance	Formal Name or Dedication & Alternative Names
Aylesford Priory *		Carmelite Friars founded 1242 by Richard de Grey, Lord of Cudnor (Richard, Lord Grey); conventual church built 1242–1248; rebuilt 1348–1417; dissolved 1538; granted to Sir Thomas Wyat 1541/2; church demolished, conventual buildings converted for private residence; rebuilt after fire 1930; Carmelite Friars from 1949	'The Friars'
Badlesmere Priory		Augustinian Canons Regular founded 8th century
Badmonden Priory		Augustinian Canons Regular (?)alien house: cell dependent on Beaulieu, Normandy dissolved 1414; granted to St Andrew's Priory, Rochester; dissolved 1540; granted to the dean and chapter of Rochester
Bilsington Priory ^		Augustinian Canons Regular founded 1253 by John Mansell (Maunsel), Lord Chief Justice of England; dissolved 28 February 1536; granted to the Archbishop of Canterbury 1538/9; used as a farmhouse through post-medieval period; remains now incorporated into a house
Blakwose Priory		Premonstratensian Canons cell of Lavendon, Buckinghamshire founded before 1158; transferred to St Radegund's after 1203–4; retained as a grange of the abbey; dissolved c.1377	Blackwose Priory
Boxley Abbey ^		Cistercian monks daughter house of Clairvaux; founded 23 October 1143 (1143/46) by William de Ipre, Earl of Kent; dissolved 21 January 1538; granted to Sir Thomas Wyat 1540/1; part of remains now incorporated into a private house	The Priory Church of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Bilsington
Brockley Abbey	Historical county location. See entry under London
Canterbury Austin Friars, earlier site		Augustinian Friars founded 1318 by Richard French, baker (licence granted to Walter Reynolds, Archbishop of Canterbury by Edward II to alienate part of the former Friars of the Sack site to the Austin Friars); transferred to new site (see immediately below) 1324
Canterbury Austin Friars		Augustinian Friars (community founded at earlier site (see immediately above) 1318); transferred here 1324; rebuilt 1408; dissolved December 1538; granted to G. Harper 1541/2
Canterbury Blackfriars ^		Dominican Friars (under the Visitation of London) founded c.1236 (c.1221) by Henry III; church built 1237 to after 1244; dissolved 1538; granted to Thomas Wiseman 1559/60; frater currently in use as a church of the Church of the First Church of Christ Scientist
Canterbury Cathedral Priory		secular canons possibly collegiate founded c.600 (598): Roman church restored by St Augustine with the aid of Æthelberht, King of Kent; episcopal diocesan cathedral founded c.600; extant; Benedictine monks founded 997; rebuilt 1070 under Archbishop Lanfranc; dissolved 1539;	The Cathedral and Abbey Church of Christ, Canterbury, The Cathedral Church of Christ, Canterbury
Canterbury Friars of the Sack		Friars of the Sack founded before 1274; some friars apparently transferred to new site at Cambridge before 1289; dissolved after 1314
Canterbury Greyfriars, earlier site		Franciscan Friars Minor, Conventual (under the Custody of London) founded 1224; transferred to new site (see immediately below) c.1268
Canterbury Greyfriars		Franciscan Friars Minor, Conventual (under the Custody of London) (community founded apparently on a site north of the hospital (see immediately above) 1224); transferred here c.1268: founded 1270 by John Diggs, an Alderman of the city; Observant Franciscan Friars transferred 1489; dissolved 1534; Franciscan Friars Minor, Conventual transferred from Observants 1534; dissolved 1538; granted to Thomas Spilman 1539/40
Canterbury — St Augustine's Abbey		Benedictine monks (assumed) founded (598-605) 598 by Æthelberht, King of Kent on the advice of St Augustine; Benedictine monks (re)founded c.960; dissolved 30 July 1538; (EH)	St Peter and St Paul St Peter, St Paul and St Augustine (978) The Abbey Church of Saint Augustine, Canterbury
Canterbury — St Gregory's Priory		secular monastery founded by 1087 (before 1086) by Lanfranc, Archbishop of Canterbury; Augustinian Canons Regular refounded c.1123; church destroyed by fire 1145, rebuilt; dissolved 1536 (1537); granted to the Archbishop of Canterbury 1536/7	St Gregory's Hospital
Canterbury — St Mildred's Monastery		purported early Saxon monastery; probable minster 8th century
Canterbury — Priory of St Sepulchre		Benedictine nuns founded c.1100 by Anselm, Archbishop of Canterbury; dissolved 1536; granted to James Hale 1546/7	St Sepulchre's Nunnery
Canterbury — St Mary of the Angels Friary *		Franciscan Friars Minor involved in running the Franciscan International Study Centre; extant	Friary of St Mary of the Angels
Cliffe Cell		Cluniac monks
Combwell Priory		Augustinian Canons Regular abbey founded c.1220 by Robert de Turneham; reduced to priory status c.1220 due to endowment shortfall; disputed between Augustinian and Premonstratensian — found in favour of Augustinians c.1230; dissolved 1536; granted to Thomas Culpepper 1537/8; granted to Sir John Gage 1542/3	Cumbwell Priory; Combwell Abbey
Darenth Priory		Benedictine monks cell, apparently dependent on Rochester founded after 971: Archbishop Hubert granted the manor of Darent; dissolution unknown
Dartford Blackfriars		Dominican Friars (under the visitation of London) founded 1356; attached to the nunnery (see immediately below); prior and friars recorded 1373; dissolved 1539
Dartford Priory		Dominican nuns (or Augustinian Canonesses) subject to King's Langley, Hertfordshire founded 1346 by Edward III in the buildings of a former royal palace; dissolved after Elizabeth Cressener died and after 1 April 1539; Henry VIII built a manor house on the site; granted to Edmund Mervyn 1540/1, afterwards becoming the property of the Earl of Salisbury; Dominican nuns — from King's Langley refounded 1558; dissolved after 1559; granted to Anne of Cleves by Edward VI; later used by Queen Elizabeth; alienated by James I; J & E Hall's engineering works built on part of site	St Mary and St Margaret ____________________ Dertford Priory; Dartford Nunnery
Davington Priory^		Benedictine nuns founded 1153 by Fulk de Newenham; dissolved 1535; granted to Sir Thomas Cheney 1546/7; church in now parochial use — priory buildings in private ownership; restored as a private residence 19th century; since 1982 owned by Bob Geldof	The Priory Church of Saint Mary Magdalen, Davington; (parochially also dedicated to St Lawrence)
Dover Priory, earlier site		Saxon minster, secular canons founded 640 by Eadbald, King of Kent; transferred to St Martin's c.696 (see immediately below) by King Wihtred; church apparently rebuilt 10th century; repaired 1582, but practically unused thereafter and in ruins by 1724; in use as a Fives' Court early-1790s; in use as a garrison coal store during Napoleonic Wars (1793–1815); restored 1862 by Sir George Gilbert Scott and 1888 by William Butterfield	St Mary in Castro (St Mary in the Castle)
Dover Priory ^		secular canons transferred to from site within the castle (see immediately above) c.696 by King Wihtred; (?abbey 697); Augustinian Canons Regular refounded 1131 by Henry I and William de Corbeil, Archbishop of Canterbury; Benedictine monks — from Canterbury (who forced withdrawal of Augustinians) 1136; monks apparently withdrawn; Benedictine monks — sent from Canterbury by Theobald of Bec, Archbishop of Canterbury 1139; cell dependent on Canterbury; dissolved 1535; remains now incorporated into a private school: Dover College	The Priory Church of Saint Mary the Virgin and Saint Martin of the New Work, Dover
Dover Minster		Saxon minster founded 691; rebuilt 1070s; in parochial use as the Church of St Martin-le-Grand, from 16th century; demolished 18th-19th century; remains destroyed during World War II
Dover Preceptory (?)		Knights Templar founded c.1128(?) apparently transferred to Temple Ewell before c.1185; (EH)
Eastry Monastery (?)		a monastery purportedly founded before 673 by King Egbert — existence doubtful
Elfleet Monastery (?)		founded by Domneva  — probably Ebbsfleet possible duplication of Minster in Thanet Nunnery
Erith Franciscan Friary *		Capuchin Franciscan Friars founded 1902; present church opened 1963; extant
Faversham Abbey		Cluniac monks — from Bermondsey, Surrey founded 1148 (1147) by King Stephen and his queen Maud (Matilda) (apparently only nominally Cluniac from the outset); Benedictine monks 13th century (before 1207: by the reign of Henry III); dissolved 8 July 1538	St Saviour
Folkestone Priory, earlier site		Saxon minster and Benedictine? nuns founded before 640 by Eadbald, King of Kent — built in the castle precinct; destroyed in raids by the Danes before 927 (before 924); Benedictine monks alien house: dependent on Lonlay founded 1095: church granted to Lonlay by Nigel de Munevilla and his wife; abandoned 1137: transferred to new site (see immediately below)	St Mary and St Eanswith
Folkestone Priory		Benedictine monks alien house: dependent on Lonlay; (community founded at earlier site (see immediately above) before 640); transferred here 1137, permission granted to William de Albrinsis; became denizen:independent from 1399; dissolved November 1539, when priory was ruinous; leased to Edward, Lord Clinton; granted to him 9 January 1539	Falkstone Priory
Greenwich Friary	Historical county location. See entry under London
Higham Priory		Benedictine nuns alien house: dependent on St-Sulpice-la-Forêt; founded c.1148(?) (1551) by King Stephen; became denizen: independent from after 1227; dissolved 1521–2; granted to St John's College, Cambridge by Henry VIII 1522	Lillechurch Priory; Littlechurch Priory; Heyham Priory
Hoo Monastery		Benedictine? monks founded c.(686-)687: land on the island (later Hoo St Werburgh) and adjoining granted tn Ecgbald and his familia monastery under an abbot 716; destroyed in raids by the Danes 9th century?
Horton Priory ^		Cluniac monks alien house: cell dependent on Lewes, Sussex; founded c.1142 by Robert de Vere; became denizen: independent from 1351–74; dissolved 1536; granted to Richard Tate 1338–9; thereafter granted to --- Mantell; remains now incorporated into a private house	The Priory Church of St John the Evangelist, Horton ____________________ Monk's Horton Priory; Monkshorton Priory
Hythe Monastery		uncertain order and foundation
Leeds Priory		Augustinian Canons Regular founded 1119 by Robert de Crevecoeur (Croucheart/Crepido Corde), Kt.; dissolved c.1540 (1539); granted to Sir Antony St Leger 1550–1	St Mary and St Nicholas ____________________ Leedes Priory
Lesnes Abbey (Westwood Abbey)	Historical county location. See entry under London
Lewisham Priory	Historical county location. See entry under London
Lossenham Friary		Carmelite Friars founded c.1242-7; destroyed by fire 1275; rebuilt; dissolved 1538	Lossenham Whitefriars
Lydd Monastery		Saxon minster possible monastic house founded after 774: land granted to the Archbishop of Canterbury; destroyed in raids by the Danes 893; Anglo-Saxon remains incorporated into All Saints' parish church
Lyminge Abbey		Benedictine? nuns founded c.633 by Ethelburga, daughter of Æthelberht, King of Kent, on the site of a possibly Roman villa; monks and nuns refounded before 736 under Abbot Cuthbert; ravaged in raids by the Danes, but continued to after 964 (the time of Archbishop Dunstan); Saxon church, rebuilt c.965, incorporating remains of abbey church	Liming Abbey
Maidstone Friary		Carmelite Friars 13th century Allington Castle site sold to Carmelites 1951; in private ownership early-21stC
Maidstone Franciscan Friary		Franciscan Friars licence obtained 13 May 1331 by John atte Water to alienate in mortmain to the minister and Friars Minors of England property and land in Maidstone to build an oratory and dwelling-place; establishment never implemented
Minster in Sheppey Priory		Benedictine? nuns founded c.670; destroyed in raids by the Danes before 900 (855); Benedictine nuns founded before 1087; Augustinian Canonesses? refounded 1123 (1130?, 1150) by William de Corbeil, Archbishop of Canterbury; Benedictine nuns refounded 1186?; Augustinian Canonesses refounded 1396; dissolved 1536; granted to Sir Thomas Cheiney (Cheney) 1537/8; remains of conventual church incorporated into parochial church	St Sexburga St Mary and St Sexburgha ____________________ Shepey Priory
Minster in Thanet Priory, earlier site		Saxon minster and Benedictine? nuns founded 669, granted by King Egbert to his niece Domneva to found a monastery; destroyed in raids by the Danes 1011; transferred to new site (see immediately below) secular collegiate Benedictine monks granted to St Augustine's Abbey 1027 by King Cnut; refounded as a grange of St Augustine's; 11th-13th century parochial church of St Mary reputedly built on site	St Domneva
Minster in Thanet Priory		Benedictine nuns transferred from earlier site (see immediately above)	St Mary Virgin St Mildred
Minster Abbey *		Benedictine nuns founded 1937; built on site of the earlier abbey (see immediately above); extant
Minster in Thanet Nunnery		Benedictine nuns founded c.750, built by Ermengitha, sister of Domneva destroyed? in raids by the Danes 980
Minster in Thanet Priory		Benedictine monks founded c.670, granted to Domneva by King Egbert, her uncle; destroyed in raids by the Danes 980; dependent on St Augustine's, Canterbury; granted to St Augustine's by Cnut 1027;	St Mary Virgin
Moatenden Priory		Trinitarian monks founded 1224 by Sir Michael de Ponynges; dissolved 1538; granted to Sir Antony Aucher 1538/9; site now occupied by a house named 'Moatenden Manor'	Mottenden Priory; Headcorn Priory; Muttiden Friary
New Romney Priory		Cistercian monks and nuns — double house alien house: grange dependent on Pontigny; founded 1264; dissolved c.1414	St John
New Romney Greyfriars		Franciscan Friars Minor, Conventual (under the Custody of London) founded before 1241; dissolved c.1287	Romney Greyfriars
Newington Priory		Benedictine nuns foundation unknown; transferred to Minster before 1087(?) secular canons from between 1154 and 1170; possible secular college, probably dissolved before 1179
Ospringe Crutched Friars		Crutched Friars founded before 1234; dissolved c.1470; became a secular hospital
Patrixbourne Priory		Saxon minster Augustinian Canons Regular alien house: cell dependent on Beaulieu, Normandy; founded c.1200; dissolved 1409; restored 1849 by Mr Marshall of Canterbury and 1857 by Sir George Gilbert Scott; church in parochial use as the Parish Church of St Mary	St Mary
Reculver Abbey		Benedictine? monks founded 669, granted to Bass (Bassa), priest, by Egbert, King of Kent; destroyed in raids by the Danes; annexed to Canterbury 949 by King Eadred: abbot and Benedictines probably removed; under a dean until c.1030	Raculfe Abbey
Rochester Cathedral Priory		secular canons founded 604; dissolved 1080; episcopal diocesan cathedral founded 604; extant; Benedictine monks refounded 1080 by Æthelberht, King of Kent; dissolved 1540	The Cathedral and Priory Church of Saint Andrew, Rochester
St Mildred's Monastery		purported early Saxon monastery; probably a minster 8th century
St Radegund's Abbey		Premonstratensian Canons daughter house of Prémontré; founded 1193; dissolved 1536; now in private ownership	Bradsole Abbey
Salmstone Priory		Benedictine monks residential grange and manor with chapel dependent on St Augustine's, Canterbury
Sandwich Whitefriars		Carmellite Friars founded before 1268 (before c.1272) dissolved 1538
Sittingbourne Austin Friars		hospital, hermitage and chapel Silvester, the superior, apparently became a member of Austin Friars and received a grant to alienate the foundation; Austin Friars founded 1255; dissolved 1256?, Silvester apparently lapsed and the foundation ceased to be an Austin establishment	Shamele Austin Friars
Shoreham Minster		Saxon minster founded before 700; present church on site, the Parish Church of SS Peter and Paul, built between 1230 and 1270 (during the reign of Edward III) on the site of an earlier church
Strood Hospital		hospital founded 1192-3 Benedictine monks founded 1330: required master to be a Benedictine monk; dissolved c.1402; continued as hospital to 1539	St Mary
Strood Preceptory		Knights Templar
Sutton-at-Hone Preceptory		hospital founded before 1199; Knights Hospitaller granted 1214; preceptory established; lapsed before 1338 and farmed out; evidently revived shortly afterwards; dissolved 1358; remains in use as chapel and private residence; (NT)	St John's Jerusalem
Swingfield Preceptory		Sisters of the Order of St John of Jerusalem cell foundation unknown; transferred to Sisters of St John Priory, Buckland, Somerset c.1180; Knights Hospitaller founded before 1180; dissolved 1540	St John's Commandery St John's Chapel
Temple Ewell Preceptory, Ewell		Knights Templar founded c.1185, benefactors William, brother of the King, and William Peverelle; dissolved 1308–1312; Knights Hospitaller refounded 1312; dissolved 1540; remains incorporated into parochial church
Thanington Nunnery		St James's hospital founded before 1164; apparently became nunnery or sisterhood before 1343, with regular priests or brethren to after 1415; possibly ceased to be a hospital, at least for a time; dissolved 1551; granted to Robert Dartnall 1551/2	Tanington Hospital
Throwley Priory		Benedictine monks alien house: cell dependent on St Bertin, St Omer; founded c.1150 by Hugh de Chilham and William de Ipra; dissolved 1414; granted to Syon Abbey; house named 'Glebe Cottage' built on site	Thurleigh Priory
Tonbridge Priory		Augustinian Canons Regular founded before 1192 (late in the reign of Henry II) by Richard de Clare, Earl of Hartford (confirmed by the Pope 1192); dissolved 8 February 1525; became ruinous between 1753 and 1780; site later occupied by a railway goods station	St Mary Magdalen
West Langdon Abbey		Premonstratensian Canons daughter house of Leiston; founded 1189 (1192) by William de Auberville; dissolved 1535; granted to the Archbishop of Canterbury 1538/9; site now occupied by 16th-century farmhouse currently in use as a holiday cottage	St Mary and St Thomas Martyr of Canterbury ____________________ Langdon Abbey
West Malling Abbey		nuns founded 688(?); no further reference until: Benedictine nuns transferred from Twickenham founded c.1090 (during the reign of William II) by Gundulf, Bishop of Rochester; transferred to Milford Haven; dissolved 1538; granted to Henry Cobham, alias Brook 1569/70	The Abbey Church of Saint Mary, West Malling
West Peckham Preceptory		Knights Hospitaller founded 1337 by Sir John Culpepper; dissolved 1540; granted to Sir Robert Southwell 1543/4;	West Peccham Hospital; West Peckham Camera

(That was using a the precise syntax from the page with the redlink)

However, because of the shortcomings of the software (I'm a programmer, so I do know how to diagnose the nature of an issue, even if I am unable to read the source code) it is reading the name of the page as localurl:List of monastic houses in Kent when it should not be reading "localurl:" as part of the page name. JohnArmagh (talk) 12:31, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

QE

You added an edit war warning to my talk page without good reason. Since you obviously have difficulty counting beyond the number two (I have only ever made two edits to the QE page, and not on the same day or even on successive days) the warning about edit wars and three reverts per day was both inappropriate and aggressive, since a study of the record will show that I have never, ever made three edits on any single day to any article. You are reminded that even administrators are obliged to show good faith. You should apologise for a hasty and unwarranted intervention.

Afterwards you might turn your attention to the text of the QE article. Much of it (and esp the service history section) reads almost like a PR handout from the shipping line. I do sometimes wonder if some contributors (unlike myself) are Cunard or Carnival employees or PR staff. George.Hutchinson (talk) 13:56, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Detailed aircraft histories

We, the contributors to the Aviation Project, would like to know your thoughts on this matter. Per aspera ad Astra (talk) 23:06, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer

I may well take you up on that one day soon, when I have a chance to get back to editing in earnest. Hope you are doing well. Tiamut 07:20, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Oxen Hoath

Hi, I just approved your hook on the DYK nominations page. I'd just like to note this article has an inordinate amount of red links. Unless you're planning to write articles about all these people, I respectfully suggest that you de-link them. Best, Yoninah (talk) 21:35, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the archiving tip. I'll do it at the end of this month. Yoninah (talk) 21:50, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Awaaz foundation

I want to add logo and one photo to Awaaz Foundation. This article is in DYK queue 3. Foundation have authorised me to use these logo and photo in the article. Kindly let me know which copyright tag should I use? . Shlok _{talk .} 07:32, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Sark

Thanks for locking Sark. It would be of assistance if someone else could look at the sources cited. I've been trying to persuade La.coupee to come up with sources that contradict the Guernsey sources, but for some reason there's something personal creeping in. Man vyi (talk) 07:39, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I agree. Very sensible action on your part. I'd taken a little wiki-break before you took action, anyway, as the situation was becoming too silly to continue, and I'm only coming back today because there's some work I need to do an a completely unrelated topic. Thanks again. Man vyi (talk) 09:43, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

MMN

as an admin you might want to give your input about Mick's conduct at AfDs here. cheers.--Wikireader41 (talk) 03:18, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

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