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| *'''Keep''' - So what if the airline the jet belonged to isn't notable? A quad-jet cargo aircraft crashing into a dense neighborhood of a major city is a very significant event. Very extensive worldwide coverage. There's evidence this was caused by a ] and this case will most certainly be studied for a long time to come in efforts to understand and hopefully prevent tragedies like this again.--] (]) 19:54, 28 November 2010 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' - So what if the airline the jet belonged to isn't notable? A quad-jet cargo aircraft crashing into a dense neighborhood of a major city is a very significant event. Very extensive worldwide coverage. There's evidence this was caused by a ] and this case will most certainly be studied for a long time to come in efforts to understand and hopefully prevent tragedies like this again.--] (]) 19:54, 28 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Speedy Keep''' - per the two preceding Keep comments. Also, this seems to be a frivilous AFD just for the heck of it - no real thought at all, just a vague NOTNEWS comment. - ] (]) 20:02, 28 November 2010 (UTC) | *'''Speedy Keep''' - per the two preceding Keep comments. Also, this seems to be a frivilous AFD just for the heck of it - no real thought at all, just a vague NOTNEWS comment. - ] (]) 20:02, 28 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
| ::: Let's assume good faith. Under the current version of ], accidents don't necessarily merit a stand alone article unless they also pass the significance test of ], and ] is a legitimate concern when an article is created in response to news. While my personal opinion is that a guideline that used to be way too inclusive has evolved into way too strict, it's a fair question about whether a recent news event can be expected to attain long range significance-- and in that instance, it's a matter of opinion. In this case, it was a cargo carrier rather than a passenger airliner, although there were also at least four people killed on the ground. The significance of a lack of an article about the Sun Way Airlines is that there's no redirect target if the consensus were that this didn't merit a stand alone article. ] 20:46, 28 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
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WP:NOTNEWS. Planes fall from the sky far too often for every one to be notable and the airline the aircraft belonged to isn't even notable. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:09, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep The Il-76 is a large aircraft. The fact that the airline does not have an article does not mean that it is not notable. This accident completely destroyed the aircraft, killing all eight crew on board, as well as between 4 Aviation Herald and 18 Korrespondent (in Russian) ground casualties. Coverage has been worldwide, including Russia, United States and the United Kingdom, thus establishing coverage outside the immediate local and regional press. Mjroots (talk) 19:18, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - So what if the airline the jet belonged to isn't notable? A quad-jet cargo aircraft crashing into a dense neighborhood of a major city is a very significant event. Very extensive worldwide coverage. There's evidence this was caused by a bird strike and this case will most certainly be studied for a long time to come in efforts to understand and hopefully prevent tragedies like this again.--Oakshade (talk) 19:54, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep - per the two preceding Keep comments. Also, this seems to be a frivilous AFD just for the heck of it - no real thought at all, just a vague NOTNEWS comment. - BilCat (talk) 20:02, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Let's assume good faith. Under the current version of WP:AIRCRASH, accidents don't necessarily merit a stand alone article unless they also pass the significance test of WP:EVENT, and WP:NOTNEWS is a legitimate concern when an article is created in response to news. While my personal opinion is that a guideline that used to be way too inclusive has evolved into way too strict, it's a fair question about whether a recent news event can be expected to attain long range significance-- and in that instance, it's a matter of opinion. In this case, it was a cargo carrier rather than a passenger airliner, although there were also at least four people killed on the ground. The significance of a lack of an article about the Sun Way Airlines is that there's no redirect target if the consensus were that this didn't merit a stand alone article. Mandsford 20:46, 28 November 2010 (UTC)