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Template: User Engliand and England Alt

I have changed all the UK-related flags for consistancy (see Misplaced Pages:Userboxes/Location/United Kingdom). I moved the original to Template: User England Alt. It is, of course just a matter of adding "Alt" to your User page. --Mal 18:11, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

My version worked fine. It is consistant with all the other UK-based flags now. I have used the reference Template:User England for consistancy and created the new template Template:User England Alt to reflect this. Sorry for the minor inconvenience. --Mal 18:21, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Why are you repeatedly reverting the work I have done? All you need to do is to edit your User page and add ' Alt' to refer to a userbox that conforms to your other boxes. I have been careful to keep the work done on that template, and move it so that the UK-based flags are consistant. --Mal 18:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes must follow these guidelines. Many of the examples given here are non-standard. Notice the width of the icons in examples. Also, it seems a bit weird to be editing a userbox that you aren't going to use. -- Scjessey 18:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Does it seem weird to attempt to standarise the boxes? I put some work into it. The article you pointed me to states, "Userboxes can come in many different styles" and that one "looks like this". If you look at http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Userboxes#Templates you can see examples of userboxes which are quite different. --Mal 18:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Please leave the original template alone. Your new version should be the "alternate", since it is non-standard in layout. -- Scjessey 18:28, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

In accordance with the userbox project which is ongoing, I had decided to standardise the names and the layout of all the main UK-related boxes. Is it not simple to change your user page? --Mal 18:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Of course it is simple. But it would also be wrong. The original version follows standard userbox guidelines. Most of the UK-related boxes you are talking about are non-standard, so you would be better employed making those adhere to the correct guidelines. -- Scjessey 18:58, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what would be "wrong" about changing the template name in your user page. I've already pointed out that the userboxes on that page do not conform to any particular size or even standard... which is what I was trying to do actually. But I don't see the point in arguing with you - userboxes aren't exactly that important in terms of Wiki (another reason I don't understand your stubborn attitude). I guess England will remain as the odd-one-out for the time being.. perhaps until such time as the Userboxes project deems it necessary to overrule your decision to constantly revert this particular name. --Mal 19:53, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand your point of view with this issue. Please read these guidelines. You will see that it is actually the others on the UK page that are odd. The project is highly unlikely to rule against me, because I am following their own guidelines. Also, why should you make all the English users change their template usage to satisfy your own, non-standard template? It simply doesn't make any sense at all. I know you are trying to do what you think is best, but I'm afraid it simply isn't the right way to go. -- Scjessey 20:03, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

As I already said to you: the userboxes do not conform to any particular standard for layout. The couple of examples on that page do conform to the standards you suggest however. But the Wikiproject on userboxes doesn't seem to have any standard for layout - only for 'policy of use' basically. Having said all that, perhaps there should indeed be a move to standardise ALL userboxes (whether that be to the standard you see as acceptable or not) - there should be some consistancy. And again: the name of the template is, in itself, standardisation. I think the solution will be to create another "from England" userbox 'Template:User Eng' perhaps. Certainly its worth thinking about, although I'm not sure I could be bothered doing that myself. --Mal 05:49, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion. Almost all userboxes follow that same design: Category:Misplaced Pages userboxes

Quite easily. You said it yourself: "Many of the examples given here are non-standard." Looking at the Music templates alone, see the first five boxes in the opinion of Artist/band section, {{user jazz}}, {{user E-music}}, {{user bhangra}}, {{User Country}}, {{User ipod}}, {{User KROQ}} and {{User Vertigo}}. --Mal 00:08, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: your comments at User talk:Durin/Removal of fair use images

At the time that I removed the image, it in fact was not tagged as a public domain image. Please see . That tag by itself is not a public domain image tag. The image is now tagged with a public domain image tag. Please do not use images that are tagged only with that tag as being in the public domain, as they are not so and use of them outside of the main article namespace violates Misplaced Pages policy. Thanks, --Durin 12:47, 23 April 2006 (UTC)