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Sources

The sources you removed from Bosnian War with this edit may be unreliable in your eyes but by wikipedia standards they are very reliable sources and should not be removed. The issue of balance is very important and I agree that the article is not currently well balanced but please balance it with well sourced contributions. The whole Al-Quaeda thing is interesting but it is a very "academic" debate held long after the events. It may be much more useful to highlight the role of islamist fighters and state the ties with the present day Al-Quaeda rather than to try to show that Al-Quaeda is specifically involved. This is very much a post 9/11 view re-evaluating events. On the other hand I agree there was stuff about the JNA specifically related to war crimes that did not have good sources and you were right to highlight this. However, there are sufficient sources to show their involvement in the war and so this should remain. Polargeo (talk) 09:31, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I agree about everything you wrote about Al-Qaeda, but not with what you wrote about JNA because I was not talking about JNA only. I put CITATION NEEDED after VJ which means Vojska Jugoslavije, or Army of Yugoslavia. This army was born after collapse of Socialistic Yugoslavia in May 1992. and never had a single soldier in Bosnia since it was Army of federal state of Serbia and Montenegro. Stating that VJ commited war crimes against civilians and putting one debate, two university press releases and one health brochure as source for VJ commiting war crimes against civilians can be at least considered as nonreliable source, if not as insult of common mind. If someone that have less experiance did it I would assume that it was mistake. But it was done by very experianced wikipedian who knows history well. That means that quoting university press releases as source for very serious accusations against army of another state is not only against policy of wikipedia but also deliberate lie that KansasBear is trying to place trough this article. It is wikipedias loss if such people are allowed to delete well argumented statements and place unreliable sources for such serious matters. I want to believe that we are all here to write verifyable articles, not deliberately unreliable sources. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:17, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

So remome "VJ" then not the sources. As Kansas Bear has made a mistake. Say this in your edit summary and even add this explanation onto the talkpage of Bosnian War. I will watch your talkpage from now. Polargeo (talk) 10:25, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Skanderbeg revert

Hi there and welcome to Misplaced Pages. I hope you will enjoy your time here. I would like to explain further my revert: First in lede we enter only info that has been substantially expanded in the body of the article. Second, other languages are important if there are relevant primary sources in those languages: because as far as secondary sources are related, every one may have an interest in Skanderbeg: a book on him may exist in Iceland, that's not a reason to enter the name in Islandic language. Please feel free to bring primary Serbian sources, i.e. from 16th to 18th century and we may update the article. The name is in Albanian and Latin for now, because those are the primary sources we have. Thanks again! --Sulmues 15:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

The Albanian name is there because he was an Albanian. The Turkish sources do exist although I don't know Turkish, but someone will bring them sooner or later. Btw, at that time Turkish was written in Arabic, so what we currently have in the lede is not Turkish in Arabic script, which is what it should be. Listen, we are trying to write a good article, I don't understand how come as a new user you are here worrying about Albania all the time. Don't you have any other topics to write about? --Sulmues 17:54, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

September 2010

Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Skanderbeg. Such edits are disruptive and appear to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Sulmues 21:32, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I am giving you this warning because transporting my words from one page to another is disruptive. If I don't feel like writing on the talk page of Skanderbeg, you can't be the one transposing my words from your talkpage there. Thanks for your understanding. --Sulmues 21:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Albanian alphabet is incomplete, but gives a flair. The first written sentence retrieved in Albanian is considered the Formula e pagëzimit in Latin script (in 1462). The first complete book in Albanian retrieved is the Meshari of Gjon Buzuku (1555 and in Latin script again). --Sulmues 14:44, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Yep, the church depended from the Patriarchate until 1922.--Sulmues 14:55, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

There are 5 refs on that, 4 of which are in English. --Sulmues 15:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

How did you hear about them? --Sulmues 16:25, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

If I were you I would use google, that's usually a good starting point. --Sulmues 16:38, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

League of Lezhe

I would like to thank you for your edits in the League of Lezhe. I understand your concerns and believe me, I hope the article was better referenced. In general those concerns come when the article has a B status. Since much of the writings in wikipedia preceding 2007 is original research or copypasting/translating from high school books, it is difficult to discern the good apples from the bad ones. Once that an article has a B status, then it's ready for a GA application (we have only 10K GA articles out of 3.4M - 1/34). It's at that point that I would have the concerns that you have. For now, all we have to do, is to increase the referencing, otherwise, changes that we make, will never be long lived to help promote an article to higher statuses, where it reaches higher levels of protection. --Sulmues 15:02, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add defamatory content, as you did at Talk:Albanian National Awakening, you may be blocked from editing. Sulmues 15:16, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I am referring to this edit which is problematic. --Sulmues 20:20, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll try to AGF you and sorry if this warning created more confusion then anything else. In general I see a measured approach that you have, but that edit above is not called for. Everyone here, well, most of us, are trying to bring the best sources so that our countries are fairly represented. That's why there is no need to make edits such as the above. Again sorry if I created confusion. --Sulmues 20:52, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

It seems that certain editors found the 13 October 2010 a lucky day for warning others for imminent blocking. I received a similar threat.--Euzen (talk) 13:38, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to myself

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Altered speedy deletion rationale: User:Antidiskriminator/Professionalization and institutionalization of history

Hello Antidiskriminator. I am just letting you know that I deleted User:Antidiskriminator/Professionalization and institutionalization of history, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. GedUK  10:09, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot the script would leave this message! You can request speedy deletion of anything in your userspace using crtierion CSD:U1. Regards, GedUK  10:11, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, hello to you!

Hi, there, mate! ... Sorry for my non-perfect English... by the way, I had studied German, and that's why I don't know to speak or write English better than this... What's a matter, why they blocked you on Misplaced Pages in Serbian language? Have you any plan in your mind?--Nvlado (talk) 16:41, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter. We'll learn that English perfectly if we write in it continuously. I want to write a few articles about important people from Subotica and its area. If you interested, you would be pretty helpful.--Nvlado (talk) 19:43, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I asked you because it shouldn't be too easy to write articles about this people, not because I am not very good in English, but because some people would trying to vandalizing our contributions. Those guys are extra-nationalists and home-traitors, and they doesn't have anything to do in they miserable lives except to interfere us in our work. Tomorrow I'll check in library of Matica srpska what they have about one young lady from Subotica. It should be something, I'm sure. Also, I have a nice picture about her. I can send it to you if you want to take a look at it.--Nvlado (talk) 17:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I sent you a picture, you can see it.--Nvlado (talk) 18:42, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Proposal

I have proposed that you be expelled from WPSQ for the continuous disruption that you are bringing in articles covered by that Wikiproject Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albania#Request_for_comment_for_expulsion_of_user:Antidiscriminator_from_member_of_wikiProject_Albania. Bye.--Sulmuesi (talk) 02:20, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

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Nomination of Bernd Jürgen Fischer for deletion

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Nomination of Georg Stadtmüller for deletion

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Nomination of Stefan Berger for deletion

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No copyvio problems there

Well, no problem, it's still in the history of the draft, because you didn't delete the page (only an admin can do that): you just blanked the page. That page is in your user space, not in main space, so there is no harm done for copy violations. --Sulmuesi (talk) 21:43, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Can't access it now, have some firewalls, but I'll check it later. What is it about? --Sulmuesi (talk) 19:05, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I'll check Frasheri if he mentions that document: I think he does, but there are so many pages for his early life that I have a headache as soon as I read the book, and the documents when he is a statesman, both direct (written to him or by him), and indirect (documents about him) are way more numerous. The whole work of Frasheri is something like 600 very dense pages. In general the early life should be improved in the article, because the main biographers give non-according version on a couple of things, such as his timing of presence in Albania, or to be fighting for the Turks. The best way to tackle that is through notes and enter there each scholar. The best way you could help is to buy a Serbian biographer, if there is any. Petkovich seems to be the most serious: it would be nice to add something prior to achieving GA status. I am also working on a couple of Italian and Turkish sources so that we have the full picture, and then we're going to be very close to a FA status, where I think we'll be ready for in 2011. For that though, I forecast, we'll need around 200 references and we're at 125 now. Thanks again! --Sulmuesi (talk) 19:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I read the document of February 25 1420. The names of Gjon Kastrioti's sons are not mentioned. He stipulates the contract under himself and sons, without specifying their names. According to Frasheri (p.83) most of the historians agree that this type of document doesn't give any info on whether the sons of Gjon were with him or not (and this position is mainly based because they are not specified by name). --Sulmuesi (talk) 03:17, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

That map looks very good to me. --Sulmuesi (talk) 15:58, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the overall critique to the article. In the beginning you were attacking points that were very much settled, but in the last days, your contribution has completely changed and you are being extremely productive with your review, which is actually helping me improve the article. I really want to thank you for this change, because you are becoming an asset in the improvement of this article. That list will be helpful, can you please also merge in there suggestions of Cplakidas and TodorBozhinov that are in my talk page? We'll have then a full list of issues to resolve. --Sulmuesi (talk) 16:22, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Skanderbeg will definitely be remembered for his fighting skills, although he built a couple of churches. One of the castles he built was the Rodoni_Castle. For the rest he was too busy rebuilding the castles destroyed every year by Ottoman cannons. As far as Albanian Muslims to be compared to Isakovic, an equivalent would be Iljaz Hoxha. --Sulmuesi (talk) 20:26, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Skanderbeg's map

Good notice about Kastoria. Actually you are right.Alexikoua (talk) 15:09, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Kenneth Setton

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Albanian revolt of 1912

Antid. I was preparing that article and it won't be a stub like the one you created so would you mind WP:CSDing it by adding {{db-author}}?--— ZjarriRrethues —  16:41, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Re:GA after DYK

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DYK for Kenneth Setton

On 11 January 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kenneth Setton, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that American historian Kenneth Setton spent nearly two decades finishing his classic work The Papacy and the Levant, 1204-1571? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Map, re

No problem, I will translate it and I'll let you know. Best, --MacedonianBoy (talk) 23:19, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Here is the English version.--MacedonianBoy (talk) 23:36, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Marburg's Bloody Sunday

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DYK nomination of Albanian Revolt of 1912

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Republic of Central Albania

"During the negotiations between Albanian rebels and negotiators from the Ottoman Empire in 1912, those four vilayets (Kosovo vilayet, Shkodër Vilayet, Monastir Vilayet and Ioanina vilayet) were agreed to be Albanian vilayet."

This sentence is difficult to understand (if at all). Did the inhabitants agree, or did other people decide for them? Explain to me what you mean, so I can re-word it. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 19:18, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

"During the negotiations between Albanian rebels and negotiators from the Ottoman Empire in 1912, the parties had agreed to merge the four vilayets of Kosovo, Shkodër, Monastir and Ioanina." -- I think you were looking for the word "merge" (=unite, fuse) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 20:10, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Choose one. и да, (Google translate каже:) занимљива тема. Никада нисам чуо за те земље. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 20:20, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

	The Albanian Barnstar of National Merit
	I have noticed your edits and appreciated them greatly. Thank you for your contributions to WikiProject Albania. Cheers!--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 20:31, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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DYK for Republic of Central Albania

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Germenji

Antid. I was going to write that article, so please move that draft piece you started on your sandbox or csd it. Btw please read WP:COMPETENCE.--— ZjarriRrethues —  21:17, 16 January 2011 (UTC)