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===Dreadstar=== | ===Dreadstar=== | ||
====Dreadstar undid a block which he knew was an arbitration enforcement action==== | |||
(Evidence forthcoming.) | |||
At , Dreadstar unblocked Ludwigs2. A few lines above the unblock request I had previously the {{tl|uw-aeblock}} notice and a explaining the AE nature of the block. Dreadstar was therefore aware that he undid a block that was an arbitration enforcement action. | |||
====Dreadstar was aware of the rules governing reversals of AE actions and of the penalties for not abiding by them==== | |||
The {{tl|uw-aeblock}} notice on Ludwigs2's talk page contains a to the ArbCom decision in the ''Trusilver'' case as well as its full operative text, which reads: | |||
:"Administrators are prohibited from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page. Any administrator that overturns an enforcement action outside of these circumstances shall be subject to appropriate sanctions, up to and including desysopping, at the discretion of the Committee." | |||
Additionally, my linked to ], which reads in relevant part: | |||
:"'''Appeals:''' Sanctions imposed under the provisions of this decision may be appealed to the imposing administrator, the appropriate administrators' noticeboard (currently ]), or the Committee. Administrators are cautioned not to reverse such sanctions without familiarizing themselves with the full facts of the matter and engaging in extensive discussion and consensus-building at the administrators' noticeboard or another suitable on-wiki venue. The Committee will consider appropriate remedies including suspension or revocation of adminship in the event of violations." | |||
Dreadstar's made reference to that decision, which indicates that Dreadstar read it. Dreadstar was therefore aware that he was not allowed to undo the AE block of Ludwigs2 except as provided for in the abovementioned decisions, and he was also aware of the potential consequences of disobeying the Committee's decisions. | |||
====Dreadstar's unblock clearly did not meet the requirements for reversing an arbitration enforcement action==== | |||
;Requirements set forth in the ''Trusilver'' decision | |||
The ''Trusilver'' decision, reproduced above, requires a "clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard" to undo an AE action. The three-hour ] discussion that preceded the unblock, as it was at the time of the unblock, obviously did not meet these requirements. The following editors commented in between my and Dreadstar's : | |||
*Supporting the block: | |||
#{{u|Collect}}, | |||
#{{u|Protonk}}, | |||
*Not clearly supporting or opposed to the block: | |||
#{{u|WhatamIdoing}}, , does not address the block | |||
#{{u|Hans Adler}}, , possibly critical of the block ("Sandstein has decided to shoot the messenger") but does not advocate overturning it. Hans Adler was at any rate in the underlying dispute. | |||
#{{u|N419BH }}, , possibly supportive of the block ("] strikes again") | |||
*Opposed to the block: | |||
#{{u|SlimVirgin}}, | |||
#{{u|Short Brigade Harvester Boris}}, . Whether he is an uninvolved editor is open to discussion, as his show that he is heavily engaged in disputes related to Misplaced Pages's coverage of science and fringe science topics. | |||
#{{u|The Four Deuces}}, | |||
#{{u|Xxanthippe}}, . Xxanthippe was in the underlying dispute. | |||
Only two clearly uninvolved editors, therefore, opposed the block, while two others (three if one includes N419BH) supported it, and the whole discussion lasted only about three hours until Dreadstar unblocked Ludwigs2. No editor can argue in good faith that this constituted a "clear, substantial, and active consensus" to unblock Ludwigs2. | |||
;Requirements set forth in the ''Pseudoscience'' decision | |||
The ''Pseudoscience'' ], moreover, provides that | |||
:"Administrators are cautioned not to reverse such sanctions without <u>familiarizing themselves with the full facts of the matter</u> and <u>engaging in extensive discussion and consensus-building</u> at the administrators' noticeboard or another suitable on-wiki venue" (my underlining). | |||
Dreadstar did not do so. He did not only not wait for any consensus to emerge, as shown above, but he also made no attempt to engage me (as the blocking admin) in discussion, either onwiki or per e-mail, and he also did not engage in discussion with other editors, but simply announced his decision to unblock. | |||
Moreover, Dreadstar's that he read the AN discussion as "no one in favor" of the block, which is at odds with the editors' actual comments as outlined above, indicates that Dreadstar did not even properly read the discussion and that he thereby failed to familiarize himself with the full facts of the matter, as he would have been required to. | |||
By unblocking Ludwigs2, Dreadstar therefore did not comply with the Arbitration Committee's instructions, of which he was aware as shown above, in both the ''Trusilver'' and the ''Pseudoscience'' cases. | |||
====Dreadstar is responsible for the escalation of this matter to the Arbitration Committee==== | |||
Even after his unblock, and after realizing (as he claims in his ) his mistake, Dreadstar could have avoided the escalation of the problem by either | |||
*reinstating the block, as he had been , or | |||
*contacting me to seek my approval for the unblock or to propose another way to resolve the problem. | |||
He did not do so. Instead, even after being of his mistake by another user, he replied: | |||
:"It was a very bad block and in my opinion did not properly fall under the ArbCom findings. If this goes to ArbCom, so be it." , and | |||
:"I was prepared for backlash when I did it." | |||
Then he that whole talk page section, with the apparent intent of cutting off any continued discussion, and did not reply to continued messages from other users advising him of his mistake (, ). | |||
Given that Dreadstar had thus repeatedly made clear that he was not going to undo his unblock, that he had made his decision in the full knowledge of its possible consequences, that he was not ready to discuss the matter further and that he was ready for escalation to ArbCom, any communication by me (after I came back online and read the above) would not have served any useful purpose. This left me only the possibility of a request for arbitration to remedy Dreadstar's disruption of the arbitration enforcement process. | |||
I am not certain that Dreadstar's that "I waited to hear from Sandstein" can be taken at face value, because his actions (as outlined above) do not provide the slightest indication that he was interested in hearing from me - rather, the opposite. | |||
====Conclusion==== | |||
The evidence above shows that Dreadstar wilfully and repeatedly held the Committee's decisions in contempt and failed to exercise the judgment expected of an administrator. Even in view of his , which appears honest but rather belated, some kind of tangible sanction against him is still, I think, appropriate (even if not necessarily an indefinite desysop). If no such sanctions are imposed, other administrators would not be deterred from likewise wilfully undoing AE actions or even Committee decisions, which would lead to more entirely avoidable cases of this sort, and which would also substantially undermine the authority and binding nature of the Arbitration Committee's decisions. Additionally, I predict that such a development would reduce further the willingness of administrators to engage in enforcement work. | |||
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Evidence presented by Dreadstar
Unblock of Ludwigs2
Again, I apologize to the Committee. I have zero admin experience of dealing with AE blocks, and didn't realize the full implications of it. Overall, I've only made a total of four unblocks in the past two years (including this one); the other three were unrelated to AE and were of blocks made by me where the blockee gave assurances of better behavior – so I have no history of unblock abuse.
Regarding the Ludwigs unblock, I saw what appeared to be a hasty block that would increase drama, with several editors on both sides of the debate speaking out against it (and I believe no one in favor when I unblocked), so my aim was to reduce drama quickly. I apologize that my actions had the opposite effect. When I began to realize the implications of it being an AE block, I e-mailed the Committee to explain my actions. I was unsure how to proceed at that point: to reblock for the sake of process seemed wrong and unfair to the blockee, so I waited to hear from Sandstein. When he came back online he filed the case immediately, so there was no opportunity to look for another way forward.
It would be helpful to me and possibly others to clarify what conduct, in what venues, by which editors, regarding what issues, should fall under an AE restriction. I didn’t see this as being directly related to the Pseudoscience ArbCom case. Also of help would be verification that any block marked as AE be treated as AE, even if the association seems distant.
But, once again, mea culpa here, and let me assure everyone that it definitely will not happen again. Dreadstar ☥ 06:30, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Evidence presented by BullRangifer
We can end this right now
I think Dreadstar's statement is sufficient to end this right now with no more drama. A mistake was made because of inexperience. That's forgivable.
Now all that is needed is a statement that will prevent such things from happening again. The proper process for unblocking an AE block should be followed. The determination of whether or not to call the initial block an "AE block" isn't anyone's business but the blocking admin. If they say it was, then all other admins must AGF and not unblock without following due process. If the blocking admin has abused the "AE block" template, that's an entirely different matter.
This could be the shortest AE case in history. There is no need for more drama. We just need a clear statement for the record.
PS: Ludwig2's block should be reinstated. Due process must still be followed in this case. -- Brangifer (talk) 07:18, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Evidence presented by Sandstein
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Dreadstar
Dreadstar undid a block which he knew was an arbitration enforcement action
At , Dreadstar unblocked Ludwigs2. A few lines above the unblock request I had previously added the {{uw-aeblock}} notice and a further message explaining the AE nature of the block. Dreadstar was therefore aware that he undid a block that was an arbitration enforcement action.
Dreadstar was aware of the rules governing reversals of AE actions and of the penalties for not abiding by them
The {{uw-aeblock}} notice on Ludwigs2's talk page contains a link to the ArbCom decision in the Trusilver case as well as its full operative text, which reads:
- "Administrators are prohibited from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page. Any administrator that overturns an enforcement action outside of these circumstances shall be subject to appropriate sanctions, up to and including desysopping, at the discretion of the Committee."
Additionally, my message linked to Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience#Discretionary sanctions, which reads in relevant part:
- "Appeals: Sanctions imposed under the provisions of this decision may be appealed to the imposing administrator, the appropriate administrators' noticeboard (currently Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration enforcement), or the Committee. Administrators are cautioned not to reverse such sanctions without familiarizing themselves with the full facts of the matter and engaging in extensive discussion and consensus-building at the administrators' noticeboard or another suitable on-wiki venue. The Committee will consider appropriate remedies including suspension or revocation of adminship in the event of violations."
Dreadstar's unblock message made reference to that decision, which indicates that Dreadstar read it. Dreadstar was therefore aware that he was not allowed to undo the AE block of Ludwigs2 except as provided for in the abovementioned decisions, and he was also aware of the potential consequences of disobeying the Committee's decisions.
Dreadstar's unblock clearly did not meet the requirements for reversing an arbitration enforcement action
- Requirements set forth in the Trusilver decision
The Trusilver decision, reproduced above, requires a "clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard" to undo an AE action. The three-hour WP:AN discussion that preceded the unblock, linked to here as it was at the time of the unblock, obviously did not meet these requirements. The following editors commented in between my announcement of the block and Dreadstar's unblock announcement:
- Supporting the block:
- Not clearly supporting or opposed to the block:
- WhatamIdoing, , does not address the block
- Hans Adler, , possibly critical of the block ("Sandstein has decided to shoot the messenger") but does not advocate overturning it. Hans Adler was at any rate involved in the underlying dispute.
- N419BH, , possibly supportive of the block ("WP:BOOMERANG strikes again")
- Opposed to the block:
- SlimVirgin,
- Short Brigade Harvester Boris, . Whether he is an uninvolved editor is open to discussion, as his contributions show that he is heavily engaged in disputes related to Misplaced Pages's coverage of science and fringe science topics.
- The Four Deuces,
- Xxanthippe, . Xxanthippe was involved in the underlying dispute.
Only two clearly uninvolved editors, therefore, opposed the block, while two others (three if one includes N419BH) supported it, and the whole discussion lasted only about three hours until Dreadstar unblocked Ludwigs2. No editor can argue in good faith that this constituted a "clear, substantial, and active consensus" to unblock Ludwigs2.
- Requirements set forth in the Pseudoscience decision
The Pseudoscience discretionary sanctions remedy, moreover, provides that
- "Administrators are cautioned not to reverse such sanctions without familiarizing themselves with the full facts of the matter and engaging in extensive discussion and consensus-building at the administrators' noticeboard or another suitable on-wiki venue" (my underlining).
Dreadstar did not do so. He did not only not wait for any consensus to emerge, as shown above, but he also made no attempt to engage me (as the blocking admin) in discussion, either onwiki or per e-mail, and he also did not engage in discussion with other editors, but simply announced his decision to unblock.
Moreover, Dreadstar's statement that he read the AN discussion as "no one in favor" of the block, which is at odds with the editors' actual comments as outlined above, indicates that Dreadstar did not even properly read the discussion and that he thereby failed to familiarize himself with the full facts of the matter, as he would have been required to.
By unblocking Ludwigs2, Dreadstar therefore did not comply with the Arbitration Committee's instructions, of which he was aware as shown above, in both the Trusilver and the Pseudoscience cases.
Dreadstar is responsible for the escalation of this matter to the Arbitration Committee
Even after his unblock, and after realizing (as he claims in his submission) his mistake, Dreadstar could have avoided the escalation of the problem by either
- reinstating the block, as he had been advised, or
- contacting me to seek my approval for the unblock or to propose another way to resolve the problem.
He did not do so. Instead, even after being advised of his mistake by another user, he replied:
- "It was a very bad block and in my opinion did not properly fall under the ArbCom findings. If this goes to ArbCom, so be it." , and
- "I was prepared for backlash when I did it."
Then he archived that whole talk page section, with the apparent intent of cutting off any continued discussion, and did not reply to continued messages from other users advising him of his mistake (, ).
Given that Dreadstar had thus repeatedly made clear that he was not going to undo his unblock, that he had made his decision in the full knowledge of its possible consequences, that he was not ready to discuss the matter further and that he was ready for escalation to ArbCom, any communication by me (after I came back online and read the above) would not have served any useful purpose. This left me only the possibility of a request for arbitration to remedy Dreadstar's disruption of the arbitration enforcement process.
I am not certain that Dreadstar's statement that "I waited to hear from Sandstein" can be taken at face value, because his actions (as outlined above) do not provide the slightest indication that he was interested in hearing from me - rather, the opposite.
Conclusion
The evidence above shows that Dreadstar wilfully and repeatedly held the Committee's decisions in contempt and failed to exercise the judgment expected of an administrator. Even in view of his apology, which appears honest but rather belated, some kind of tangible sanction against him is still, I think, appropriate (even if not necessarily an indefinite desysop). If no such sanctions are imposed, other administrators would not be deterred from likewise wilfully undoing AE actions or even Committee decisions, which would lead to more entirely avoidable cases of this sort, and which would also substantially undermine the authority and binding nature of the Arbitration Committee's decisions. Additionally, I predict that such a development would reduce further the willingness of administrators to engage in enforcement work.
Sandstein
My block of Ludwigs2 was within the ambit of discretionary sanctions
The discretionary sanctions remedy provides in relevant part (underlining and bracketed numbers added for reference):
- "Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict (defined as articles which relate to pseudoscience, broadly interpreted) if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior , or any normal editorial process. The sanctions imposed may include blocks of up to one year in length; bans from editing any page or set of pages within the area of conflict; bans on any editing related to the topic or its closely related topics; restrictions on reverts or other specified behaviors; or any other measures which the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project.
- Prior to any sanctions being imposed, the editor in question shall be given a warning with a link to this decision by an uninvolved administrator; and, where appropriate, should be counseled on specific steps that he or she can take to improve his or her editing in accordance with relevant policies and guidelines."
My block of Ludwigs2 complied with these requirements, in particular the following:
- "Uninvolved administrator": The remedy provides that "an administrator will be considered "uninvolved" if he or she is not engaged in a current, direct, personal conflict on the topic with the user receiving sanctions. Enforcing the provisions of this decision will not be considered to be participation in a dispute." I meet this requirement, as well as the more stringent requirements of WP:UNINVOLVED, because I have never been engaged in a conflict with Ludwigs2 as far as I recall. (It is possible that I did engage with him at some time in an administrative capacity, although I do not recall that either, and according to the his block log I have not previously blocked him).
- "Editor working in the area of conflict": The thread that triggered the block was a complaint by Ludwigs2 about editing on the Pseudoscience article. Ludwigs2 has also edited that article, most recently on 4 March, in what seems to be an edit war moreover that had to be stopped by full protection. He is therefore an editor working in the area of conflict.
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(Further evidence forthcoming.)
Arbitration enforcement in general
Arbitrators wish to review AE practices in general and the use of discretionary sanctions in particular. In my opinion, the AE system is generally well-established and a benefit to the project. No major changes to the rules are therefore required, except perhaps certain tweaks and clarifications (for instance, that discretionary sanctions do apply to conduct outside of topic-related articles). This section provides evidence for this assertion.
Discretionary sanctions are frequently used
In the 14 areas where they are authorized (Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions), discretionary sanctions are regularly imposed. With respect to the Arab-Israeli conflict alone, where they are available since January 2008, a very approximate count in the enforcement log indicates that about 150 such actions (including blocks enforcing previous sanctions) have been made.
Many of these disputes, if they could not have been handled with some degree of finality through the AE system, would have needed to be addressed on community dispute resolution fora or by the Committee, usually with much more drama and effort. Also, it can be assumed that the availability of a relatively fast and authoritative framework to handle misconduct has deterred established editors in the respective topic areas from much confrontational behavior. Without AE, therefore, the number of escalating disputes may well have been higher.
Discretionary sanctions are seldom overturned
Also using the Arab-Israeli conflict area as an example, according to the enforcement log, only 7 of the about 150 enforcement actions seem to have been changed by somebody else than the admin who made them, or as a result of an appeal discussion in a public forum:
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No AE sanction that I know of has been overturned by the Arbitration Committee or Jimbo Wales.
This indicates that most discretionary sanctions seem to be considered appropriate (or at least not clearly inappropriate) by the wider community and the Committee, in the cases where they are appealed at all.
Discretionary sanctions are subject to review by a well-established appeals system
Under the rules instituted by the Committee in the Trusilver case in March 2010 (as quoted at WP:AEBLOCK), users subject to discretionary sanctions can appeal to the sanctioning admin, to the committee or to a community noticeboard discussion (which requires a "a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors" to overturn). Since then, the template {{Arbitration enforcement appeal}} exists to provide structure to such appeal discussions. Its use is explained in the WP:AE edit notice and at WP:AEBLOCK, which is linked to from the AE block notice template, {{uw-aeblock}}. Users are therefore well-informed about the venues of appeal. The appeal template has been used 19 times in the AE archives. I am not aware of any appeal discussion derailing or of the result of any appeal discussion being contested.
Discretionary sanctions are generally accepted
I am not aware of any community discussion (such as a WP:RFC) that has expressed community discontent with the system of discretionary sanctions as instituted by the Arbitration Committee, or any particular aspect of it, such as the "Trusilver" restriction on undoing enforcement actions, the appeals framework or the enforcement practices of any administrator. As is to be expected, there have been expressions of discontent by users affected by individual enforcement actions and their friends.
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