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| == Fraudulent royals == | |||
| Are you planning on removing “fantasy” titles from all people you don’t regard as royalty? - ] (]) 18:51, 21 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :So many pretenders have been written up on Misplaced Pages as if they were regnant. I'm sure ] would make a fine king, crown prince, or whatever for Libya. But as of now, he is, as you must know, not king. We went through all this with the Habsburgs already. ] (]) 19:11, 21 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::I'm sorry but I amazed you get that impression! What because they use titles and are attributed this creates the impression they are ruling? I am well aware Crown Prince Mohammed is not King of Libya, calling him Crown Prince is hardly going to give the impression he is. Crown Prince or just Prince is how he refers to himself or others refer to him, I don't see what your problem is in according titles to people when its a very common practice. - ] (]) 19:28, 21 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::What exactly is a common practice? If the sources mention that the pretender claims this or that title, that's not a basis to present the claim as factual. With Nicholas, the sources hardly ever even mention the title that you are pushing. So you do not follow the "common practice" standard yourself. To say this guy is a crown prince is incorrect, common practice or not. Certainly the article can state that he is sometimes described as a crown prince. ] (]) 21:36, 21 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::::If you look for mentions of how Nicholas Romanovich you will see that he is commonly referred to as Prince Nicholas Romanoff/Romanov/Russia so why say ‘sometimes’ when in fact its more likely ‘overwhelmingly’ is more likely the case. Bizarrely the three articles you edited, Duke of Anjou, Prince Nicholas Romanovich and Crown Prince of Libya are three claimants where relatives dispute their rights to the headship of the those family’s so one has to be careful here. To me with Prince Louis Alphonse you adding to the article “He is sometimes referred to as Duke of Anjou” implies that his rival has a more legitimate right to that title. So one has to be careful about NPOV and probably also BLP issues. - ] (]) 22:04, 21 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::::'Fantasy' titles need to be clearly shown as such, and Kauffner's edit was correct. We don't call ] King Francis either. ] (]) 13:06, 22 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::You guys better move that article, Duke of Bavaria! More like Herr Herzog von Bayern surely! And tell where is any pretender called King? Certainly none discussed here so really I don't know what your on about. - ] (]) 15:26, 22 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::If you treat "crown prince", "prince of Russia", or "duke of Anjou" as titles of nobility, it implies that nobility can be bestowed by the pretender. This is the prerogative of a king. To ignore the fact that the authorities in each of countries don't accept any of this is to mislead the reader. ] (]) 16:26, 22 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| I think if you want to move royalty articles you should got through ] as they are most likely to be controversial and against ]. - ] (]) 14:39, 23 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :You are creating rules for me to follow? Go make rules for someone else. ] (]) 08:38, 25 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::I don't make rules but you have put ] through a RM. But its well established NCROY applies to non reigning and reigning royalty despite what you have claimed over at Prince Nicholas Romanovich's article. - ] (]) 13:30, 25 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::What if I name my cat king of Swaziland? Does NCROY apply? ] (]) 14:50, 25 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| == Speedy deletion contested: ] == | |||
| Hello Kauffner. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of ], a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''Not an uncontroversial move, use ] instead.''' Thank you. <font face="Forte">] <sup>]</sup></font> 01:47, 23 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :I really have no idea why anyone would object to this one. A fan of the pretender? Or possibly the fitness guru, although he isn't even listed? Anyway, I guess it's not my problem anymore. ] (]) 02:46, 23 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| == Vietnamese place-names == | |||
| IIRC, there wasn't a concensus to amputate diacritics from Vietnamese place-names. ] (]) 18:45, 29 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :Very well. I was following VNA. ] would suggest that some English-language source has to be followed. No such source uses diacritics for Vietnamese place names. You should comment on ]. A template claims that you need to use special software to read Vietnamese. A Chinese editor added it to numerous Vietnam-related articles recently. ] (]) 04:02, 30 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| == Roman Warm Period == | |||
| Thank you for greatly improving this article which I created. <span style="font-family:Arial,serif;border:1px solid Black;">]]</span> 09:51, 30 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| == Dispute resolution FYI == | |||
| Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "]". Thank you.<!--Template:AN-notice--> -- (I think Ken forgot to notify the other involved parties.) ] (]) 12:18, 3 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| == Prinz v. Hannover surname == | |||
| I see you put ''Debrett's peerage & baronetage 2008, p 117'' as the reference for Prince Ernst August's legal name (Prinz v. Hannover). However when I search the book nothing comes up for this and its not on his entry on page 117. What exactly does the book about his legal name being Prinz von Hannover? Thanks. - ] (]) 00:47, 8 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :I didn't make any claims about what his "legal name" is. ''Handbuch des Adels'' gives him as '''Ernst August Prinz v. Hannover''' (Vol. 100, p. 38, 1991). I assume that is his legal name. ] (]) 01:32, 8 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::You cited Debretts in the article. Handbuch lists the head with his title after his name, the king of Spain is listed as Juan Carlos Konig v Spanien. Nothing about names. - ] (]) 01:40, 8 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::His father is given as '''Ernst August Christian Georg Prinz v. Hannover, v. Großbritannien u. Irland, Herzog zu Braunschweig u. ....'''. I interpret this as name-comma-title format, which would mean "Prinz v. Hannover" is his surname. You know the naming law. It would be extraordinary if this family was granted an exception. ''Adels'' gives Juan Carlos as '''Juan Carlos I. Kg v. Spanien''', so not the same style at all. ] (]) 02:20, 8 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| == Invite == | |||
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