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== Battle of Chiraleş in 1068 == | |||
The Vlachs and the Pechenegs fought against Magyars in '''1068''' at Chiraleş, in Transilvania and finally lost the battle | |||
Русскій хронографъ, 2,Хронографъ Западно-Русской редакціи,in PSRL, XXII,2, Petrograd, 1914, p.211 | |||
V. Spinei, The Romanians and the Turkik nomads North of The Danube Delta from the Tenth to Mid Thirteen Century, Brill, 2009, p.118 | |||
Spinei showed the correct date of battle. The cited chronicle is not refused, is cited! |
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Didn't a tribe of Pechengs convert to Zoroastrianism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.5.11.64 (talk) 02:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Byzantine diplomat and scholar Michael Psellos in the 11th century: "They are more difficult to fight and harder to subdue than any other people . . .They wear no breastplates, greaves or helmets, and carry no shields or swords. Their only weapon and sole means of defence is the spear . . .They build no protective palisades or ditches around their camps. In one dense mass, encouraged by sheer desperation, they shout their thunderous war-cries and hurl themselves pell-mell upon their adversaries and push them back, pressing against themselves in solid blocks, like towers, then pursuing them and slaying them without mercy. If on the other hand the opposing force withstands their assault, they turn about and seek safety in flight (Norwich p. 335) . . ."
http://www.geocities.com/egfroth1/Pechenegs.htm
Message for Adam Bishop ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Pechenegs&diff=73043337&oldid=73000533. 1)Wusun is the old chinese pronunciation of Ashina aka 突厥 (Gokturks). 3)The Petchenegs appear after the Western Gokturk Khaganate collapsed. The Khazar rulers were from Ashina. Did my report condense these facts too much? I am sorry. Please re-write.Kaz 01:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
- Actually I thought I was reverting the note that "Bosniak" is related to "Pecheneg", which seems far-fetched, to say the least. Adam Bishop 01:57, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
- Not Pecheneg but Besenyo. That is a common Hungarian belief, though perhaps Bosnians could get upset about that. :-( Kaz 02:08, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
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Just to correct a definition: Max Wasmer's Bacanak does not mean brother in law. That particular word is used only by men. Because it actually means my wife's sister's husbandNedim Ardoğa (talk) 13:45, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Battle of Chiraleş in 1068
The Vlachs and the Pechenegs fought against Magyars in 1068 at Chiraleş, in Transilvania and finally lost the battle
Русскій хронографъ, 2,Хронографъ Западно-Русской редакціи,in PSRL, XXII,2, Petrograd, 1914, p.211
V. Spinei, The Romanians and the Turkik nomads North of The Danube Delta from the Tenth to Mid Thirteen Century, Brill, 2009, p.118
Spinei showed the correct date of battle. The cited chronicle is not refused, is cited!
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