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== Slander / Libel == |
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You have set "tags" accusing www.takingflight.us as being a "spamming site". Please see the discussion here. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:28, 6 February 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Be careful of your claims of "slander/libel" - those words have very specific meanings, and your accusations are misdirected. |
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:As to the subject, I've replied to the linked talkpage. --- ] <small>(] • ])</small> - 02:45, 6 February 2012 (UTC) |
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And I have answered you there as well. My wording was specific, and I agree it is serious. You even accused me of placing the links for the purpose of raising search engine ratings (I had to look that one up) Words are words, and meaning is meaning. You advise me to be careful, I advise you of the same.--] (]) 03:45, 6 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:Yes, back when you were adding the link, I accused you of ], because your actions met that definition. It may not have been your intent, but your actions were what I had based my warnings and comments upon. You have correctly pointed out that you stopped that behavior following my warnings, and at no point have I disputed that fact nor have I given any further warnings. You seem to be intent on ] here. --- ] <small>(] • ])</small> - 03:50, 6 February 2012 (UTC) |
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] lol.... okay... ''that'' we can agree on. Have a good night.--] (]) 04:01, 6 February 2012 (UTC) |
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===Fear of Flying, External Links, Forums=== |
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I have spent the last several days educating myself on the Misplaced Pages rules etc. You advised me that Forums are not allowed as acceptable External Links. You even advised/warned me of the following: |
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'''''Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Misplaced Pages, as you did to Pteromerhanophobia. It is considered spamming and Misplaced Pages is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Because Misplaced Pages uses nofollow tags, additions of links to Misplaced Pages will not alter search engine rankings. If you continue spamming, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 03:34, 4 February 2012 (UTC)''''' |
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However I found that is not the case. For example, please see. Look at the External Links on this page. Please understand my intent here is not to challenge you, but to understand what the "rules" are. If you still plan on "banning" me for adding an important site to this article, is there a "higher authority" other than you that can review this? Please advise. Thank you. --] (]) 00:57, 8 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:Barek is not responsible for deleting inappropriate links from every single article on Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages is a pretty big place. I am sure if you search widely enough you will find many examples of uneven enforcement of the external links policy. This is not a reason to spread improper links evenly across Misplaced Pages but rather to eliminate them where we find them. As has been done in this case. Rklawton has eliminated the improper forum link from the Anxiety article. As far as higher authority there is none. Misplaced Pages is a pretty decentralised editing environment. ] <small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">]</span></sup></small> 01:18, 8 February 2012 (UTC) |
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Thank you for your clear explanation. Someone also explained it to me this way And the "similar" link has been removed from that article. Thank you again. --] (]) 01:28, 8 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:You are very welcome. Thank you. ] <small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">]</span></sup></small> 01:41, 8 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::It looks like Dr.K has already answered the question. As mentioned above, Misplaced Pages is a pretty decentralized place. We have a large number of policies and guidelines that can be confusing at times, and due to the complexity we have some discussion boards where others in the community can discuss the application of those policies and guidelines if their application is disputed. In the case of external links, the main guideline can be found at ] (there are other applicable policies and guidelines, but that's the primary one), and the main discussion board for external link discussions is at ]. But, before posting there, be sure to review ] and understand the content guideline. --- ] <small>(] • ])</small> - 02:06, 8 February 2012 (UTC) |
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===Please see=== |
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As this involves a subject that you have recently been involved in, please see.... <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:25, 8 February 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The discussion has been closed - although everything I would have posted has already been mentioned by others, so I wouldn't have anything further to add to the discussion even if it were still open. --- ] <small>(] • ])</small> - 18:04, 8 February 2012 (UTC) |
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== MSU Interview == |
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Dear Barek, |
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My name is Jonathan Obar ], I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Misplaced Pages administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community ], were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students. |
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So a few things about the interviews: |
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* Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes. |
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* Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.) |
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* All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so. |
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* All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time. |
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* The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly. |
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Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name ] instead. |
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If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you. |
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Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you. |
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Sincerely, |
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Jonathan Obar --] (]) 15:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:Thank you for the invitation. I've responded both via email and on the designated page. --- ] <small>(] • ])</small> - 18:01, 8 February 2012 (UTC) |
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== ] == |
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If you get a chance, can you take a look at the IP vandalism that is being done to this article. I've been reverting on a daily basis, but the editor is insistant on adding unsourced contentious information about a living person.--] (]) 17:29, 8 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:I've protected the page and added it to my watchlist. Luckily I was online when you posted; but for times when I'm not, you may get faster response by reporting these types of issues to either ] or ]. --- ] <small>(] • ])</small> - 17:40, 8 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::Thank you!--] (]) 17:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:::Asher, FWIW, I've added it to my watchlist, and I will revert and issue warnings, and then take it (appropriately) to ] when warranted. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 18:21, 8 February 2012 (UTC) |
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== Reverted edit == |
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FYI, I reverted some miscreant and toxic babble. Best. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 02:52, 9 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. Yea, that was a known sockpuppet/vandal. See ] for background. --- ] <small>(] • ])</small> - 03:14, 9 February 2012 (UTC) |
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== University of Arkansas at Little Rock crime data == |
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I'm willing to discuss this matter and I'm glad you intervened when you did. |
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I'm being accused of negative bias, slander, undue weight, etc: panicky attempts by my detractors to put me in a bad light. |
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The facts (all sourced) are these: The University of Arkansas at Little Rock is having a serious, ongoing crime problem. The district that the university is located in is a very dangerous area. By putting these relevant, sourced facts into the Misplaced Pages article I believe that I am performing a public service by allowing uncensored access to correct information. |
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Unpleasant facts are still facts, regardless of how university boosters might feel about them. |
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I think the family of Patricia Guardado, the student murdered just off-campus last year, might agree with me on that. |
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I'm willing to add information about university and city efforts to clean up the district, but I can't work with people who think that deleting everything I type, as soon as I type it, is appropriate. |
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Thank you in advance for your assistance and your professionalism. ] (]) 02:45, 11 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:If you're wanting to discuss the article, the talk page at ] is the place for the discussion, not my user talk page. You can look through ] for an essay that describes a suggested process that works well for most users. |
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:It's good to have reliable sources for content; but there also needs to be community consensus that the content meets other content policies and guidelines. As mentioned at ], "''because other policies and guidelines also influence content, verifiability does not guarantee inclusion''". Again, the article talk page is the place to develop that consensus. --- ] <small>(] • ])</small> - 02:54, 11 February 2012 (UTC) |
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Thank you for bringing that to my attention. However, as to WP doctrine and standards, who decides what "policies and guidelines...influence content" as you noted? What are the policies and guidelines for a WP article on a public, state-funded university? Who decides, and how does one get that information? ] (]) 03:07, 11 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:Misplaced Pages is extremely decentralized; decisions are based on community consensus. For resolving content disputes, there are a set of tools described at ] which has some suggestions on how to resolve disputes. |
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:There are a large number of content policies and guidelines - the three core content policies are ], ], and ]; but there are others that the community has developed over time to support Misplaced Pages. --- ] <small>(] • ])</small> - 03:18, 11 February 2012 (UTC) |
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== Blu-ray == |
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Gdaay Barek. Spam like DJalses's where it was ...knowledgenow.com, and variations of ...now.com is all part of the spam that Beetstra's XLinkBot (talk · contribs) and COIBot (talk · contribs) is battling, and with Beetstra and I feeding it more and more data as we analyse this shite. If you start to see further patterns, have a look at some of the data in User:XLinkBot/revertlist and see what else might match. To note that Beetstra and I have been also working on this at m:spam blacklist. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:05, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm writing to figure out what was so bothersome about my edit of Nordic Walking. What instances were promotional and what where unsourced, because you reverted my edit back to FALSE information. Read through the history (of my edit) compare it to this one and contact me ASAP. The whole claim that "Nordic walking is defined as fitness walking with specially designed poles. It developed from an off-season ski-training activity known as ski walking, hill bounding or ski striding to become a way of exercising year-round. Ski walking and hill bounding with poles has been practiced for decades as dry land training for competitive Nordic skiers. Ski coaches saw the success of world class cross country skiers who used ski poles in the summer for ski walking and hill bounding and it became a staple of off-season Nordic ski training." is utterly false as there is concrete evidence that tells otherwise. Carefully read through the edit and instead of bluntly reverting it FIX IT to a more fitting state. The information provided is sufficient and sourced (if not tell me exactly what isn't). Further I can provide more sources to those health benefits, but they are benefits of Nordic Walking, not Exerstriding. Exerstriding and Nordic Walking are NOT the same thing.
KMuuli (talk) 07:51, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
