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February 15

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Bone Fish Ltd

I'd like some help with the article I'm creating based on facts about Bone Fish Ltd. The reviewer says my articl sounds more like an advert - please could someone tell me which particular parts sound like promotional material. That would be very helpful.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elliebee29 (talk • contribs) 11:40, 15 February 2012

Please read WP:REFB how to cite correctly. Now following a few examples which has to be cited:

"Bone Fish Ltd was the first ever white label dating platform provider available on the internet"

"The company maintains one of the strongest online affiliate programmes"

"has helped transform the dating sector into a multi-million-pound-a-year industry."

"Bone Fish Ltd offers 24 hour customer service" - which company isn't offering such a service?

The full "Methodology" section is somehow useless/advertising in my eyes...

The main problem is really that you don't added any inline references and that you included mostly press releases and directories and forums which are all primary sources or not reliable. Regards, mabdul 11:41, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Article Creation

Good Morning,

I have submitted this article for approval seven times now..

On the last request, it was denied do to lack of sources. I have spoke to a couple of reps in the "live chat help" and they said the sources were fine but the content was as advertisement. I have sense re-worded and took out a LOT of content. So, what is it needing now?

Thank you, -Adam

I apologize, I forgot to add the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Knight_Rifles

Thank you, -Adam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.147.132.66 (talk • contribs) 14:14, 15 February 2012‎

OK, let me explain the valid the newest decline reason:

Ref #1: primary source

Ref #2: a good ref (not really sure)

Ref #3: also a good ref (as it seems)

Ref #4: dead end

Ref #5: primary source

Ref #6: primary source

So far this isn't really enough: e.g. the full section 'The Knight Story' has a) only one ref and do this ref also support: "It began in a shop of a gunsmith known for miles around as a master craftsman, an inventor and a huntsman who had stalked the field for decades."? Regards, mabdul 14:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Looking....I'll comment here in just a minute. Nolelover 15:08, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Advertish content removed, a source or two added, and the article created. Nolelover 15:48, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Linux DM Multipath

I need help understanding what it is I'm lacking concerning references in my submission. I was dinged for "Lacks independent references" and "WP:NOTMANUAL", and have since added more references and taken out content that might be construed as a manual, and yet on my second submission the reviewer stated "Issues not adequately addressed from last decline". Using other entries as a guide , I'm not sure what is lacking or is to much like a manual for my entry. If this material is not suitable for Misplaced Pages, would it be suitable for WikiBooks? If so, what steps I do I take to move it over to WikiBooks? I have started a page there, but can't figure out how to submit it to be reviewed. Here is that link -- http://en.wikibooks.org/User_talk:3itrekker. Thank you for your help. I really hope that something about Linux DM Multipath can be found on either Misplaced Pages or WikiBooks very soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3itrekker (talk • contribs) 14:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I've cleaned up and created the article. Good job :) Nolelover 16:36, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Ali_Asghar_Khan_(Pakistani_politician)

I had submitted an article Ali Aghar Khan (pakistani Politician) http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Ali_Asghar_Khan_(Pakistani_politician) now there are four banners (messages) as its my first article please let me know what does it mean. Has this article been approved ?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mnskhan (talk • contribs) 18:20, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry for the confusion, but it has not. Honestly, I have no idea what happened, but your submssion looks good so I'm going to accept it and clean it up. Nolelover 18:38, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Need help understanding how to correct the article. I don't understand the objection of the reviewer

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Pro-Vas_Occlusion

I have now recieved the same objection of "irrelevance" twice. I thought I had addressed the issues sufficiently for those who needed the relevance of effective contraception explained. However, the article was rejected again for irrelevance.

I hope that no one would argure that contraception is not a relevant topic. The specific relevance of this new approach to vasectomy is based on the fact that existing methods of vasectomy have been shown to be sub-optimal.

To me its obvious that the topic is of relevance... I just don't get why someone would think it isn't.

Please clarify what the reviewers are looking for from me and I will be happy to add the necessary content, etc. to resolve their concern.

Regards, Dave Kawika (talk)dbattlesKawika (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:25, 15 February 2012 (UTC).

It's not that the topic is irrelevant, but you're trying to prove the wrong thing here. That there is a need for "effective contraception" is not what you need to explain. Your first paragraph and five references really aren't needed - notability isn't achieved by showing that there's a problem, and that your product is the solution, but that the product has been covered in reliable source. In fact, your submission would actually benefit if you removed the "background" and much of the "Significance of Pro-Vas Occlusion" section just focused on the Pro-Vas technique. Misplaced Pages doesn't care if you have the greatest product out there, or the worst one as long as its covered by reliable, independent sources. That's why Someguy1221 made the comment he did. You've been focusing on why Pro-Vas Occlusion is needed. That's not relevant. Just show us that it has been covered in the media etc; that's relevance to us.

You've got some good sources in there, but you need more independent ones. Take this one for example. It's exactly what you need (discussion of the company/product)... except that it's a press release. Hope this helps a bit. Nolelover 19:50, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Old Stone Chimney entry

I made edits to the entry yesterday, and am uncertain if it's in the pipeline for a new review before going live. I'm new to this, but hope to do more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisjpbflo (talk • contribs) 19:49, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

It is indeed in the queue. :) It should be reviewed within a day or two, and if declined you can always resubmit - take as much time doing so as you wish. Nolelover 19:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

neutered dog

Can a neutered dog get a female dog pregnant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.16.26.136 (talk) 19:56, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Not if properly done. See Neutering, and note that our reference desk is probably a better place to ask these types of questions. Nolelover 20:02, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

February 16

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Terror Transmission

So, I got rid of the YouTube links, even though I fail to see how referencing a video interview by linking to the video interview isn't "reliable." Also, I've used as many if not more credible references than many accepted podcast pages, but can't see how the one I created is somehow unacceptable, particularly by comparison. For instance...

http://en.wikipedia.org/Film_Sack

They use four references, all of which internal.

I hope I don't sound bitter in tone because I would honestly like help on this article/page. I am particularly confused by what appears to be inconsistency in accept/reject decisions, and I don't know what I am doing "wrong." Thanks in advance.

S666. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sinistar666 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

So firstly all sources need to be reliable. These would be publications with editorial oversight. This doesn't seem like too big of a problem for the article right now. The major problem, however, is that the sources must be independent. (See WP:VRS) Most of these are internal references, which do not help establish notability. So, the sources boil down to the Bravewords article, which is not about Terror Transmission, but the track.

Essentially, the problem is that due to the lack of verifiable, reliable sources that are not trivial mentions, it does not fulfill notability criteria.

And frankly, I don't think Film Sack is a properly referenced article. I'm going to leave a message on talk there.A412 (Talk * C) 01:48, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Pyarge Aagbittaite

please help me to get sources of importance because this is the first time one Kannada song crossing more than 2 lakes views within 15 days of release of song if why this kolavri song can be notable then this can be notable i have also provide news paper ref for supporting the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anaamikamathu (talk • contribs) 04:26, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Please write your submission in English...it's hard to tell how important this song/movie is because I can't read it. :( Nolelover 15:08, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

sir the article is in English language and you can read and understand the simple language thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anaamikamathu (talk • contribs) 07:49, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

The version Nolelover declined was as you can see here in English, but it included lyrics which shouldn't normally added in Misplaced Pages and the second decline wasn't because of the language, but because of notability (for films, see WP:NFILM which is clearly wrong, and should be declined as WP:NMUSIC) which means that the song is (in the eyes of Misplaced Pages) not notable enough to get it's own entry in this encyclopedia. Please check also the things i marked with and mabdul 13:28, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Facepalm I completely missed the lyrics header...sorry about that Anaamikamathu. Nolelover 13:40, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

My apologies for declining with the wrong rationale... --Bmusician 13:42, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

sir, it is understandable that even after reference Misplaced Pages need more support please help to get this song to be in Misplaced Pages because of its lyrics which is rare mixture of Kannada and Urdu language please publish this article in Misplaced Pages and let reader decide this article's importance

thank you anaamikamathu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anaamikamathu (talk • contribs) 03:39, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Paul Bojack

Hello, I received a message saying the article I created for Paul Bojack was not accepted.

However, Paul Bojack is notable because under your guidlines for Creative Professional -- 4 c) "the person's work has won significant critical attention". Mr Bojack's work has received strong reviews in major publications such as The New York Times, Variety, LA Weekly, Film Threat. This is significant critical attention -- The New York Times is the most famous newspaper in the world. Variety is the most important trade publication for movies and entertainment. In addition, the article includes references / links to these publications and reviews. These are reliable, independent publiched sources.

In other words, the notabilty and significance of the person is established (Mr. Bojack's work has won significant critical attention) and this notablity is supported by independent sources (the actual reviews from The New York Times, Variety etc). — Preceding unsigned comment added by SummerOlympic2012 (talk • contribs) 04:43, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I've created the article, however I strongly suggest you find more sources - anyone could still nominate the article for deletion in its present state and it would be a tough sell to keep it. Nolelover 15:15, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

can any one help me in this regards?

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Ustad_Badar_uz_Zaman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umerali2204 (talk • contribs) 07:11, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

You have blanked the page...are you done with it? Nolelover 15:18, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, because the article draft is also at the talkpage at Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Ustad Badar uz Zaman. mabdul 13:41, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Questions

what is polarization? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.169.164.37 (talk) 07:25, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

what is permittivity? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.169.164.37 (talk) 07:28, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Try asking at the reference desk. Nolelover 15:18, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Spyder (software)

I don't understand the resistance behind allowing awesome open source software projects described on Misplaced Pages. Given the arguments against this article I could as well put down the Mediawiki info. Can the awesomeness of FOSS projects be judged by experts in open source/software development? Requiring FOSS to be published in international magazines not by authors/contributors instead of technical evaluation of the features/completeness/popularity and scope first is kind of very-very strange. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Techtonik (talk • contribs) 08:02, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay..."International news" outlets was a bit of an exaggeration. The point is that notability is demonstrated by significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. Misplaced Pages and the spyderlib wiki are not reliable sources, because they are open projects, and neither are blogs. The review in Techworld is exactly what you need....but you only have one. Add more reviews of that type, and resubmit. Nolelover 15:24, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Eckstein, Karl

Hi! I need your help badly. Please, tell me how to add more info about a person? I'd like to add the birth day/month, country, citizenship etc.(I didn't find the template). This info is usually on the right side under a photo. And I also have problems with describing this photo. I managed only to insert it. Please, help. Thanks a lot. Lerysik (talk) 08:25, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

What you are looking for is called an "infobox". We have many kinds, but you one for people is called {{infobox person}}. If you click that link and scroll down, you'll see the basic template with the blank parameters. Copy that to your article and fill in the parameters.

Thanks a lot!)) I've done necessary changes and hope this time everything will be OK)) Will you check it, please?))Lerysik (talk) 09:06, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Comments left at the submission. Nolelover 19:17, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/UK Hand Knitting Association

Morning. I need some help with the above article. The Association (UKHKA), to which this article refers, used to be called the British Hand Knitting Confederation (BHKC). There is already a Wiki for the British Hand Knitting Association but this should be changed due to the name change. So I'm trying to generate a new article under the current name of the association without much luck.

I initially generated the article in much the same format as the original but with a bit of additional information from the UKHKA website. That was rejected for not having any citations. The original BHKC doesn't have any either so I assume the rules have changed since that was put on.

So I added some citations but now it's been rejected because it 'reads more like an advert' and also that there should be citations from independent, etc sources and "not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed"

Geez, I thought this would be so easy for my first dabble at Wiki!

So, I need a little help.

With regards to it 'reading like an advert', I'm a bit stumped with this but I'll go back over the text anyway. Not sure which bits are like an advert but I'll re-write in a different style in any case.

But I am a bit stumped with the citations and the "materials produced by the creator of the subject". I hunted around on the internet and found various articles that other organisations had written about the Assoc - universities, the Guardian, etc - mainly about the Awards that the association runs each year. So these aren't 'materials produced by the creator of the subject' but articles written by organisations about the awards, etc. So I'm a bit stumped as to what is needed here.

Thankyou for any assistance you can provide :-)

Pauliebee (talk) 10:31, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I've actually just moved British Hand Knitting Confederation to UK Hand Knitting Association, so now you can just work on it there instead of using Articles for Creation. :) There's no reason to have two articles on the same company. As you mention though, it doesn't have any sources so the odds that someone would nominate it for deletion go up dramatically. Now, I glanced though the sources used in your submission, and none of them really stand out. :( Yes, most of them talked about what the association was doing, but that doesn't really help you if they don't talk about the association itself. There's a big difference here - require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, and I don't see that here. Nolelover 15:49, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

cable trays

Difference between FRP AND GRP CABLE trays?

where do we use frp and where do we use grp? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.97.72.253 (talk) 12:05, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Have you tried Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37--Hallows AG (talk) 12:17, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Urgent need to get an article published

Hi!

Im in urgent need to get this article published. Is there any way to get it published first with a disclaimer on top based on the reviewer comment? As long as the article is up for public viewing and reachable when being search. Really need to get this up and off my hand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Government_Transformation_Programme_(GTP)_Malaysia

Sorry, but that's not the way Misplaced Pages works. We are not an advertising agency for publishing your programmes. Also, I found a copyright violation in there, which really doesn't make me feel good about the rest of the submission. Nolelover 15:55, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Review http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Ustad_Badar_uz_Zaman

Some one please accept it Umerali2204 (talk) 12:14, 16 February 2012 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Umerali2204 (talk • contribs) 12:07, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

The article needs more additional sources, especially the "Awards" section. Cheers, Hallows AG (talk) 12:16, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Spectre R45

This is a pathetic excuse for not releasing an article...

"The proposed article does not have sufficient content to require an article of its own, but it could be merged into the existing article at Spectre R42. Since anyone can edit Misplaced Pages, you are welcome to add that information yourself. Thank you."

Need more information about what is "Sufficient" content for an article. In time people will see this article and update it themselves. It's kind of the point of having wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stew2000 (talk • contribs) 12:39, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

It's an updated prototype of an existing car and only one was built (except for the show model)? With only one source, I'm afraid I'd have to agree with the reviewer, unless you can find more sources about the R45. Nolelover 16:00, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

It's a very interesting problem.
To me, even though the R45 is an updated version it is different to the R42.
I could merge it into the R42's article. however it could possibly make more sense to create a new article called Spectre Cars Ltd which would highlight the history of the company and have a proper place for both the R42 and R45.
--Stew2000 (talk) 20:03, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
BTW. You should delete this page because of wiki logic: Porsche_969
--Stew2000 (talk) 20:36, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

It may be completely different, but with only one source you aren't gonna convince many editors. :( Merging is probably the best. Also, I have merged the Porsche article. Nolelover 01:13, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Ashtar Alkhirsan

Hello Misplaced Pages,

Could you let us know which facts you need verified in the 'Ashtar Al-khirsan' biography,

Many thanks,

Abdul Mousawi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mosfilm12 (talk • contribs) 14:56, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

IMDB is not considered a reliable source as the content is user-generated. In order for the article to be properly sourced, and for the subject to demonstrate it meets the guidelines of notability it needs citations which are third-party, and independent of the subject. Have a look at Misplaced Pages:Identifying reliable sources. Preferably each fact in the article should be followed by an inline citation, see Misplaced Pages:Referencing for beginners. France3470 (talk) 15:31, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/List of False Prophets and Teachers

I asked several moderators about this article, and they advised me that the article would not be accepted in its current form. I am curious to know whether this would possibly be accepted:

I would revise this article and details to form the article as "A List of Anti-Christian Quotes"?

The article would contain only quotes which explicitly say something contradictory to the Christian faith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmfriess (talk • contribs) 16:20, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but Misplaced Pages is not for soapboxing, original research or indiscriminate collections of information. I don't think that topic would ever be accepted. Nolelover 16:45, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I think this article has a potential to get accepted, but please read WP:REFB how to cite correctly and find a reference for every person! mabdul 10:47, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Mini Rover ROV

article for review "mini rover rov" was declined. article was edited and submitted for new review and declined because there had been "no changes".

i followed the instructions on the page that stated: "When the submission is ready to be re-submitted, click here and press the Save page button to request a new review". i clicked on "click here" and the page that displayed did not show the edits i had made.

it displayed only the text below:

Please don't change anything and press save

SUBST:submit

so, i didn't change anything and pressed save. no edits were saved. what did i do wrong? i have submitted the article again by clicking "save page" and not clicking "click here" as instructed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geraldtjr (talk • contribs) 16:54, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Hmm...that's odd. I'm not sure what's going on there, but here's another way. Edit the page (you can click that link to go directly there) and add {{subst:submit}} to the top. That should do the trick. Nolelover 17:09, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/afranet

Hi why is this page not accepted: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/afranet

1- How can the first IT company in iran in the tehran stock exchange with a market value of 20 million USD not be important

2- are business week, tehran stock exchange and tehran time not independent, not credible references! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.96.180.245 (talk) 17:03, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, those are all reliable sources, but not they way used here. First, the Tehran Times is an advertisement. The stock exchange doesn't help establish notability (just because it has a listing doesn't make it notable, and the Business Week listing is in the same vein....it look like a directory listing, which again, doesn't establish notability. Nolelover 17:14, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Why would you say that is an advertisement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.96.180.245 (talk) 17:23, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Because it looks like, is written like and is signed like an advertisement. Nolelover 17:28, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

The main problem is that even if we count that newspaper as reliable/third party (what i do) - it is simply not enough! One good reference, but we need more! mabdul 10:51, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/White Nelson Diehl Evans LLP

what is the right age for a young person to began dating and why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.157.21.4 (talk) 18:25, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Depends on what 'dating' means to them. Also note that this is not the place to be asking that question...perhaps you can try the reference desk? Nolelover 18:31, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Schaffer-Vega Diversity System

Dear Help desk, I would like to add a few images to the article, a photo of an original Schaffer-Vega Diversity System, an advertising from a music magazine in the late 70s and a collection of scanned music magazine articles from the 70s, three images in total, available here: http://www.banane.at/svds-wikipedia/ . I just don't have adequate access rights for this (yet), but the images are needed to complete the article before I submit it for review again. Thank you, Franz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ffarklas-at (talk • contribs) 18:27, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

You can always upload the images later, Misplaced Pages has no deadline!. Needless to say, lack of images isn't something a submission would ever be declined for. joe•roe 18:57, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages:Sandbox

Is there a page that explains how I can edit equations?????? HELP!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy Holland2 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Are you looking for Help:Displaying a formula? A412 (Talk * C) 23:30, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

User:Andy Holland2/sandbox

mmh, maybe see Help:Math. Regards, mabdul 10:52, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Donald MacPherson

Hello I put in a request to change the username of Vancouverdrugman to Vancouverpolicymaker yesterday morning. I am not sure what the status of the change is...I can not login under that username. Does that mean that the change request has been denied?

Also, I have four indpendent reliable website links that back up the information stated on Donald MacPherson's wiki page. Why are they being rejected?

Thank you Jasmine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vancouverdrugman (talk • contribs) 23:55, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the first one. The submission, however:

1. Not an independent source. See WP:VRS
2. This doesn't help show his notability. Notability is not inherited.
3. Just because he is listed does not mean he is notable. See the guidelines on notability for academics.
4. That is the Amazon listing for his book. How does this show his notability.

What would be better sources would be evidence that he fulfills one of the criteria at WP:GNG, WP:BIO, or WP:PROF. A412 (Talk * C) 00:01, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

• Regarding your Name Change. Please check WP:CHUS. :- ) DCS 00:39, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

February 17

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Holistic Management International (HMI)

I am having trouble getting my page approved: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Holistic_Management_International_%28HMI%29

I went into the live chat and the only thing they said is wrong was a link at the very beginning. I removed that. What else needs to be done? Live chat said nothing else.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hminternational (talk • contribs) 02:48, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

 Done  I touched it up a bit.  Otherwise, looks good to me, and I'm in Albuquerque. :- ) DCS 03:13, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Template:Dcshank/Red flagYou have to change your user name, however. Notice is on your talk page. :- ) DCS 03:30, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Plankton Icke and Tina Turner David City Limits

I believe there is sufficient content for this page to require an article of its own. The pages for The E.L.F.'s EPs were approved (with less content), yet the musicians debut album (with more content) has been rejected. Judging by the content of their profile page, I believe the reviewer has a strong bias opinion of certain music and therefore shouldn't be reviewing this article. The only issue that was brought to my attention, was that the article couldn't be published due to lack of footnotes. This has since been rectified, so I'm not quite sure what the problem is. Can you please advise or assist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghostpatrol86 (talk • contribs) 07:30, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Generally, an album or other recording must have its own notability. This means it must be supported by independent sources as per the general notability guideline. The only source on the page is the bandcamp page, this is not an independent source and only verifies existence. See why notability is not inherited and the notability guidelines for albums. I have put merge requests onto the other two EP pages, as they are little more than track listings. A412 (Talk * C) 15:23, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Diaman Ratio

I wrote a Reference link into the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cak81 (talk • contribs) 11:59, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

That's a great start, but please note that an article with only one source is not likely to be kept. Nolelover 19:47, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Zelda Kaplan

This article is NO LONGER NECESSARY as there now is a[REDACTED] article on Zelda Kaplan. Thus please delete this article for creation. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.175.77.205 (talk) 17:39, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Done. A412 (Talk * C) 18:16, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Muro-ball

Misplaced Pages-

I recently submitted an article for Wiki that was rejected due to its lack of importance or significance of the subject. I would argue that racquetball, cricket and other similar sports are not significant nor do they affect human life in a way that it must be a staple of life or worthy of being included in Wiki. On a side not, I do not have any published works to reference etc... because it was a game recently invented. So there is not literature or research on the sport. But my family and I are gathering a small following that could end up as big as racquetball, handball or other similar games. I submitted this article because I am trying to get the word out to the American population and others because the more people that start playing, the more notoriety it will get. Then, I will be able to site works etc... See where I am going? I am not sure when the racquetball article was submitted and approved but the game has been around for many years and probably only recently was an article approved. I ask that you please accept this article so that I may gather a following and make this sport a good one. My brother submitted an article in our local newspaper. Would that help to achieve a successful submission?

Sincerely,

Antonio Mazza — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giankai1994 (talk • contribs) 18:05, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

The problem is that one of the tenets of Misplaced Pages is verifiability. Without reliable, verifiable sources, the article cannot be accepted. This is required to show notability. If the sport does become popular and it is written about by secondary sources, feel free to resubmit. However, Misplaced Pages is not a primary source and thus cannot become an original publisher of information as it would qualify as original research. A412 (Talk * C) 18:23, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

When it's "as big as racquetball" it will be notable. Until then, Misplaced Pages isn't a source of free publicity. joe•roe 19:28, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/John Volken

The page for John Volken forwards to United Furniture Warehouse, which he is no longer the CEO of and is receiving much notable press attention for what he is currently doing. How do I go about getting the John Volken page published with info about his life rather than info about United Furniture Warehouse? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Courtneywh (talk • contribs) 00:53, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Working on it....article will be created shortly. Nolelover 01:58, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Article was created, although I think you already know that. Nolelover 00:23, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

February 18

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Unlimited Production Music (UPM)

I created this UPM article to be identical to Oh No Oh My Rock Bank found here at http://en.wikipedia.org/Oh_No_Oh_My. Please explain to me the difference in this UPM article and the Oh No Oh My article. I have the SAME number of References and the type of information is formatted the same.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ewilliams60083 (talk • contribs) 05:03, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

1. Thanks for bringing the Oh No Oh My article to my attention.  I do not believe it meets notability requirements and should probably be improved or deleted.
2. As to the number of references, the only reference in your article that mentions UPN is the one from the Sun Times.
3. Oh No Oh My is a music group.  UPN is a company, though not important at this time, they have different notability requirements.  Please see WP:ORG and WP:NMUSIC.

Thanks for your efforts. :- ) DCS 03:23, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/The Women's Wilderness Institute

I cannot find my article to edit. Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JulieP2 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Assuming you're trying to write an article about the listed topic:

1. Navigate to the article.
2. Click the "edit" button on top of the article.
3. Type in the box, press "save page".
4. Add {{AFC submission}} when you're done.

If you want to make a new article, use the article wizard instead. If you need more help, try the main help desk. A412 (Talk • C) 05:24, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

• You have accidentally created two different articles one is Women's Wilderness Institute and one is The Women's Wilderness Institute which is blank.  If you want to change the name, you can do so by moving the article to the new name, but you will have to have the other article deleted first by adding {{db-author}} in its text.  If you have any problems, leave another note here.  :- ) DCS 03:43, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

February 19

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Prolisky-Kyiv

Hi,

thank you for the feedback.

The reviewer wrote:

"should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. "

none of 5 references given is related in any way to myself. all these 5 are independent references. how many references are required for such a short article? What are specific changes required? It would be useful to have some specific points, applied specifically to the article written, rather than general comments on the basis of which 50% of articles in Misplaced Pages can be declined.

I look very much forward to further details on this.

Thank you very much, Vadym — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vadym.bereza (talk • contribs) 01:20, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually, the problem was that it reads like an advertisement. I'll look at and fix it in about 10 minutes. A412 (Talk • C) 03:36, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Kōwakamai

I want to create a new Article in the English Misplaced Pages. The new article is a translation of an existing page in the Japanese Language Misplaced Pages page. Isn't it sufficient enough to site the Japanese page in the reference section with out repeatedly making inline citations referencing the Japanese language page?

Or, is there a special way to go about adding translated articles from foreign language Misplaced Pages pages?

Thank you for your time~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben Grafstrom (talk • contribs) 04:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

No, there is not a method to do that. The references must be manually added into the inline references. A412 (Talk • C) 04:11, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

You need to import the available references on the Japanese article to the English article, or find other references. You cannot cite Japanese Misplaced Pages as a source. Best, CharlieEchoTango (contact) 09:31, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Dr. George Lisle - The Pioneer

Dear Sirs, This submission is to be added to the Misplaced Pages article for Chetopa, Kansas. George Lisle was the founder of Chetopa and this story supports the start of that city. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soonermedia (talk • contribs) 05:57, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Your article needs to have complete citations, the Tulsa World and Chetopa Advance are not enough information to verify what is written. Please see WP:REFB  :- ) DCS 08:35, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Citations

How do I create citations correctly?

Thanks

Lee — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leebee90 (talk • contribs) 10:47, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Have you tried reading Referencing for beginners (particularly the section on refToolbar)? If there's anything on that page you don't get, feel free to ask. wctaiwan (talk) 12:21, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/CarDVDseller Electronics Inc.

edit for about 4 time, how to do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theronnie811 (talk • contribs) 12:11, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Is the company notable? We can only have articles on subjects are notable—that is, they meet the criteria explained at WP:VRS.

• If the company is not notable, it is likely that even if you try to create an article, it'd very quickly be deleted. In this case, the best suggestion we can offer is usually to just work on other things for now.
• If it is notable , you need to show us by citing multiple sources that are independent (not connected to the company) and reliable (newspaper / magazine articles, usually. Baidu Baike and Misplaced Pages are not reliable, because anyone can edit them).

If you need anything else, just ask. wctaiwan (talk) 12:18, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Login problems

I am sorry but when I edited my submission The system reported that I had not logged in. How do I log in? This is not exactly made easy. Please adviser so that that I can update my modifications — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.232.86 (talk) 20:58, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Please go to Special:UserLogin (or click the "login/create account" button in the top right) and enter your username and password. Nolelover 21:51, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Une saison en enfer (album)

Hi, I don't know what to do about the reviewer suggestions.

Léo Ferré is one of the greatest French singer-songwriters of all times, it seemed worthy to mo to create an article about a piece of his work (the last one), as you do for every other great musician.

Furthermore, Arthur Rimbaud is not an obscure poet. To get "the importance or significance of the subject", you can check the Arthur Rimbaud's page or the Une saison en enfer one. As[REDACTED] shows, this poet influenced moderns singers-songwriters like Bob Dylan or Patti Smith. So it is interesting in an encyclopedia to show what kind of influence he allthough had on a natural French-spoken artist. Is there something more to say?

And actually I gave a published source "reliable and independent" (is it because it's in French that it is not ok?). So, what can we do?

Thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.224.28.42 (talk) 22:25, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi,

You may want to have a look at WP:NALBUMS regarding the notability of albums.  Notability in not inherited, the album by itself must be notable.  If the sources are reliable and independent and in French, there should not be a problem.  If they are not independent and reliable, the language does not matter.  :- ) DCS 23:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Well, you say that he influenced Dylan and Smith...that's great, but what about this album? Remember that just because an artist has an article doesn't mean that every one of their albums needs one, although they usually do. So what's important about this specific album? If you can explain that (and yes, more sources would definitely help) you'll have a much better shot at this being accepted. Nolelover 23:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

(French speaker here), definitely notable, plenty of GNG to go around. CharlieEchoTango (contact) 23:07, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Fantastic. I was in the process of looking for a French speaker to search; I'll keep you in mind for future projects ;) Nolelover 23:10, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Noteworthy vs. Not

Hi, I'd like to inquire what the difference is between these 2 submissions. Noteworthy vs. not http://en.wikipedia.org/Devon_Soltendieck (noteworthy) http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Marc_Andrew (not) Both individuals are media figures. Their accomplishments are parallel, the later, if not more. Please let me know the difference between these 2 articles, as it may help understand the reason it was declined. Thanks for your time, Barb — Preceding unsigned comment added by BarbSlade (talk • contribs) 00:27, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Articles are not compared to each other for apparent noteworthiness; the issue here is one of sources cited. The Devon Soltendieck cites three reliable third party sources : the Toronto Star, the Edmonton Journal, and the Ottawa Citizen. Your submission cites only one such source, the Montreal Gazette, and it is not third-party in this case. CharlieEchoTango (contact) 00:37, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

February 20

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Pie

There is nothing wrong with this article in my view. This magazine is published in Chapters and this is a reference to the company. What is the issue specifically? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WM324AHI (talk • contribs) 02:02, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi,

Actually the article is not bad compared to many other.  I'm not sure what the reviewer found when they checked your references, but I found that one was a "Page Not Found", one was a blank page, and the third was a blog, which is not considered a reliable source.  The two bad links may be a simple fix, or maybe I have a problem.

Thanks for you efforts,  :- ) DCS 05:08, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Auslogics Disk Defrag

Hello, I wrote an article, which was declined by reviewer Bmusician. My message on Bmusician's talk page has been ignored since I posted it there on February 16, so I'm seeking help from other editors. Could someone please tell me how I can make my article better so it can be included in Misplaced Pages? Here is a link to my message on the reviewer's talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Bmusician#Declined_article_on_Auslogics_Disk_Defrag and this is where you can find my article: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Auslogics_Disk_Defrag I thank you very much in advance for your response and any guidance you can give me. Sincerely, TaraSwimms (talk) 08:22, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Pending a technicality, although I'm planning on accepting. Thanks for your submission. :) Nolelover 16:13, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Darius Rafat

I would like to ask why the reviewer is declining this article all the time. The subject/person is a notable musician, producer and tv personality for obvious reasons. The sources and published material about him are independent and reliable and his article in the german Misplaced Pages ( http://de.wikipedia.org/Darius_Rafat) is online for many years. Looking forward hearing from you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.24.53.33 (talk) 10:43, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Alright...just looking through your sources...they are definitely not independent and reliable. You've got multiple primary sources, plus a press release and other that don't really discuss Rafat in any detail. The stuff in "weblinks" isn't much better...more press releases, reliable sources, and brief mentions. I'm sorry, but you really don't have a single source that really stands out. :( Nolelover 17:05, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi There, i received your answer. Thanks for that, but I would kindly ask you to check again on the sources and weblinks as they are definitely showing independent and reliable publications about the subject and discussing the person explicitly. However, we added 2 more independent published sources as marked. Maybe its not quite clear for you as most of it is in german language. For example IMDB (Internet Movie Data Base), the german , Aids Gala (this one especially, a whole independent article) Article are all independent publications about the person. Additional to that his work references are more of a proof and a reliable source of his work in international music business. It would be great if you can go through it once again and then accept it. Once again, the german Misplaced Pages Article (http://de.wikipedia.org/Darius_Rafat) was also accepted and published already years ago. Looking forward hearing from you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.24.53.33 (talk) 12:11, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

• Ref #1 is a primary source. It's probably reliable, as far at that goes, but since it is directly affiliated with Rafat is doesn't help to establish notability.
• Ref #2 is also decently reliable, but there is absolutely no significant detail of Rafat. He is one name on a credit list, and that's all.
• Ref #3 is an e-card. Yes, it has his name, and even a short bio, but that is not what we want to see as far as reliable sources go.
• Ref #4 is a press release, and hence not independent.
• Ref #5 is from a venue he played at. Again, not independent.
• Ref #6 has less then one sentence on Rafat.
• Ref #7 appears to be a blog.
• Ref #8 is another press release.

I'll briefly run through the external links. IMDb is user-submitted, and not considered reliable here on WP. The next two are just lists, with his name on them. The next two had one sentence or less on Rafat, and on the last (which might be another press release) I hit a paywall. Now do you understand what I meant when I said that none of your sources really stood out? I'm sorry, but that's still the case. Please read WP:VRS (it's extremely short) - can you find any sources that would fit that bill? Nolelover 20:20, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi, we just read your answer and we really all have to disagree with you. You have so many different sources and proofs now, why are you making it so complicated? come on... And your interpretations about Wikipedias WK VRS list is quite arguable. Why are press releases from different typs of entertainment biz writers or music journalists not independent? IMDB is not only user-based, but is used by all major film, tv and media productions itself who list their cast and crew on the Internet Movie Data Base. You can not get into IMDB if its not reliable or if the topic which is listed hasn't been actually on air or published! Its not working like that. So, we really are interested what you would like to see as a source that "stands out" more?? Why is the official list of composers in Germany not reliable and independent? Why is all the information you have got in front of you from different tv shows, music productions, Producing credits, songwriting credits, press releases and your own accepted german Misplaced Pages article etc not reliable?? So, that makes no sense, right? And again, why is our subject/ person we are trying on now for the 7th time now already accepted and published in[REDACTED] the german version?? Could you please comment on that and explain what exactly your problem is......Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.24.53.33 (talk) 22:51, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay, so...

1. Firstly, if you have a problem with WP:VRS, go onto its talk page, not here.
2. As far as I can see, the press releases are from venues, companies, or representatives connected with him.
3. Actually, IMDB is largely user-submitted, thus we do not know if it is a reliable source. (It would be like citing Misplaced Pages itself as a source and calling it reliable)
4. Something that stands out would be an article or review from a completely independent (meaning no venues he's been at, or Fat Music London, or his representatives) reliable source (meaning no IMDB, Misplaced Pages, blogs, etc.). Stuff that could be in this category would be newspapers, magazines, web aggregrates (reliable ones), and so on.
5. Credits are not a source showing notability, press releases are not independent.
6. English Misplaced Pages is a separate project from German Misplaced Pages. Frankly, we don't care too much about what they do there.
7. The problem is the sourcing, as has been detailed by Nolelover and me. A412 (Talk * C) 23:34, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Let me try to be as clear and un-complicated as possible. Articles require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. For one reason or another, none of your sources fulfill those criteria. Other then that, A412 nails it, and I can back up his statement that the German Misplaced Pages doesn't matter here. If they have an article, great. That doesn't require us to have one here. Furthermore, if you can't understand how a press release is not independent, or what "significant coverage" means, then I really don't think we can help you. Nolelover 01:20, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, wow!

we don't have a problem with WP:VRS, the thing is though that we clearly fulfill your criteria. Very simple.

Do you really think saying "Frankly, we don't care too much about what they do there" speaks very well for someone is who working at a free, open-minded and international Enclyclopedic Organisation who is run through donations? Are you serious?

Obviously your own opinion about how to see or interpret things is more important than the simple fact of published and proven material which is out in the WWW for everybody to see. EVEN IN YOUR OWN WEBSITE! Its not about you or how you see things but what actually is true and reliable. Its about whats notable and interesting for the public. If you don't believe or it still isnt clear to you yet then take a minute and google the name and subject we are trying to get an english version for. What about that?

Regarding your point 4: The press releases are exactly what you are asking us for: there are totally independent, because its clearly NOT generated either by the business or organization it is written about, or by a business or person hired by or affiliated with the organization. (nobody knows the writers or journalists), they were written and published independently because of the various happening tv shows, performances, involvements in music etc. They were written and published because our subject/ person is a known entertainment figure and was the host and producer of the shows we are citing or the composer of the biggest saturday night show in europe viewed by 10 million people. What is so difficult to understand about it and why isn't it independent to you? That still makes no sense.

The thing is: we are talking about an international music producer with a proven track record all over, who is widely responsible for a lot of famous artists to make money and to find alternative revenue streams in this difficult times of music business with unpaid downloads, copyright fraud etc through his companies brand entertainment and partnerships deals and you still are making our Article dependent on what you think is not quite fulfilling in some format.

Well, if the written above doesn't bother you we think it would be only fair if you show this article, our sources, references and our dialogs to your head of staff and to at least 5 of your collegues where at least one of them knows german language and can really check and see the reliability to get a independent and proper feedback from more then just yourself or one more colleague.

Looking forward — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.24.53.33 (talk) 10:33, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I was asked by Nolelover to give a second opinion, and I have to say I agree with those who have attempted to address this issue here. It's nothing to do with whether individual editors have any sympathy for your cause—they're just following established guidelines that have been established through consensus. We require independent sources for articles, because without them, Misplaced Pages risks becoming a directory for every person trying to get a publicity boost. Open up Misplaced Pages, and instead of some informative piece about the Meermin slave mutiny, you'd instead see hundreds of articles providing "information" about "up-and-coming" businesses and artists. That's not what we're here to do.

To address your point, press releases are not independent—of the two you cited, one is published by a PR agency and the other by the label who published Rafat's albums. Both are in some way connected to Rafat, so neither is independent. Furthermore, Misplaced Pages is not reliable. Anyone can edit Misplaced Pages articles, so they are not evidence of notability. You argue that Darius Rafat is an established and notable producer. To show that, you need to give us independent sources—we can't just rely on your word for it.

Basically, if you can find significant coverage in multiple sources that are unambiguously independent and reliable—newspaper articles and articles in music magazines are where people commonly look (I tried looking on Google and couldn't find much), then there would be no problem with using those sources to write an article. But what you have right now simply isn't enough, sorry. wctaiwan (talk) 16:20, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks wctaiwan. 176, I'm sorry you feel as you do. Seriously, I am. I've been trying to give you the best advice I can, because I do think that you have the foundation of a good article here. Unfortunately, I know from experience that if this was created, it would almost certainly be deleted at WP:Articles for deletion. I can't go get five more editors to look at this, but if you would like to go and ask some yourself to come here and look at this, that would be fine. I don't have a "head of staff" - we're all volunteers. If there's anything else I can do, let me know. Nolelover 16:36, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to try and rewrite this article to end this argument. He might be notable, who knows? Anybody here at AFC read German, by the way?A412 (Talk • C) 19:27, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Mabdul  :- ) DCS 03:59, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey there, alright, we totally appreciate and respect your feedback. Well, let us find us some more (hopefully) reliable sources for you to sort this out and maybe we then can end this dialogue and all be happy about the new english Misplaced Pages version of the already existing german article. If the mentioned re-written version of you fits well and is suitable, thats fine with us, even better. Best regards.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.24.53.33 (talk) 00:17, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi there, we now saw that the article was re-structured and rewritten by you and to us it looks great. We are happy with it.

Regarding these 2 little requested citations for his marriage and residence and his work being featured in different countries, they are no independent sources for that as this confidential information by his management we have contact to. But it quite clear that the information is true as we know it for sure and his official contact address is London. We are not able to provide you with his marriage certificate, but this a fact as well.

So, we are now looking forward that our article is going to be accepted and to be published.

Best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.24.53.33 (talk) 18:34, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi, we now saw that you again requested these citations:

to requested Citation 1: Regarding his stage debut at age ten, there is no published or written source about that. There is just one picture of it and we dont have access to it. That was 1987! We know it from his office. How can we give you a citations for that?

to requested citation 2: regarding the music exposure in different countries: Again, we can not provide you with the different broadcasters media plans for their On-Air performances. This is not public info, but reliable info from his office due to his various international clients.

to requested citation 3: Marriage and residence: How can we provide you with sources about that? We don't have them of course. We don't have his marriage certificate and residence card and why is this needed to be cited? How can you cite that somebody is married? Sometimes people marry totally private and unknown. But we know for sure that he is married and that he lives in London. Thats a fact. We found an entry in the residence registry of London, but we can not cite this and give out his private address to make it public due to privacy law.

So, we kindly ask you to take this for a word and and accept our article now.

Best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.24.53.33 (talk) 09:29, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi again, ok we dropped the statements and corrected the article. We hope its fine now.

The citation request for the sponsorship topic is already included and cited in citation Nr.6, which was published independly in a renowned professional magazine for advertising and marketing so that should be fine now as well.

We are now finally looking forward to your approval.

Best — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.24.53.33 (talk) 14:14, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for all your hard work.  If your article would have been accepted immediately, it could have been deleted the next day, then it would be even harder.  Now that is not likely to happen.  Thanks again.  :- ) DCS 23:50, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Rude Kid

I recently wrote an article for Musician and Producer Rude Kid who is only recently becoming known. The text I used for the article was text that appears on his official facebook fan page, and seems to be the only accessible text available at present. As he is a relatively new name, there isnt too much information on him and I am struggling to find references to include. There are a few at the included links but not much else. Are there ways of still being able to publish this article on Misplaced Pages without having much available for referencing?

http://www.last.fm/music/Rude+Kid

http://sharemyplaylists.com/artists/Rude+Kid — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddy Mac (talk • contribs) 10:53, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm really sorry, but articles require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. This is extremely important, especially for biographies of living people (what we call WP:BLPs). Because of previous incidents, which you've probably heard of, we have to take these very seriously, and good sources are an absolute must. Nolelover 16:32, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/GOCHA PASIESHVILI World Champion in Kickboxing

how can I upload photos and videos — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatyanatsapi (talk • contribs) 12:22, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't know if you can upload videos at all (and almost certainly not the videos you're probably thinking of) but pictures are much easier. First of all, if you're trying to upload a picture of Pasieshvili it must be either a free picture (licensing-wise) or one that you took yourself. Is that the case? Nolelover 16:38, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/K.G.SAMINATHAN (KGS) – DMK LEADER

More evident why it is published, He is the grand son of K.K.Govindasamy, brother of K.K.Neelamaham, a well known D.K leader, freind of thandhai periyar Ramasamy.

Mr.K.G.Saminathan's political life history was written by Mr.K.Veeramani (D.K.Leader) on his book oliyum oliyum.

I have a soft copy in tamil language, please advise how I can send for your review — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jilba2011 (talk • contribs) 14:19, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

It's alright...you don't have to send it to us. However, you do need to provide reliable sources (like the book) in your submission, and right now you don't have any. Nolelover 16:44, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

This link should help explain how to add the information to your article:  WP:REFBEGIN  :- ) DCS 21:23, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Juduculla Rock

I made all the suggestions from the reviewer. I also went to the talk page to get feedback and I made those changes. I have tried resubmitting the article for review, and it has not been re-reviewed. What am I doing wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janus57 (talk • contribs) 14:39, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Maybe nothing.  I am looking into this for you.  :- ) DCS 15:32, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

There was a technical problem with your submission.  It has been fixed, and your article is >here<.  :- ) DCS 23:55, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

 Done

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Foraminoplasty

I am a busy spine surgeon I am finding this system so antiquated. I edited much of what I had entered on the site under foraminoplasty yet my amendments have been ignored The system says enter 4 ~ to save the edits yet I entered these and the amendments have been ignored Then you dare to say that my preparations will be removed if |I do not update within a week Do you really want world leaders to submit on your site and why do you not make it easier to submit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missurgeon (talk • contribs) 20:23, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand what you had a problem with. Are you saying that you attempted to edit your submission and it didn't save? Putting four tildes ("`") automatically places your signature there...its an easy way to tell who said what. Now, you may be a surgeon, but you still can't copy other's work. Nolelover 20:38, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Also, if what you mean is that the content on the linked site is written by you, consider submitting an open ticket response system ticket. Also see WP:Donating copyrighted materials. A412 (Talk • C) 21:13, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I have made many changes to my first deposition but can not seem to save my changes Really annoyed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missurgeon (talk • contribs) 21:34, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Now I wonder if you will see this response: Thank you so much for trying to help me I am not copying anybodies work but my own So to save my amendments I should insert Missurgeon (talk) 21:44, 20 February 2012 (UTC) my name 21:44, 20 February 2012 (UTC) but where do I put it? How do I stop the page being dumped because I have not had time to go over it again within a week? It seems a pity that all this work should be for nought Why do you not have a SAVE button on the page like other software? There is an entree paragraph which I want to improve upon but there is no edit button for this so how do amend this section?

Okay so-

1. No, you do not to sign ~~~~ on articles to save. However, at the bottom of the page there is a "Save page" button to save contributions.
2. It will not be deleted after a week. Misplaced Pages has no deadline.
3. There is a save button. Below the edit box.
4. The problem is, most of the article is currently copied from here. If this is yours, please read and follow WP:Donating copyrighted materials. If it is, it can be restored. If it is not, it is probably better to start over. A412 (Talk • C) 22:05, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

To clarify, four tildes puts your signature (which for me is a red "Nolelover", a yellow "talk" and "contribs" and a datestamp). It doesn't affect whether the page saves at all. Your submission won't be deleted - the message is a bit confusing and I'm working with another editor right now to fix it. Nolelover 22:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Sam Hanna Bell

I am sad and frustrated because yet another Misplaced Pages reviewer appears to believe Sam Hanna Bell is not noteworthy even though I've provided referenced evidence from reliable published third parties that a 'blue plaque' was erected at the house where he wrote his masterpiece, they guy was awarded an MBE by the British govt and his work has received multiple plaudits and been made into a film. For goodness' sake.

I've put valuable time into trying to improve Misplaced Pages by seeing this gap and drafting this article but now I am nearly ready to drop it. It would be wasting everybody's time to keep robotically resubmitting this in hope of finding an intelligent reviewer. Is there no appeals process? Please help. Marcos182 (talk) 21:24, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Accepted :) Nolelover 21:42, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

February 21

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/19 Grams Design Studio

Some of my references which are duplicates cited via the ref name tag are showing as duplicate references in my ref list (i.e. reference 2 & 10, which should be the same). I'm sure it's just a minor error in my coding but I can't see where.

I fixed the problem (you can see my work here). What had happened is that you had put in a name parameter, which isn't recognized by the system. I changed those to the ref name system which you had tried to use. Leave a note if there's anything else we can do for you :) Nolelover 14:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Bacardi 3 ltr bottle label.

Hi my name is Mr Robert Brent,l have a 3 ltr Bacardi bottle,it is over 30 years old,and l have it hanging on my home bar,it still has the old label on it,and l need a modern label to replace it as my old one is heavily stained,and it looks awfull,please can you send me the new labels for a 3 ltr bottle please,l dont mind paying for this please.

THANKYOU Robert Brent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.236.69 (talk) 12:44, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, you're in the wrong place...perhaps Bacardi's website? Nolelover 13:51, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

info on Agata Tuszynska

I just wonder if my explanation was sufficient and I can expect the article to be posted any time soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biuroat (talk • contribs) 14:16, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Your submission was declined because of a lack of reliable, independent sources, which all articles must have. Please add those and resubmit. Nolelover 14:52, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Euclidean random matrix

Hi, The above article was rejected by a reviewer without any comment whatsoever. I am asked to improve it but no hint in which respect... Could you help? Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergey69 (talk • contribs) 14:25, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about that. A newer editor declined it, and I have undone his decline. Nolelover 14:49, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I accepted the submission. ;-) mabdul 16:10, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Family

Whos Samuel De Champlains family — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.237.235.182 (talk) 17:23, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

You should ask at the reference desk, although you could probably start at Samuel De Champlain. Nolelover 17:34, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

2 things

Ok. I made an account, but the word barf was in my name (BarferBoy), and they blocked it, so I made another. Is there a way to either unblock that or delete it? Also I submitted an article, but don't have much on it. Is there a way to submit it for other people to edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by T11ld3000 (talk • contribs) 17:33, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

There's nothing you can do to your old account, but don't worry, it won't affect you any. I think you're talking about Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Creeper (Minecraft), right? Great game, isn't it? Unfortunately, Misplaced Pages can't have an article on creepers because there aren't any reliable sources about it. However, if you do like writing about Minecraft you can always go to the Minecraft Wiki. Nolelover 17:43, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/The Others ( '60s R&B band)

Short of a signed affidavit from God I have no idea what you might consider reliable and notable sources: they are all there, quoted. We may sue the other band instead, for infringement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.193.210.72 (talk) 18:14, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually, the article looks okay- let me format and accept it. A412 (Talk • C) 23:34, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

February 22

Review of Misplaced Pages:Articles for creation/Blood Ceremony (band)

Hello, My article for the band Blood Ceremony has been rejected twice because I've failed to establish their notability, but I believe I have shown that the band meets at least three of Misplaced Pages's notability criteria:

1.Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries except for the following: Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising. Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories. Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar) would generally be considered trivial but should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

- I have provided at least two articles from online publications that are independent and reliable (The Quietist and The Torontoist).

5.Has released two or more albums on a major label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are notable).

- The band has released two albums on Metal Blade Records, one of the premiere labels in heavy metal for the past 25-30 years.

7.Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Misplaced Pages standards, including verifiability.

- The Torontoist calls the band "Toronto's most original band"

In addition to these, I have shown that the band has toured extensively with two of the most influential bands in the subgenre of doom metal (Electric Wizard and Ghost), and has been reviewed and interviewed on reputable online magazines.

Please help me understand what I need to do to get the article to pass Misplaced Pages's requirements. Thank you.

rshowler — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rshowler (talk • contribs) 03:17, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I think the article is good now, and passes WP:NMUSIC. --Bmusician 04:02, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

After filling in the references using Reflinks, I have moved the article into article space. Thank you for your contributions to Misplaced Pages! --Bmusician 04:06, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Richard Ramirez

COULD YOU TELL ME WHY RICHARD RAMIREZ IS STILL ON DEATH ROW? HE EXHAUSTED HIS APPEALS IN 2006. WHAT IS THE HOLD UP? NO WONDER WE HAVE OVER POPULATED PRISONS. THEY KEEP THEM ALIVE AND WE AS TAX PAYERS PAY TO KEEP THEM THAT WAY. DISGUSTING!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.49.76.195 (talk) 03:20, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Try asking at the reference desk instead. This help desk is for articles for creation. A412 (Talk • C) 03:47, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/ kannadada kotyadhipati

please help to develop this page regards anaamikamathu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anaamikamathu (talk • contribs) 07:48, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

You have submitted the article for review. A member should review it shortly. Regards, Bmusician 09:00, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Note

There is a huge backlog at AfC. I'm just leaving a note here so the backlog can be cleared faster. --Bmusician 13:10, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

You should probably put this at the talk page instead. :) A412 (Talk • C) 15:29, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

If we could clear AfC with a note, I would do it everyday. :- ) DCS 18:11, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/The Wynne Theater

Where can I find reliable resources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Articles14 (talk • contribs) 18:43, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

You should find the information you need here > WP:SOURCES.  :- ) DCS 20:59, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Rocky Bivens

My article has not been approved... please can you tell me which section needs to be edited. Thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliahuiemartin (talk • contribs) 21:51, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Right now, there are no sources at all in your submission. Please add reliable, independent sources and resubmit. Nolelover 22:03, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Oliver (band)

Someone has recently deleted a photo (Oliver_Publicity_Photo_2012a) that my company owns the copyright to. Please let me know what I need to do in order to have this photo added back to the Wiki Commons, and what I need to do in the future to avoid being incorrectly flagged

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpoindex (talk • contribs) 22:05, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jpoindex,

Could you please look at this page >here<  It has everything you need to know and is too much to talk about here.  Thanks.  :- ) DCS 00:47, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Lester Howe

the reviewer of my article will not let me publish my article online. Even though i have writing and references? Do you know why my article won't be published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shenstudent000035798 (talk • contribs) 00:03, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

What Nolelover said above:  :Articles require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.  Your sources are the subject.  :- ) DCS 00:14, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

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3. entertainment.oneindia.in/kannada/news/2012/komal-pyarege-agbittaite-goes-viral-020212.html
4. www.desihits.com/news/view/does-kolaveri-di-have-some-new-competition-20120202
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