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Mr. Freeze in reverse

The rumor mills for both Six Flags Over Texas and Six Flags St. Louis have been running overtime lately with suggestions that Mr. Freeze will run backwards in the very near future. As of yet, no reliable proof has emerged. Videos have been presented, but with no way to determine their authenticity. They could conceivably be fan-made, for all we know. As such, we should hold off on this until such time as official word, through local press in Dallas/Ft. Worth and St. Louis, is given. --McDoobAU93 22:12, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Now that the modification has been made, we have another question ... is this permanent or just for this season? We need to discuss moving the article first before actually moving it. If it's permanent, then so be it. If it's just for 2012, then this should be a subhead under the main article. So, in order to move it, please request the move and discuss it, then build consensus, which may well be for it to move. Per WP:MOVE, this isn't that cut and dried. --McDoobAU93 16:10, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

This is permanent just like the Superman: Escape from Krypton and New Texas Giant coasters. Even if people just search for Mr. Freeze roller coaster it will just redirect them to the new article with the new name of the ride. So I agree to the change! If it ever changes you just have to redirect back, but I promise you it won't happen! --Jpp858 (talk) 20:28, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

How can you be so certain? Many roller coasters have been run in reverse temporarily, including The Great American Scream Machine, Racer and others. Like I said, just propose the move here and follow normal channels, build consensus, then move. The redirect will work just fine for now, especially since there is no rush. --McDoobAU93 20:34, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Well how were we certain on Superman, they can just make the ride go forward again But in my opinion, I think if their is going to be a ride page for the coaster it should be with the right title header with it.--Jpp858 (talk) 20:49, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Then propose the move and see where consensus falls. Again, there is no rush. As a pledge of good faith, I will only offer comments and will not register a vote either way. I see reasons on both sides and will support whatever consensus decides. But, when the move does occur, do not just copy the text from one to the other. Please read WP:MOVE for how to properly move an article; simply cutting and pasting creates a lot of problems, since now there are two separate edit histories, one for each name. If the move is supported, I'll help get everything back in order with a proper move. --McDoobAU93 20:53, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

There is nothing to suggest whether this will be permanent or just temporary. With the example of Superman: Escape from Krypton, the ride featured new trains which featured a new harness system specifically for being launched in reverse (OTSR instead of lap bars, same as Tower of Terror II). Texas Giant had its whole ride retracked. In the cases of Great American Scream Machine and Racer were the rides renamed when trains ran in reverse? If they weren't I'm probably leaning towards moving this page (even if there is the chance that it would be moved back following this season). Themeparkgc  Talk  23:39, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

GASM and Racer runs backwards with no name change. Even Colossus runs backwards during Fright Fest with no name change. All I am saying is that, why would Six Flags would put some much effort in marketing and giving Mr. Freeze a new name with the ride just operating in reverse just for the 2012 season?--Jpp858 (talk) 00:21, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Based upon the information currently available, I have requested that this page be moved. Please comment in the section below. Themeparkgc  Talk  01:50, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:37, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Mr. Freeze (roller coaster) → Mr. Freeze: Reverse Blast – Yesterday it was announced and widely reported that the ride would be renamed to Mr. Freeze: Reverse Blast. There was a concern in the above section by another editor about the possibility of this retheme being only temporary. To the best of the information available at this time, the reliable sources do not make this suggestion and thus there is nothing to verify this possibility. As Mr. Freeze: Reverse Blast will be the new name for the ride I suggest the article be moved accordingly. Themeparkgc  Talk  01:49, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

• Comment As I noted above, I won't be registering an opinion or a !vote on this request. There is past evidence to suggest that this could be a temporary move; there is also past evidence to say that it could be permanent. Unfortunately, reliable sources do not say either way. If the move does take place, please make sure that WP:MOVE is followed; the previous good-faith attempt created two separate edit histories. --McDoobAU93 03:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose – Let's wait until reliable secondary sources adopt the new name; after that, we can. Seriously, we're rewriting the article based on nothing but yesterday's press release? I don't think so. Dicklyon (talk) 05:12, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment - reliable sources from the Google News search linked in my nomination such as these (, and ) do use the new name they just aren't linked in the article yet. Themeparkgc  Talk  05:33, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
• oppose per Dicklyon, especially since Mr Freeze is still in the name. Not so much a name change as adding an extra bit which might not become commonly used. Callmederek (talk) 18:17, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

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