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| ::::So what you put forth is that when WNEM had secondary affiliate under the analog broadcast era that there should have been articles: WNEM-CBS, WNEM-UPN, WNEM-WB? No, you just indicate they affiliations and wikilink to those articles. For a grocery store chain doesn't have other articles on each product they have (ie. A&P Coca Cola, A&P hot dogs, etc.). A Car dealership is a single entity no matter how many car brands they sell. For example, ABC Auto Mall, that sells Chevrolets, Fords, Buick and Toyota does not have articles: ABC Auto Mall-Chevrolet, ABC Auto Mall-Ford and ABC Auto Mall-Toyota. Some time subsidaries have enough notability to stand on their own like Chevrolet, Buick, MyNetworkTV. It is meaningless to bring up the ownership of MyNetworkTV, Fox and CBS. WNEM is one licensed entity they not sold WNEM-DT2 to any one else. WNEM-DT2 is not a subsidary of WNEM; it is a part of WNEM like the news programming is not consider fully seperate from the entertainment programming of the station to warrant a seperate article. ] (]) 14:45, 24 April 2012 (UTC) | ::::So what you put forth is that when WNEM had secondary affiliate under the analog broadcast era that there should have been articles: WNEM-CBS, WNEM-UPN, WNEM-WB? No, you just indicate they affiliations and wikilink to those articles. For a grocery store chain doesn't have other articles on each product they have (ie. A&P Coca Cola, A&P hot dogs, etc.). A Car dealership is a single entity no matter how many car brands they sell. For example, ABC Auto Mall, that sells Chevrolets, Fords, Buick and Toyota does not have articles: ABC Auto Mall-Chevrolet, ABC Auto Mall-Ford and ABC Auto Mall-Toyota. Some time subsidaries have enough notability to stand on their own like Chevrolet, Buick, MyNetworkTV. It is meaningless to bring up the ownership of MyNetworkTV, Fox and CBS. WNEM is one licensed entity they not sold WNEM-DT2 to any one else. WNEM-DT2 is not a subsidary of WNEM; it is a part of WNEM like the news programming is not consider fully seperate from the entertainment programming of the station to warrant a seperate article. ] (]) 14:45, 24 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
| :Well then why does ] have its own article then, it's just a subchannel of ]? Why does ] have its own article, it's just a spinoff of ]? Shouldn't all of the ] and ] affiliates be in one huge article too, they're all owned by the same company? What about the ], the ]'s, and ]'s, ]'s, the other ]/]'s, or any other media conglomerates? Under your reasoning, any channel whose owner is the same should be one giant article. Don't you see how ridiculous that is? ] (]) 20:20, 24 April 2012 (UTC) | :Well then why does ] have its own article then, it's just a subchannel of ]? Why does ] have its own article, it's just a spinoff of ]? Shouldn't all of the ] and ] affiliates be in one huge article too, they're all owned by the same company? What about the ], the ]'s, and ]'s, ]'s, the other ]/]'s, or any other media conglomerates? Under your reasoning, any channel whose owner is the same should be one giant article. Don't you see how ridiculous that is? ] (]) 20:20, 24 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
| '''Strong and Speedy Oppose:''' - Technically it is in the right place. ] is a CBS affiliate, while ] (it's actual callsign) is a ] affiliate. They are two seperate stations, but operating on the same station via ]. This is the MOS and WP:TVS way of doing things. So, they '''should not be merged'''. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 21:06, 24 April 2012 (UTC)</small> | |||
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Nomination for deletion and merge with WNEM-TV
This article should be deleted and its information added as a subcatagory to the WNEM-TV page. This is not a seperate entity from WNEM-TV and the subject does not posses any relevance to merit its own seperate page. It has the same physical address, broadcasts at the same frequency, the same owner and has the same personnel as WNEM-TV. This is not like WNEM AM which is a different medium, broadcasting on a diffrent frequency with its own seperate license and history. This article is also written without a single citation, unverifiable and contains non-encyclopedic language. -Wxyzdan
- Make up your mind, do you want to delete it or do you want to merge it? TomCat4680 (talk) 01:55, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
As said above...
This article should be deleted and its information added as a subcatagory to the WNEM-TV page.
Its the same entity not something seperate. The reason for deletion should fall under the Misplaced Pages guideline as a redundant or useless templet. Nearly all of the information on this page is redundent to the WNEM-TV page. The text about WNEM's programming on 5.2 and its cable coverage should be included on the WNEM-TV article. This article also does not site any sources to its information.
- Sounds more like a merger proposal to me, as the information in this article will still exist, just as a section of WNEM-TV instead of its own page. Deleting it means it would no longer exist anywhere. Anyways, I Oppose the move. They're not the same station, they're virtually 2 separate TV stations. TV 5 doesn't air MyNetworkTV shows and My 5 doesn't air CBS shows. TomCat4680 (talk) 04:50, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Support This is dumb, this is the same TV station. None of the other stations on here have seperate pages for there subchannels. This should be deleted. There'd be tons of extra articles out there if we had one for every subchannel. 70.8.99.167 (talk) 04:33, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose They're 2 different entities of WNEM its like merging the chevrolet page into the general motors page!Aikidockd--(talk) 20:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- support per WP:BROADCAST subcarrier standard which the subchannel is. Aikidockd, it is more like a car dealer that sells Chevrolet and Buick/GMCs. Spshu (talk) 14:02, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
- No it's not, I agree with Aikidockd. Chevrolet is a subsidiary of GM, just like Buick and GMC are; all 4 companies have their own articles. CBS and MyNetworkTV are unrelated and unaffiliated. MyNetworkTV is owned by Fox, CBS isn't. TomCat4680 (talk) 22:06, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
- So what you put forth is that when WNEM had secondary affiliate under the analog broadcast era that there should have been articles: WNEM-CBS, WNEM-UPN, WNEM-WB? No, you just indicate they affiliations and wikilink to those articles. For a grocery store chain doesn't have other articles on each product they have (ie. A&P Coca Cola, A&P hot dogs, etc.). A Car dealership is a single entity no matter how many car brands they sell. For example, ABC Auto Mall, that sells Chevrolets, Fords, Buick and Toyota does not have articles: ABC Auto Mall-Chevrolet, ABC Auto Mall-Ford and ABC Auto Mall-Toyota. Some time subsidaries have enough notability to stand on their own like Chevrolet, Buick, MyNetworkTV. It is meaningless to bring up the ownership of MyNetworkTV, Fox and CBS. WNEM is one licensed entity they not sold WNEM-DT2 to any one else. WNEM-DT2 is not a subsidary of WNEM; it is a part of WNEM like the news programming is not consider fully seperate from the entertainment programming of the station to warrant a seperate article. Spshu (talk) 14:45, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
- No it's not, I agree with Aikidockd. Chevrolet is a subsidiary of GM, just like Buick and GMC are; all 4 companies have their own articles. CBS and MyNetworkTV are unrelated and unaffiliated. MyNetworkTV is owned by Fox, CBS isn't. TomCat4680 (talk) 22:06, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
- support per WP:BROADCAST subcarrier standard which the subchannel is. Aikidockd, it is more like a car dealer that sells Chevrolet and Buick/GMCs. Spshu (talk) 14:02, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well then why does NBC New York Nonstop have its own article then, it's just a subchannel of WNBC? Why does HLN have its own article, it's just a spinoff of CNN? Shouldn't all of the Fox Sports Net and Comcast SportsNet affiliates be in one huge article too, they're all owned by the same company? What about the Discovery Networks, the ESPN's, and Disney Channel's, Viacom's, the other Turner Broadcasting/Time Warner's, or any other media conglomerates? Under your reasoning, any channel whose owner is the same should be one giant article. Don't you see how ridiculous that is? TomCat4680 (talk) 20:20, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Strong and Speedy Oppose: - Technically it is in the right place. WNEM-TV is a CBS affiliate, while WNEM-DT2 (it's actual callsign) is a MyNetworkTV affiliate. They are two seperate stations, but operating on the same station via digital subchannels. This is the MOS and WP:TVS way of doing things. So, they should not be merged. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 21:06, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
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