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Hello to all fellow Wikipedians. Be assured I'll be as courteous as possible & I'm looking forward to meeting you. GoodDay 22:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC).

You may be wondering why my archives only start at August 2007. The reason: I didn't archive my pages before that date, I merely deleted them (as I didn't know how to archive). Therefore, if anyone wishes to see material before August 2007? check out this talkpage's 'history'.

I've a secondary userpage called User:GoodDay/My stuff.

My Mentors

Danbarnesdavies & Steven Zhang. These gentlemen, will help me tweak my behaviour/conduct on Misplaced Pages; particularly in the areas of British & Irish politics.

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Dispute resolution survey

Dispute Resolution – Survey Invite Hello GoodDay. I am currently conducting a study on the dispute resolution processes on the English Misplaced Pages, in the hope that the results will help improve these processes in the future. Whether you have used dispute resolution a little or a lot, now we need to know about your experience. The survey takes around five minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist in analyzing the results of the survey. No personally identifiable information will be released. Please click HERE to participate. Many thanks in advance for your comments and thoughts. You are receiving this invitation because you have had some activity in dispute resolution over the past year. For more information, please see the associated research page. Steven Zhang 11:20, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I'll have to pass, Steven. Farm work, is giving me little time or energy, these days. GoodDay (talk) 19:56, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

"Stubborn editors"

It is rather interesting, and somewhat amusing, to note that you complained at WP:Baseball about "STUBBORN editors with personal preferences", then proceed to add nothing to the discussion by stubbornly repeating your personal preference over and over again even though most others are moving on to other aspects of the discussion. Please, just stop trying to create drama for no purpose. This is the exact behaviour that led to your being hauled before ANI and RFC. Resolute 23:35, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Your response confirms my observation. Now stop pushing WP:CANADA, accept that the Expos are now the Nationals & support the merging of the articles. GoodDay (talk) 23:39, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Banda

We shold just warn him, and if he continues report him. Seems hes quite clearly against consensus.Lihaas (talk) 10:44, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Agreed, as he's becoming disruptive. GoodDay (talk) 13:29, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Another Banda thought

I have placed this on the Joyce Banda talk page, but thought it might be useful here as well. Let's discuss it further on the Banda talk page. This is just FYI.

• @GoodDay, look over other infoboxes and see if the infobox ever includes an ordinal number before the office. I have done a quick search and have not found any yet. If there are no other heads of state who have such a number included in the infobox office, then it seems more in keeping with Misplaced Pages's practice not to include the ordinal number. Any thoughts?

• Look these over: http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Current_national_leaders drs (talk) 14:45, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Some have them, some don't. The most prominant to have them, are the American Presidents, Canadian Prime Ministers, Australian Prime Ministers, New Zealand Prime Ministers, Russian Presidents (to name a few). Monarchs aren't numbered. GoodDay (talk) 19:45, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

AN/I

This is to notify you that, though you have not been named, a matter to which you are related has been raised at WP:ANI. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 15:53, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Civility

Calling someone a "... monarchist POV-pusher," as you did here seems contrary to WP:CIV. Would you please strike out, or remove this comment? Sunray (talk) 05:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

I've complied, but my concerns are growing about the Canadian monarchist PoV pushing. GoodDay (talk) 05:19, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Cool. POV pushing is always annoying. The only course, IMO is to refer them to WP:WEIGHT and WP:VER. Sunray (talk) 15:30, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Fame

You're in with the In-Crowd baby! I just saw a blog where you were being discussed. Remember what Andy Warhol predicted?!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:22, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Was I given a bad review? GoodDay (talk) 17:23, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

No. A group of people were discussing the British Isles dispute here and you were brought up as being a Canadian Republican who'd joined the fray.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:27, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Betcha they were surprised that I supported the article's title. GoodDay (talk) 17:28, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

They were, actually.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:21, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Hahaha, it shows that I'm a NPoV editor. Thus my ban from British & Irish articles. GoodDay (talk) 18:28, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Oi, mate.

Don't feed the trolls, yeah? Good man. ✝DBD 20:56, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I read ya ;) GoodDay (talk) 20:57, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Indeed. Behave :-) Steven Zhang 23:34, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Blocked

...and Djsasso gets away with it? GoodDay (talk) 20:36, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

• - GD - dude - you are letting them get to ya - your a good faith npov contributor in a very biased environment - you are not going to change that bias on this project now - have you considered working outside en[REDACTED] to raise reader/public awareness of the en[REDACTED] content bias ( they won't be able to report and get you blocked) - you will have more effect and enjoy it more - Youreallycan 20:50, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Right now, I'm annoyed with my mentor 'suddenly' expanding my topic-ban to include diacritics. GoodDay (talk) 20:55, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

You haven't been blocked for violating any topic ban, you've been blocked for editing disruptively. Disruptive editing is completely separate from a topic ban. You have been blocked because even after I advised you not to do something (that is, for the sole reason that someone else is doing the opposite), you have continued to do so, with the mentality that "they're doing it, so why can't I?". Two wrongs don't make a right - and you need to realise that. Opening a neutrally worded RFC on the use of diacritics would have been the way to go here - not warring over it's use in articles. I think you need to stop pointing the finger at others and consider your own actions first. Steven Zhang 21:14, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

The edits I made were not disruptive. They weren't before the GD-Dj agreement & they're not after the breaching of that agreement. GoodDay (talk) 21:16, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

You changed diacritics in three articles, solely because someone else was adding them. That's disruptive. Steven Zhang 21:22, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

FWIW, GoodDay has traditionally made such edits, and they are in line with the diacritics compromise we've operated with for the past few years. I don't consider the edits disruptive in and of themselves, though obviously the "tit for tat" attitude was probloematic. I think if GoodDay sees that himself, reducing the block to time served would be fair. Resolute 02:26, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

My changes to those articles 'today' were out of frustration over Dj's breaking a promise & so I'll agree the timing stank. But, now that the dios promise has been breached, I'm free to make such corrections on North American based hockey articles in future. We must'n let the block become a green light for editors to add dios to North American hockey articles, with editors who would delete/hide such dios, being in fear of a block. GoodDay (talk) 02:32, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

With respect GoodDay, you weren't blocked for hiding the diacritics on those articles, but for proclaiming your actions to be part of a righteous crusade against an opponent. If you had just quietly 'corrected' the NA-based articles as you have in the past, nobody would have lifted an eyebrow. Resolute 03:06, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

That's true. More worringly, I noticed somebody has reversed me at one of the articles. GoodDay (talk) 03:14, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm not quite clear what articles were edited that caused such consternation. I see a move of a Czech hockey club, but that's it. isaacl (talk) 04:13, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

About a 2-3 months ago, myself & Djsasso (as part of avoiding each other) agreed not to fiddle around with diacritics. Djsasso breached that agreement by moving articles to diacritic names. He should've gotten somebody else to do those moves. GoodDay (talk) 04:19, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

So your only concern was the Czech hockey club article? isaacl (talk) 04:27, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

My concern is that Djsasso breached his promise. If I'd known he had no intention of keeping that promise? I never would've stopped hiding diacritics on North American hockey articles. GoodDay (talk) 04:28, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

I promised I wouldn't add diacritics where they weren't before. What I did was revert a move back to the full name of a club which was moved without discussion. I did not simply add diacritics to a word which was what I promised I would not do. I broke no promise. If you want to continue warring go for it but I am sure you see now what that gets you. Just to make it absolutely clear. The move had nothing to do with the diacritics in the name but that it was missing two whole words in the name. I also did not promise I wouldn't use them where appropriate. All I promised was that I would not edit/move articles to include them on words that did not already have them. In this case I clearly did not simply just add diacritics to words that were already there. -DJSasso (talk) 11:58, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Since the agreement at Steven's talkpage (months ago), I hadn't reverted/hid diacritics that were added to North American based hockey articles 'nor' reversed any unilateral non-dios to dios page moves. I had expected the same restraint from Djsasso, concerning Non-North American based hockey articles. GoodDay (talk) 13:16, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

And I haven't done any. Again I did not move any pages from a non-dios version to a dios version. I added completely new words. I did not move for example "Noel" to "Nöel" which is what I promised I would not do. So you did get the same restraint. I never promised I wouldn't use diacritics in my editing. That would be completely counter to my beliefs and would be the equivalent of expecting you to use them all the time when appropriate, that was never agreed to by either of us. I just said I wouldn't change words that were already without them to have them. -DJSasso (talk) 13:33, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Djsaso has added diacritized letters, in moving a Non-North American page. I'd expected that he wouldn't do that. GoodDay (talk) 13:37, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Point is; after my 60hrs block has expired, along with putting the active NHL player infoboxes' former teams into chronological order, I'll be returning to making sure diacritics are hidden on North American based hockey articles. PS: I will continue avoiding interacting with Djsasso. GoodDay (talk) 13:41, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

So what you are saying then is you are going to continue to do what got you blocked for 60 hours? I would then like to ask the blocking admin to extend the block please. -DJSasso (talk) 13:57, 3 May 2012 (UTC)